Graal Kingdoms Economy

[DustyPorViva]

You seem to be the one having a hissy fit here because people don't agree with you.

[scriptless]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

You seem to be the one having a hissy fit here because people don't agree with you.

I argue because you guys do not understand what I am talking about. You sire need to read the posts because I argued both sides. Like I said come back when you have reasonable intelligence to argue. End of discussion.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by scriptless

I argue because you guys do not understand what I am talking about. You sire need to read the posts because I argued both sides. Like I said come back when you have reasonable intelligence to argue. End of discussion.

No; you argue. I counter-argue. You insult. I counter-argue again. You whine. I still counter-argue and you resort back to insults. Just because I don't agree with you don't mean I don't understand.

All your posts seem to be are the ramblings of someone with an ulterior motive.

[Drakeero]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

No; you argue. I counter-argue. You insult. I counter-argue again. You whine. I still counter-argue and you resort back to insults. Just because I don't agree with you don't mean I don't understand.

All your posts seem to be are the ramblings of someone with an ulterior motive. You never once stated in the original post that you had a permabanned account with rare items on it. This whole idea is just a way to try to reclaim all of your banned items. And given that you were banned by Stefan and your attitude in this thread, I don't think it'd be a far-fetched assumption to say that your ban was well-deserved.

A good EM would make sure that his items don't "accidentally slip" back to him. If he wants to try to buy them back from other players after they win them, why not? He's earning them back legitimately by buying them from other players.

I for one volunteer to event them off because I'm not exactly going to raffle these away. I'd rather make people work for them.

[Tigairius]

If I have to edit another post in this thread regarding the discussion of bans I will close the thread. Just try to stick to the rules.

[Tigairius]

Hypothetical: There is a corrupt GP on GK. They are poor. They don't really like some of the richer people. Wouldn't this give them more incentive to ban those richer people at the first chance they get so that they might have a chance at their items?

Bans, especially permanent ones, need to be decided as fairly as possible.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Hypothetical: There is a corrupt GP on GK. They are poor. They don't really like some of the richer people. Wouldn't this give them more incentive to ban those richer people at the first chance they get so that they might have a chance at their items?

But that raises a good point.

This overall stems back to the availability of items. Because even low-mid-level gear is un-craftable/obtainable the server is reliant on events or seasonal events for these items. When very rich players are banned or quit their items, usually useful rares, disappear. This could be solved if items were eventted more or if gk had the infrastructure needed to keep items in steady flow.

[StormYs]

I see no point in this, your idea is to take the rare items off ppl that were perma banned, ok.
So what you say is that duo to the fact of having more rares in game this would balance this economy? I disagree, as said above me, items should become easier available for everyone.

Imagine, what if someone would quit that had obtained such a rare item? This would reduce the circulation of items again making it harder and harder to obtainr are items as ppl quit, so this method would only (and only by little) effect the economy on short term, but in the long term it would have no effect.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by StormYs

I see no point in this, your idea is to take the rare items off ppl that were perma banned, ok.
So what you say is that duo to the fact of having more rares in game this would balance this economy? I disagree, as said above me, items should become easier available for everyone.

Imagine, what if someone would quit that had obtained such a rare item? This would reduce the circulation of items again making it harder and harder to obtainr are items as ppl quit, so this method would only (and only by little) effect the economy on short term, but in the long term it would have no effect.

It can be argued that GK requires a short-term sollution as there are no signs of any long-term solutions being implimented, what with Q4 being abandoned and development being top secret.

[StormYs]

As I said even on short terms this method would not suffice enough.
The reason for this is because there are a lot of rich people that still play gk, so if a new gk player obtains such a rare item what would happen? The rich will buy it off the new guys and so hoard the items.
Same thing happened yesterday or so, I logged onto GK today and heard "Tig evented some shields yesterday, some new guy won a forest shield but he sold it for crappy items".

Thus this method wouldn't have that much of a effect on the economy.

Edit: I am not saying that I disapprove of this idea but it's just that it wouldn't have a significant impact on the current economy.

[MajinDragon]

He didn't sell the forest shield. Only shields sold were Frost Shield and Tower shield. They were bought by Morgan who underpaid on the tower. So i guess that backs your point up. But, a noob winning a rare item would benefit more from selling it and spreading his new wealth over several items than a singular valuable. The problem comes when the rich underpay noobs.

[Jcs1919]

They got banned for something...

[StormYs]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

He didn't sell the forest shield. Only shields sold were Frost Shield and Tower shield. They were bought by Morgan who underpaid on the tower. So i guess that backs your point up. But, a noob winning a rare item would benefit more from selling it and spreading his new wealth over several items than a singular valuable. The problem comes when the rich underpay noobs.

Which will often happen, duo to the fact of new ppl being often not very knowledgeable about the values of item.

[BigBear3]

Sure. Event them off. Why not?

I'm sure you trust your GPs.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by StormYs

Which will often happen, duo to the fact of new ppl being often not very knowledgeable about the values of item.

Yea, we're all so corrupt