I played the old graal, but I never define whether a person was an oldbie by how long they played alone. (Especially since I had a trial account most of the time) I play on different servers, and mostly on DR, but i think the point is, if they came out with a new server tomorrow, with a new system the oldbies would be confused there as much as a person who just started playing graal the day before. So I define oldbie on a few things, how long they have played, whether or not they brag about being an oldbie (bragging=bad), whether or not they are willing to help noobs. And general graal wisdom
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I can think of a lot of people who fit the ticket, but I can also think of a lot of people who think they're great, but aren't. It's wise to believe you're not wise, because then you are wise
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...oh, and btw, if you played zelda online, quit for 5 years, then come back, you are a noob. Graal has changed, ad so should your state of mind