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Old 07-08-2011, 12:40 AM
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:59 AM
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Why can't I open a client? Restarted computer, still can't. Haven't been able to since the new options were added.

I asked Naith if he could. He can't either. He can open a v5 client though.


EDIT: Had to download v5.

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Old 07-08-2011, 12:01 PM
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Why can't I open a client? Restarted computer, still can't. Haven't been able to since the new options were added.

I asked Naith if he could. He can't either. He can open a v5 client though.


EDIT: Had to download v5. Pain in my ass.
Same thing happened to me. Worked fine on 7/6/2011, but seemed like on 7/7/2011 it started not opening. Luckily for me, i kept v6 and v5 separate the entire time for situations like this.
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Check your anti-virus scanner, some scanner automatically block applications if they are changing.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:36 PM
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Check your anti-virus scanner, some scanner automatically block applications if they are changing.
I disabled my anti-virus to see if I could open Graal. Nope.
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I disabled my anti-virus to see if I could open Graal. Nope.
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Old 07-09-2011, 01:07 AM
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If you download v6 off the website (here) and try to open it (rename it to Graal6.exe) does it work? Might be a corrupted update.
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If you download v6 off the website (here) and try to open it (rename it to Graal6.exe) does it work? Might be a corrupted update.
It did not work.

EDIT: It works after I ran it as administrator. But not until I re-installed.
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With the latest client the Graal screen is going black and freezing completely whenever I press ctrl + alt + delete in order to open task manager, while using DirectX and Vista, it is however fine when using OpenGL.

On a positive note, if I have task manager opened before Graal I can see the CPU shown at roughly the same level as with V5, whereas previous client versions were shown to be significantly higher.
Oddly enough though saying showscriptstats is still generating a % almost twice as high as V5.
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With the latest client the Graal screen is going black and freezing completely whenever I press ctrl + alt + delete in order to open task manager, while using DirectX and Vista, it is however fine when using OpenGL.
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit here; I can confirm the freezing, but I don't get a black screen. Also, resizing the window will fix it
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit here; I can confirm the freezing, but I don't get a black screen. Also, resizing the window will fix it
Hm yeah resizing the window is fixing it for me also, in V5 I could restore it by pressing alt + tab and browsing to a non visible error code prompt (Access Denied) and clicking "ok", but that's not occurring with V6.
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Hm yeah resizing the window is fixing it for me also, in V5 I could restore it by pressing alt + tab and browsing to a non visible error code prompt (Access Denied) and clicking "ok".
Apparently Vista's/7's panic overlay is messing with DirectX. Resizing the window will reinitialize it.
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With the latest client the Graal screen is going black and freezing completely whenever I press ctrl + alt + delete in order to open task manager, while using DirectX and Vista, it is however fine when using OpenGL.
I will check it, not sure why it's not detecting it.

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On a positive note, if I have task manager opened before Graal I can see the CPU shown at roughly the same level as with V5, whereas previous client versions were shown to be significantly higher.
Oddly enough though saying showscriptstats is still generating a % almost twice as high as V5.
The script stats are relative to the overall time required by the Graal engine which have also been improved with v6.

To the people which have problems starting the game: can you try to right-click -> properties on the exe and see if it shows a correct signature ?
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:56 PM
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I remember posting an issue regarding the transparency of showpoly in V6 compared to V5 appearing to be much lower.
I've now noticed that in V5 showpoly has a default mode of 3, whereas in V6 it has a default mode of 0, which explains why it appeared to be lower as it was being drawn as light unless a mode is specified.

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Old 07-17-2011, 10:37 AM
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Graal v6 auto-updated and now it doesn't open, however if I download the seperate installer it will run but only in its own folder. If I try to open it in my normal Graal folder (which I did for all other Graal v6 clients) it will crash.

edit- for some reason i had compatibility set to windows xp. i disabled this and it now runs in my old folder. :-)
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I'm getting a lot of errors like this when using v6 (but not in v5) on Maloria. Happens whenever I logon the overworld or open the default map.

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Also somewhat unrelated, but does anyone know why I'm getting this on both v5 and v6?

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I'm getting a lot of errors like this when using v6 (but not in v5) on Maloria. Happens whenever I logon the overworld or open the default map.

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Old 07-26-2011, 07:06 PM
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Bump. In addition to my last post, it seems like v6 isn't saving explored areas of the map at all. When you restart your client, you need to reexplore it all.
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Bump. In addition to my last post, it seems like v6 isn't saving explored areas of the map at all. When you restart your client, you need to reexplore it all.
Maybe it's some sort of setting in the GMAP file? There are a couple, see if there's something strange in there.
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Maybe it's some sort of setting in the GMAP file? There are a couple, see if there's something strange in there.
There is nothing but the basic settings in it.
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Automapping is ugly anyways. The map image functionality should be fixed(displaying the whole map image when the image is supplied).
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:33 AM
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The issue I posted about was related to automapping and has been fixed in Stefan's version. Case closed I guess!
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The exe-update process has been changed:
Instead of auto-updating on login, it's now showing a dialog and asking if it should update now, and also provides a link to the download zip in case the user wants to update manually. Note that in some cases it will still prevent the use of outdated Graal versions so you cannot prevent updating forever.

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- on linux it will provide the two download links and let the user install them manually (auto-update process too complex right now)
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Can you make a list of things that need to be fixed for you to adopt v6? v5 needs to go away as soon as possible so developers can start using the new features of v6.
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Can you make a list of things that need to be fixed for you to adopt v6? v5 needs to go away as soon as possible so developers can start using the new features of v6.
My reasoning for wanting to use v5 for as long as possible is more personal (playerlist, profile, etc not being scripted / fonts).
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Graal version 6.007 has been uploaded:
- also shows version 6 on server-side now (script variable player.graalversion)
- fixed problems of stalled downloads (supposed to continue downloading files after 5 seconds even if there was a problem with one of the previous download requests)
- doesn't try to download map parts from server
- doesn't try to update files from inside a zip or wba
- the rows of GuiTextListCtrl are not deleted when the control is added to another parent
- reduced file size by 200k

This version is the 'Gold Master', which means if this version is fine then it will be the final v6 release. Of course we can still fix things if you discover big problems.

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Will we ever have the ability to disallow resizing/maximizing for external windows?

It just seems like this should be basic functionality...yet, its not possible to do.
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I've just discovered that there seems to be multiple instances of the same NPC being returned within the findareanpcs(); function, please fix this.

The reason I discovered this was that with the latest client Classic's scripted clientside onPlayerTouchsMe trigger was being called 2 or 3 times at once on the same NPC, this is causing quite a lot of annoying problems. So I then decided to test findareanpcs(); and I'm 100% sure this is the issue.

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Is that problem also happening on server-side?
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Nope, there's only one instance of an NPC being returned.
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Hmmm can check it (after vacation). It seems to also draw some npcs double or triple (shows 400-700 npcs on the screen on Era on a small netbook screen), have not tested with alpha-transparent npcs yet.
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Hmmm can check it (after vacation). It seems to also draw some npcs double or triple (shows 400-700 npcs on the screen on Era on a small netbook screen), have not tested with alpha-transparent npcs yet.
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