Intel Mac

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Windows has always had a priority on Graal.

To you, maybe.

However, I paid for a Mac version. If you aren't going to make an intel Mac version, then I want a PPC version with ALL OF THE FEATURES THAT THE WINDOWS VERSION HAS! I DID pay for that.

It never said when I paid for the subscription that there were any Mac limitations. Onoes, hopefully someone will eventually sue for this, though I can't see anyone wasting that much time in this game.

In any case, read my signature, I'm quitting. Please don't post in my thread with a negative attitude, as you're going to.

Probably my last outside post, bye Graal. Go die.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

However, I paid for a Mac version. If you aren't going to make an intel Mac version, then I want a PPC version with ALL OF THE FEATURES THAT THE WINDOWS VERSION HAS! I DID pay for that.

That's like me creating a new account then saying "I PAID FOR THE PLAYSTATION 3 VERSION, I DEMAND A PS3 VERSION NOW SO I CAN STOP CRYING".

It never said when I paid for the subscription that there were any Mac limitations. Onoes, hopefully someone will eventually sue for this, though I can't see anyone wasting that much time in this game.

Did it say macs wouldn't be limited? You know theres tons of games that don't support macs...

In any case, read my signature, I'm quitting. Please don't post in my thread with a negative attitude, as you're going to.

Aw little baby.

Probably my last outside post, bye Graal.

I'm sure people care.

Go die.

no u

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Gerami

That's like me creating a new account then saying "I PAID FOR THE PLAYSTATION 3 VERSION, I DEMAND A PS3 VERSION NOW SO I CAN STOP CRYING".



Did it say macs wouldn't be limited? You know theres tons of games that don't support macs...



Aw little baby.



I'm sure people care.



no u

It never says anywhere on the website to expect it to be impossible to play Graal on Mac. They really ought to post that somewhere?

I paid under the pretense Mac would get the same treatment as Windows.

Yah right.

So, thank you so much Stefan, for following your own guidelines in exactly what you are going to do, and especially thank you unixmad, for all the fun (does that include my password getting hacked from your database and you posting about dumb people who ran the install.php file?)

[Admins]

Graal.net was a different thing.
Graal works on Mac, to check if it's working fine/fast enough on your Mac you can normally test it on your machine before upgrading.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

It never says anywhere on the website to expect it to be impossible to play Graal on Mac. They really ought to post that somewhere?

They don't need to, because (I think) they never said it was possible to play it on an Intel Mac.

I paid under the pretense Mac would get the same treatment as Windows.


Yah right.

I paid under the pretense that Stefan will give me $350,000 along with a lifetime supply of all the candy in the world~~~

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I paid under the pretense that Stefan will give me $350,000 along with a lifetime supply of all the candy in the world~~~

I don't recall them saying that anywhere on the website.

Edit: Didn't see Stefan's post, but you still should say that it is very hard to play on a Mac because of poor software design, or because of lack of support.

Graal does not work well enough for a decent playing experience. Period.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

I don't recall them saying that anywhere on the website.

Did you recall them saying they support Intel Macs? No? You get my point.

[Black_Wallstreet]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I paid under the pretense that Stefan will give me $350,000 along with a lifetime supply of all the candy in the world~~~

You mean he's not?

[Admins]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Edit: Didn't see Stefan's post, but you still should say that it is very hard to play on a Mac because of poor software design, or because of lack of support.

We can eventually add something like 'Recommended: CPU Power PC'

[Twinny]

Graal doesn't work on my Sega Megadrive. It didn't say this on the site so I assumed that it would have

*cough*

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Edit: Didn't see Stefan's post, but you still should say that it is very hard to play on a Mac because of poor software design, or because of lack of support.

For one thing, Graal runs very well on my PowerPC machine. It strikes me that the design of the software can't be that bad if it's running well here on what's likely a more basic computer than your own.

Second thing, Rosetta has no guarantee that what you are running inside of it will work well, if at all. That's just something you accept when you buy an Intel Mac with the intention of running PowerPC applications.

Third, I already wrote that there could be possible problems with Rosetta emulation on the Support Center Knowledgebase some months ago when I wrote those documents about Graal for Mac.

If you bought a new computer after buying your subscription to find it doesn't work, well that's your problem, not Cyberjoueurs.

If you haven't already bought an account, you can run Graal in guest mode (and previously the offline preview) to see how well it would work before buying a subscription. Nowhere on the website does it guarantee it'll work on your system, but the facility to try before you buy is there.

[Bell]

I really don't know of any game that bends over backwards as much as graal trying to fix everyones problems. Anyplace else if something doesn't work quite right they just say "sorry, can't help you"

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Bell

I really don't know of any game that bends over backwards as much as graal trying to fix everyones problems. Anyplace else if something doesn't work quite right they just say "sorry, can't help you"

ROFLMFAO

You're kidding right? You go to Stefan with a problem, he says:

Originally Posted by Stefan

hmmm

You go to unixmad with a problem and he bans you.

I no longer want a Universal version then. Make a PPC version that has all the features. This cannot be tested by trial, as you can't play many of the things you can with registered. I'm pretty sure you can't try out flash. And it's so confusing with the half-screen and what not, you'd never notice the lag.

So, when I bought registered, I bought it under the presumption that there was nothing wrong with the Mac client for PPC. WRONG!

http://graalonline.com/kingdoms/downloads/

I meet the system requirements. It doesn't say I needed a PPC mac. So therefore, I assume I can run it on a non-PPC mac. Nowhere did it tell me that it doesn't run on an Intel mac the same as a PPC mac.

If you guys eventually make a Universal version with all the features of the Windows version, i'll come back, and maybe I'll play again, but until then, you guys need to sort out what you're doing, because your current strategies are cutting out a lot of customers. (and I don't just mean the Mac strategies, I mean the trial strategies, all the new stupid subscriptions, etc)

[Crono]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

Nowhere did it tell me that it doesn't run on an Intel mac the same as a PPC mac.

Stop acting like games suddenly have to support mac. Consider yourself lucky they even bothered starting to support macs.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

So, when I bought registered, I bought it under the presumption that there was nothing wrong with the Mac client for PPC. WRONG!

Look, dude. You were aware of Rosetta and that it might not necessarily always work:

Originally Posted by Apple.com

Behind the scenes, Rosetta dynamically translates most of your PowerPC-based applications to work with your Intel-based Mac.

Originally Posted by Apple.com

Third-party applications that require precision real-time playback may perform better with a Universal version. For the expected arrival dates of Universal versions of third-party applications, check with their manufacturers.

Stop playing the hard done by party. If you were intending to use PowerPC applications, you should have stuck with a PowerPC machine. :/

Originally Posted by cbkbud

http://graalonline.com/kingdoms/downloads/

I meet the system requirements. It doesn't say I needed a PPC mac. So therefore, I assume I can run it on a non-PPC mac. Nowhere did it tell me that it doesn't run on an Intel mac the same as a PPC mac.

Once again: http://support.cyberjoueurs.com/inde...kb&article=102.