Armageddon

[Loakey_P2P]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Just because someone else stole them and gave them to Armageddon still does not give them the right to use it. It doesn't matter where you got it if it's not yours.

im not saying it's the server's fault . i blame who ever sent them to the guys . but that aside someone did say they were e-mailed to them . that's the person to keep an eye on , least where their work is concerned .

[Decus_Arillias]

Originally Posted by Cling

I am Beholder, and I am not involved in something illegal.
I draw pixel art and commission work for others, and the images used there are reserved within my personal stockpile to do as I please, such as to sell the images or to great my own works with it.

As for the jest I stole that content, I assure you I did not and the work is purely of my own.

Cling or whoever you claim to be, i can assure you even if we were given stolen content and did a **** load of work with it and added a lot of content to and from, (obiously outside of our osl for the blockheads who are simple minded)
the wall images and what was emailed wont be used because i honestly am sick and tired of fighting about things. These images were emailed to us about 5-6 months ago so you can only imagion the work ive done with them.

The images will be taken out and ill just question myself if i should let people continue playing garbage UN and Era and just use my time elsewhere.

if you honestly do have illegal graals then i hope you can only be as right as myself.

PS: if those tiles are yours then you must be making money off stefan for using some of graals orgional tiles that were within the tileset.

This content was and is 16X16 pixel tiles and is in graal form of its orgional source. Thats why its hard to believe you made and are making profit from it

[Decus_Arillias]

Yeah i would like to add to that also, there was a lot of orgional graal tiles with these tilesets. Even bombs and graal scripts with them. So if this is something you support dusty and any others then i can guess your only involved.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Decus_Arillias

Yeah i would like to add to that also, there was a lot of orgional graal tiles with these tilesets. Even bombs and graal scripts with them. So if this is something you support dusty and any others then i can guess your only involved.

Dunno if there are original Graal graphics, don't care. Whoever sent you the tileset in the e-mail could have just taken Beholder's graphics and inserted them in a bunch of other random Graal tiles that they collected. Since the tileset was e-mailed to you, you have no way of knowing, no?

All I know is that Beholder's graphics are being used on Armageddon and they shouldn't be. Yet here all the staff are trying to act like victims or trying to flip stuff around on other, but you're all just evading the issue here. You could have just said, "Oh, sorry I didn't know they were someone else's. Someone sent it in an e-mail, I'll remove them." But that would be too logical, instead you do everything but address the issue. And this is why this thread is so many pages long. Yes, it sucks to have to redo a lot of work that was based on stolen images, but that doesn't change the fact that the images were stolen. Pity doesn't grant you rights.

[Decus_Arillias]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Dunno if there are original Graal graphics, don't care. Whoever sent you the tileset in the e-mail could have just taken Beholder's graphics and inserted them in a bunch of other random Graal tiles that they collected. Since the tileset was e-mailed to you, you have no way of knowing, no?

All I know is that Beholder's graphics are being used on Armageddon and they shouldn't be. Yet here all the staff are trying to act like victims or trying to flip stuff around on other, but you're all just evading the issue here. You could have just said, "Oh, sorry I didn't know they were someone else's. Someone sent it in an e-mail, I'll remove them." But that would be too logical, instead you do everything but address the issue. And this is why this thread is so many pages long. Yes, it sucks to have to redo a lot of work that was based on stolen images, but that doesn't change the fact that the images were stolen. Pity doesn't grant you rights.

is it too logical to say the guy who emailed to us is a close friend? ive known him much longer then any of you, and its been months, thats why i was personally confused and was wondering the reasons. We felt like victims, your not in our place so dont waist your feelings on a issue that isnt the same.Im not looking for pity obiously i was looking for answers. Your still acting like a retard

[Loakey_P2P]

@ Decus - the real shame here is that your project is stepping back cause of this . graalonline really does need some new servers and its nice to see a classic style one going back to the things that have long since vanished like sparring . don't get discouraged , keep up the hard work .

[Cling]

Originally Posted by sssssssssss

"That random character" knew about this from the getgo.

Mildly unrelated but I believe his real name is Devon, I do not know his Graal Online account.

Haha, and thank you too, Dusty; But if the situation is resolved, it shouldn't require further instigation. Mostly likely all of the images in that email weren't renamed and started with "eye_". Guess I'll have to remember to watermark or sign the rest of my work.

[sssssssssss]

Originally Posted by Cling

Mildly unrelated but I believe his real name is Devon, I do not know his Graal Online account.

Haha, and thank you too, Dusty; But if the situation is resolved, it shouldn't require further instigation. Mostly likely all of the images in that email weren't renamed and started with "eye_". Guess I'll have to remember to watermark or sign the rest of my work.

I don't really care about what you say and will give the PWA's further investigation, along with mine, about how Dusty and Rufus knew about this as well as you, and let them continue my invenstigation further to figure out to do with me(as I am the one that put all that up), as well as Dusty and Rufus.


I'll contact you in a few days Graal. The stuff I found is shocking and should result in dramatic stuff.

[Cling]

Originally Posted by sssssssssss

The stuff I found is shocking and should result in dramatic stuff.

Please stop trying to make things worse. What ever is shocking, is not related to this current handling. I've already lost a few good hours on an active commission and drama is never a good thing before an early morning shift...

[Decus_Arillias]

Originally Posted by Cling

Mildly unrelated but I believe his real name is Devon, I do not know his Graal Online account.

Haha, and thank you too, Dusty; But if the situation is resolved, it shouldn't require further instigation. Mostly likely all of the images in that email weren't renamed and started with "eye_". Guess I'll have to remember to watermark or sign the rest of my work.

im not going through all the images tonight. So the server is locked to staff only for now.

[Decus_Arillias]

Originally Posted by Decus_Arillias

im not going through all the images tonight. So the server is locked to staff only for now.

Additional info is i actually removed all content simply because theres just too much work to go through.

[Cling]

I am completely unrelated to "dvd steals of playerworlds", I like my work to be original.
Wether or not I am an "Illegal Graal User" is also completely unrelated to anything...
If they truely wish for me to be banned, that is beside the point.

Thanks for everyone's support, sorry for everyone's troubles; And I hope you take care as well, Cyril. You're certainly an... Interesting fellow. You remind me of how the forums used to be years ago. Just remember, there is a bigger world out there.

[sssssssssss]

Armageddon is done. Sorry Hiro, I know you loved it, but continue on SOMEWHERE with our ideas. I wont even post our stuff, not in rudeness, but in pride. I made too many things to stupid ass dusty and rufus to even see.

Hiro keep our idea alive. Start it somewhere else where **** wont get dropped down on. BTW keep it staff only so ****s dont ruin it.

I will be contacting a PWA concerning eye of the beholder, dusty, and rufus. That will be my last action on graal.


I am sorry for all those who were supportive and looked foward to Armageddon. Hella, we have like 10k view lol, arguments and updates. I hope Sage, Precise, or someone else takes our ideas and makes it awesome on graal. You guys know what we were doing. Good luck graal, hope you die and just go to iphone and be ***. Goodbye.

[Precise]

Funny thing is half the servers on the Classic tab have modified/stolen graphics, scripts, ideas, etc.

Gotta love the underground hate flowing. Such a great project with an insane amount of potential, sad to see it rest.

I wish you the best of luck with everything in life, Cyril. -- Same for you Decus! I'll keep in touch.

-Pre

[fowlplay4]

So honest opinions can kill servers now, cool.