New Graal Website - Page 3

Rufus · #1 10-21-2009, 11:27 PM

So.. does anyone want to make it?

Crimson2005 · #2 10-21-2009, 11:31 PM

I'm trying to pay attention, I don't get what you're trying to say. Explain it better for **** sake. I thought I was making a valid point.

Darlene159 · #3 10-21-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005

I'm trying to pay attention, I don't get what you're trying to say. Explain it better for **** sake. I thought I was making a valid point.

Seriously....
If someone wants to make one, it will get made, if not, it will get made when the administration makes it.

Hiro · #4 10-21-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson2005

I'm trying to pay attention, I don't get what you're trying to say. Explain it better for **** sake. I thought I was making a valid point.

not in their opinion

Draenin · #5 10-21-2009, 11:33 PM

I didn't even know this was going on. I'll let ya know if I come up with anything. I'm not too savvy with SQL or web 2.0 stuff, but if you just need a template, I can give it a shot.

Rufus · #6 10-21-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

I didn't even know this was going on. I'll let ya know if I come up with anything. I'm not too savvy with SQL or web 2.0 stuff, but if you just need a template, I can give it a shot.

Looking forward to seeing it. I don't think they'll anything other than a design though, I assume they've got a lot of stuff that can't be integrated by just any old person.

Imperialistic · #7 10-21-2009, 11:34 PM

Like I said, I'm going to ask my friend, but uhm this thread is ruined due to the excessive deletions.

Darlene159 · #8 10-21-2009, 11:52 PM

This is the topic of this thread:

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

So... everyone knows the website is confusing, unhelpful, and is very poorly marketing Graal.

I am going out on a limb by posting this; but I believe it's completely necessary. Graal is, without a doubt, losing business because of this website.

I will reward (and try to get rewards from Stefan) anyone who builds a nice website template. If you are trying to build one and get stuck, you can post it on here and get some help with it.

Basically, I think a template of a website would be nice, for example; just place a text box for "Account" and a textbox for "Password" that wouldn't actually do anything; the rest could be done by unixmad/stefan at a later date.

I don't have much approval for this project, but I hope that if we can design a decent template then everyone will see the light and understand the reasoning for why we need a new website.

This is a great opportunity for members of the GDT, but anyone is open to the project.

Post in this thread if you want to help, otherwise....DONT POST

Rufus · #9 10-21-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Post in this thread if you want to help, otherwise....DONT POST

What if I wanna ask questions?

Darlene159 · #10 10-21-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

What if I wanna ask questions?

Then ask, but not "so why should we have to do it?" or anything related to that.

Rufus · #11 10-21-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Then ask, but not "so why should we have to do it?" or anything related to that.

Oh, is that against the rules?

Darlene159 · #12 10-21-2009, 11:55 PM

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Oh, is that against the rules?

In this thread, yes.

Crimson2005 · #13 10-21-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Then ask, but not "so why should we have to do it?" or anything related to that.

Don't think anyone will ask that, we now know it's left to the players or it won't get made =x

Sam · #14 10-22-2009, 12:01 AM

To make it clear: all posts to provoke, argue and off the topic "new website" (as stated by Tig) in this thread results in a ban.

DarkCloud_PK · #15 10-22-2009, 05:08 PM

While I agree that the players shouldn't have to do things like this to help their online game, and that they can't support or fix the big problems presently challenging the future of it. I do hope anyone who has the skills and the interest to complete this project, does so.
It is one of the many things that needs to get done to start bringing in more new players to replenish the community.

Imperialistic · #16 10-26-2009, 09:28 PM

Jeff and I will be working on a new template!

Jeff is a website designer and I'm just there for some minor graphics maybe and for opinions.

I think we want to make a welcoming/eye candy, GraalOnline "related" template that has to deal with the game, instead of having a spectrum of colors such as pink and blue O_O.

Tigairius · #17 10-26-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic

Jeff and I will be working on a new template!

Cool, keep us posted

Imperialistic · #18 10-26-2009, 09:49 PM

I'm going to start making a few headers and seeing which one is best.

I've only made one so far:

(NOT GUARENTEED TO BE USED relax kids)

Oh ya and btw, Haven't added the text yet lelelelel

**UPDATE** Made another one:

cbk1994 · #19 10-27-2009, 01:17 AM

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I really like this one.

Darlene159 · #20 10-27-2009, 02:23 AM

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I really like this one.

I like it too, but it only shows one part of Graal, it shows nothing of the classic graal.

Matt · #21 10-27-2009, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic

I'm going to start making a few headers and seeing which one is best.

I've only made one so far:

(NOT GUARENTEED TO BE USED relax kids)

Oh ya and btw, Haven't added the text yet lelelelel

Love that one.

Rufus · #22 10-27-2009, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Imperialistic

This image has a nice ambience about it, but as a header its too dark.

Imperialistic · #23 10-27-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I think that it's very important we don't orient the webpage to the existing community members, but potential community members. I don't think we should emphasize some western sense of equality and try to get every aspect (or even the more popular aspects, from the community point of view) of Graal into the introductory page.

Yes, this only makes sense.

I mean, it would be awesome to show all styles of servers on GraalOnline, but you have to think about the "potential community" as stated by Stephen that they need to see something that will possibly be attracting to them.

I just don't want to create a header that is simply for potential players but something that feels warming for existing members. So right now I'm battling myself on how to implement eye candy with alot different features Graal has to give, without it being a "2D newbfest LAWL".

I mean who wouldn't be attracted at the view of a 3D looking game that has some originallity to it? Thats why I picked Graal Kingdoms, but more headers is on the way were I'm really going to try to catch ALL aspects of Graal. (i.e Zone, Classic, GK, Era, ect.)

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Originally Posted by Rufus

This image has a nice ambience about it, but as a header its too dark.

I thought so too, but it all depends on what color Jeff decides to make the template I suppose, if the template will be dark, I want something that wont contrast too much with the rest of the template.

DuBsTeRmAn · #24 10-27-2009, 12:18 AM

I guess that is just the header for Graal Kingdoms?
Looking nice

Imperialistic · #25 10-27-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn

I guess that is just the header for Graal Kingdoms?
Looking nice

No,
Right now I'm going to create a header for Graal in general. Those represent the "general" header.

[email protected] · #26 10-27-2009, 12:50 AM

I don't like it... it's not Graal? It's not bad- but it just doesn't say Graal to me?

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=79494

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...6&d=1209125907

I'm thinking more along these lines. Those are nice!

Darlene159 · #27 10-27-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

I don't like it... it's not Graal? It's not bad- but it just doesn't say Graal to me?

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=79494

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...6&d=1209125907

I'm thinking more along these lines. Those are nice!

I love that second one.

I would like a header that shows classic, and gold.

alskdjfhg · #28 10-27-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

I don't like it... it's not Graal? It's not bad- but it just doesn't say Graal to me?

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=79494

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...6&d=1209125907

I'm thinking more along these lines. Those are nice!

Pretty cool!

Cubes · #29 10-27-2009, 04:15 AM

Needs something that looks exciting, also there is better things you can get from GK than slashing a bomy, possibly some pvp or something?

DustyPorViva · #30 10-27-2009, 04:16 AM

Could just create a bunch of banners for different servers and randomly rotate them every time the page loads. It would look much better than trying to make one banner out of all the different themes and styles.

Darlene159 · #31 10-27-2009, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Could just create a bunch of banners for different servers and randomly rotate them every time the page loads. It would look much better than trying to make one banner out of all the different themes and styles.

That's a good idea

Tigairius · #32 10-27-2009, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Could just create a bunch of banners for different servers and randomly rotate them every time the page loads. It would look much better than trying to make one banner out of all the different themes and styles.

Can't say I really support this idea, Graal is already lacking a centralized theme as it is, making a website constantly shift themes would just add to the confusion.

DustyPorViva · #33 10-27-2009, 05:22 AM

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Can't say I really support this idea, Graal is already lacking a centralized theme as it is, making a website constantly shift themes would just add to the confusion.

Then Graal needs a more centralized theme before that can happen. However, apparently the topic is not about a centralized theme, so I think I can safely disregard that sort of approach. So until that happens, I'd rather random banners than a jumbled one that tries to reflect the many servers.

Rufus · #34 10-27-2009, 05:25 AM

Stuck on looking for a centralized theme? Lost for focus on the most impressive Graal features? Well Luda and I have came up with quite possibly the best representation of Graal, and more importantly it's best feature.. Flying Technology!

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Let us know if it needs more contrast.

Stephen · #35 10-27-2009, 05:51 AM

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Stuck on looking for a centralized theme? Lost for focus on the most impressive Graal features? Well Luda and I have came up with quite possibly the best representation of Graal, and more importantly it's best feature.. Flying Technology!

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Let us know if it needs more contrast.

Get me a gun; I need to shoot down a balloon. We'll all mourn Luda's passing - or try to catch him.

LoneAngelIbesu · #36 10-28-2009, 02:32 AM

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That banner actually wouldn't be too bad, if it were vectorized or professionally draw.

Crono · #37 10-28-2009, 02:36 AM

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Stuck on looking for a centralized theme? Lost for focus on the most impressive Graal features? Well Luda and I have came up with quite possibly the best representation of Graal, and more importantly it's best feature.. Flying Technology!

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LOL most awesome one here, next to Deo's of course.

Umat · #38 10-28-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

Stuck on looking for a centralized theme? Lost for focus on the most impressive Graal features? Well Luda and I have came up with quite possibly the best representation of Graal, and more importantly it's best feature.. Flying Technology!

Attachment 49712

Let us know if it needs more contrast.

Me likes. This looks great.

A classic styled server themed like that and we're good to go.

Tigairius · #39 10-27-2009, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Then Graal needs a more centralized theme before that can happen. However, apparently the topic is not about a centralized theme, so I think I can safely disregard that sort of approach. So until that happens, I'd rather random banners than a jumbled one that tries to reflect the many servers.

Well, part of the website building is also to build a nice centralized theme. I have someone working on a new login screen theme and stuff and plan to eventually have a centralized theme. I think I'd like it if we actually worked towards a good goal rather than working towards a quick fix of a bunch of random banners (which requires more work anyways).

DustyPorViva · #40 10-27-2009, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigairius

Well, part of the website building is also to build a nice centralized theme. I have someone working on a new login screen theme and stuff and plan to eventually have a centralized theme. I think I'd like it if we actually worked towards a good goal rather than working towards a quick fix of a bunch of random banners (which requires more work anyways).

Well, their direction doesn't seem to be going that way, and since they're the only ones who seem to be trying, I'm at least going to cater my suggestions to what they're doing.

However, seeing as Graal itself needs to be centralized as well, I don't think that should be the work of two players who are just trying to help out.

I also never said I agreed with their work, but if something is going to try to fit a bunch of screenshots of different servers, or focus on one, may as well make them go through them all in an elegant fashion. That's only if the banners are going to try to reflect specific servers, however.

Creating a theme that best represents Graal is going to be hard because... well, it's been said, Graal is made up of a bunch of random stuff. The closest thing we have is the Graal2001 logo. I think this needs to be a separate thing that's done first, however, rather than leaving it all up to webdesigners, because like I said, Graal itself is in need of it.