Graal: Nostalgia

[Umat]

Sounds like fun.

[DarkCloud_PK]

I would like to know how you plan to convert a giant list of entire pre-npc server serverbackups to work with the NPC server?

I could see these list of collective servers reaching well over 50,000 levels of npcs needing conversion, of varying degrees of intensity, depending on simple level scripts like doors to extensive systems such as a banking system or whatnot.

That alone stretches this idea to well beyond being remotely possible. Don't give me any crap about not using an NPC server either. Being a PWA, you should damn well know that an online server is required to have one with absolutely no exception. If you dont, well, you really are in the wrong position as a PWA. You should also know how strongly Stefan holds to that as well, just on the basis of security alone.

[CABAL49]

Originally Posted by Crono

Babylon our homes in 2001/2002.

2003

But yes. I loved Babylon.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

You will log into the server and get a choice of which server you want to "go back in time" to. There may be multiple versions of one server eventually.

[Frankie]

it seems like there's going to be a lot more work to be done than expected, which means this would just be a waste of time. it's hard to believe that you can just upload the server backup and it's good to go.

[papajchris]

i miss sitting on Babylon using the swatter for hours and having swatting parties

This would be a really cool idea. Even if the NPC's didn't work, it'd still be cool to see the layouts of the levels and such and maybe someone who knows each server well could kind of set up a tour like thing with signs having descriptions of cool areas.

Alot of the servers mentioned, i only played once or twice, and i'd love to remember what those servers were like.

And some of you are bashing tig for his ideas, when i think he is the first pwa that i noticed atleast, that actually thinks like a player of graal and seems to be trying to get involved with the players by making these polls and such.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

I would like to know how you plan to convert a giant list of entire pre-npc server serverbackups to work with the NPC server?

The server would remain in gs1 for the majority. I can easily search the levels using windows search for 'toweapons', 'toinventory', and other old deprecated commands and convert them or remove them (convert toweapons to addweapon and remove toinventory).

Please try to understand that for the most part these servers wouldn't be completely functional as they were back in the day (lacking certain features, events, etc), but are to serve the purpose of nostalgia, not game-play.

I believe with a little creativity it could be very easy to transition servers from <= 2003 to an npc-server.

[zephirot]

I like the idea.

[Dark_Zeratul101]

Lol what about Era? That server was THE **** in 2002-2003.

I don't think any backups exist in those times though.

[MysticalDragon]

Back then back ups where routinely kept by stefan, there was alot of immature staff and always ended up deleting the server. Either way, the servers I mentioned may of not been completed or even close to completetion. THE POINT I was trying to make is, there are servers out there that failed for other reasons then lack of players.

P.S I forget Kittahs first name but she went to UN after. She got manager after heyHOST disappeared, That also happened a lot back then.
What Delteria are you guys Referring to? I been playing graal since 99, and still from this Day I never seen delteria even close to the top of the list.

[Switch]

Originally Posted by Rufus

LMAO Xibit (or however it's spelled)


This would be great, I'm sure many people would come and take a look around if this were to happen.

[SymphoniaPrince]

lol "Xzibit", funny stuff. Good idea.

[Spark910]

I've often thought about this and think it would be amazing. I have a pretty busy summer but plan to potentially return to development of Graal so would be open to a project like this! However I think such a project would be best as an actual server rather than a museum - I'm still not sure of your exact aspirations with the old versions of content you'll obtain.

I would however object to the idea of 'going back in time' at some sort of opening screen because there aren't enough players to make such an idea work well. I'd must prefer parts of the servers to be used as islands or perhaps towns/areas on an island - so that all the players are together in one world as Graal at its peak for me was all about running around and seeing other people.

Making it too fragmented or big (including overall level design, which to take my favourite of the list (Rudora) made it work despite a low playercounter as the levels were generally small in the main town and overworld to make sure you walked past other players) in my opinion will hurt the overall gameplay.

[Geno]

do you need permission? i thought anything uploaded was made property of graal. there for stefan and unixmad would be the ones to give you the green light?

but yeah i think it sounds like a great idea

[Aknts]

Idea sounds good but I don't think it can be pulled off how everyone is picturing it would be in their head.

Originally Posted by Geno

do you need permission? i thought anything uploaded was made property of graal. there for stefan and unixmad would be the ones to give you the green light?

but yeah i think it sounds like a great idea

That's what I thought. I know for a fact Stefan and unixmad have said this publicly since 2001. Plus I am sure you LordHelmut or whatever wouldn't care if you use Babylon. He's making his own game Fantasy Tales Online.

[zokemon]

Try to get a hold of Mithica.