Bring back Classic levels and hit detection?

[contego]

Originally Posted by Masah

Nah,I don't.
You know why people started leaving after p2p?
UN had more features.
Classic never developped anything,you started late 2005? lol.
It was too late.

Don't blame players for not beeing loyal when you got nothing new to have.
I understand everyone who switched server,those who stayed were mostly iders? Correct me,but who pk nowadays on classic.

Thank you!!!! UN, delteria, N-Pulse are all examples of basically everything Classic could have been but never took that direction. The development never took on projects that were needed.

I'm definitely okay with the current staff staying where they are, just want them to listen to their players requests.

As it's been said before, this is NOT the first time players have requested it in the last few years. -.-

I don't know why they aren't continuing to pursue it. Develop things that will attract new players and keep exsiting players. Things such as events, an economy, tournies, and more. -.-

[dmhabe]

Your missing the point kid.
YOU AMPUTATED A BROKEN ARM
YOU YANKED OUT A TOOTH BECAUSE IT HURT
YOU MADE IT WORSE

[Masah]

LOl.
Classic currently:

5-7 RCs.
It means probably 5-7 Staff

14 players

25-14=11
11=Me,****zy,Cell Chill,Gate.

So official player count 8.

Gj.. we want more

[unknown]

HEY DARK CLOUD, EVERY DAY YOU GET CLOSER TO DEATH, SO JUST OFF YOURSELF.

thats what it looks like youre saying. I mean, graal itself is slowly dying, are you doing anything about it? are you quitting? nope so stfu.

[contego]

DarkCloud you're making this a fight about who's right and who's wrong. This is a fight about Classic staying Classic with it's HD.

Add new content to keep players happy and attract new players. Since when has any of this happened?

And if you mention the Trading Cards as an example, so help me...

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by unknown

LOL very good point/analogy.

even if it was dying DC, why was it dying? not because of p2p, because a whole bunch of classic players still play other servers. They wont play classic why? the same reason they left, crappy hit detection. My mom is a debate teacher, I can call her if you'd like and she can read this whole forum, bet you have no valid points really.

I am still baffled how you cannot put two and two together and get four here.

The server was dying long before we lost default HD.
The server continued dying afterwards, at about the same pace as before the HD switch, maybe a little faster but not by much, after that it just had its ups and downs.

Clearly if the server was dying at a similar rate both before the HD swap and after it, obviously the HD swap wasn't much of a factor in the first place.

Too bad you'll completely ignore that and just continue to tell me that I have no point when I can't possibly lay this out for you any easier. You're either too blinded or too retarded to comphrend things, and just want to clutch onto your HD debate, no matter what logic, no matter what history, no matter what actual events say otherwise.

Just because you think something is true and hold onto it reaaaally hard, doesn't make it true.
HD isn't the primary problem Classic has.

[-Albus]

To all the people that left classic:

When you best friend gets really sick, do you just go get another friend?

lolol look i can make retarded comparisons as well.

[dmhabe]

I agree DarkCloud, after reading 25 pages I think your the problem

[dmhabe]

Originally Posted by -Albus

To all the people that left classic:

When you best friend gets really sick, do you just go get another friend?

lolol look i can make retarded comparisons as well.

If he has Swine-Flu yes Id leave.
If your relationship partner has Herpes would you leave? I would

Nice try at being clever

[DarkCloud_PK]

Yes, I killed Classic.
It was definitely me.
I blame me for making CTF sumo.

[contego]

Originally Posted by -Albus

To all the people that left classic:

When you best friend gets really sick, do you just go get another friend?

lolol look i can make retarded comparisons as well.

Classic is not the same game at all. Same name, that's it. The GAME was sparring and PKing for me. Hense the HD system.

A better analogy for you is:

Your best friend gets really doped up on drugs and comes out like Steve-o, bless his heart.

You'll be there to help pick up the peices but you have to let them take their own course and offer help along the way.

Classic took a wrong direction because of the Development (DarkCloud and Master Storm.)

Now I'm here along with others offering to help be that friend and help, so to speak.

[-Ramirez-]

Originally Posted by Bell

In regards to hit detection. I believe I did touch on that without using those exact words. Quite a few developers have offered their help yet quickly realized they were in too deep and left. Unless you actually scripted for Classic you wouldn't understand that the movement and HD are intertwined.

This is true, but not for the reason you think. It has everything to do with the fact that the systems are a webbed mess with no structure or logic behind them. They're a collection of random elements thrown together just to make it function, and not even in the right way. Trying to manage this mess is a task that's nothing but frustrating.

[-Albus]

Originally Posted by contego

Classic is not the same game at all. Same name, that's it. The GAME was sparring and PKing for me. Hense the HD system.

A better analogy for you is:

Your best friend gets really doped up on drugs and comes out like Steve-o, bless his heart.

You'll be there to help pick up the peices but you have to let them take their own course and offer help along the way.

Classic took a wrong direction because of the Development (DarkCloud and Master Storm.)

Now I'm here along with others offering to help be that friend and help, so to speak.

I understand this, but comparing this game to the holocaust is a bit much.

[contego]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Yes, I killed Classic.
It was definitely me.
I blame me for making CTF sumo.

CTF is an epic game. That is improvment. Well done, but keep in mind I am the one who started this poll and I don't think you're useless by any means. I am not fighting for the Staff to gtf off I am fighting for the staff to realize what we want and realize that we're all willing to help you get there. We are trying to support you. Let's work as a team DarkCloud/Master Storm.

[dmhabe]

Enough said