Operation Summer Slam

[Galdor]

I want elk and shak graphics and some original ideas for a change :P not like an ugly cousin to wow like it is now, no offense.

[TheStan]

MD, I don't mean to offend you but....two people on that list of scripters can't even really be considered necessary for developement when you apparently have Novo, Zero, and Chompy.

Do Novo and Drakilor actually do alot of coding on the server? Just out of my own curiosity.

[MysticalDragon]

Drakilor yes, Novo revamped a great amount of our systems and is now retired, Read the bottom of my Post. Ziro brought Drakilor to our attention so of course he is a help (Contribution) to zodiac.I don't understand why my thread is being derailed by dumb questions. My only concern is to bring Zodiac to the light, since its been in the dark for so long. Please still asking, I need opinions on What you would like to see on Zodiac. Questions such as, I don't want another Wow server isn't in enough details for me. Explain a little more in depth so I can understand and feel you.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

Most playerworlds can't even find 1 scripter,

Wrong. Most UC servers can't. Notice Zodiac is one of the most popular servers, and classic, hence lots of scripters.

There is no such thing as (To many Scripters).

Well, no there isn't. But, there IS such as thing as too many scripters. Styles conflict, and, generally, scripters don't like working with other scripters (from what I've seen)

[grawlgamer]

AND seeing as zodiac is done... to an extent, you are hogging staff amirite?

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

Most playerworlds can't even find 1 scripter,

thanks for adding to that difficulty

[MysticalDragon]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Wrong. Most UC servers can't. Notice Zodiac is one of the most popular servers, and classic, hence lots of scripters.

Well, no there isn't. But, there IS such as thing as too many scripters. Styles conflict, and, generally, scripters don't like working with other scripters (from what I've seen)

Obviously your theory is incorrect, Hence Zodiac.....
All your theory's are incorrect actually.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by MysticalDragon

Obviously your theory is incorrect, Hence Zodiac.....
All your theory's are incorrect actually.

Fail.

Zodiac is an example of exactly what I'm talking about -- poorly written, poorly organized, and ineffecient code.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Fail.

Wave goodbye to the 97 players on your way out ok?
i realize what you were saying but i rly wanted to take it out of context 2 maek a kewl point

[DarkIceX]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

Fail.

Zodiac is an example of exactly what I'm talking about -- poorly written, poorly organized, and ineffecient code.

Please note, the majority of the current poorly written, poorly organised and inefficient code was done by one scripter, who was that way by nature if I understood him correctly. It didn't help that the additions of multiple scripters who didn't really understand the systems piled up over time.

However, here we have a team of great scripters who can understand the systems, make them more efficient and organise them into something better. Zach and Zero are already making plans to rescript the systems to be more efficient and allow more unique additions to gameplay.

If you're just going to talk about how having more than 2 Scripters is "fail" then leave the thread please.

@Crono: Thanks for the LOL2me.. LOL2u

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ah novo quit? he trained me on alot of things
goodluck

[TheStan]

There are only maybe two scripters on Graal who I'd even chance at working with, Chompy and and Inverness because in a sense they are who I learned from so I think the most like them coding wise.

As far as I'm concerned, the original Zodiac which Yen had coded wasn't really all that terrible as far as how his coding was. However, tons of scripters after him trying to understand the system screwed it over.

I have never been that big of a fan of Zodiac because it has never caught my interest like that. Zodiac was never innovative in any way at ALL. It is essentially another carbon copy RPG.

The best thing to do for Zodiac is for them to get a development server and completely recode the entire server into a more efficient setup and system. As well as re-draw quite a few things (those black menu's are disgusting). As I recall Ziro, Zero and Elk were doing that in there time. However, one thing led to another and so on, and so forth...

Either way, this is probably the smartest thing for Zodiac to do. On another note, you should also get some "Writers" for the server. Try to look for people with great imaginations that can design some interesting new things that branch off from the original "WoW-Carbon Copy" Zodiac. In an attempt to draw people to the server, copying off of something else is in no way attractive. Be unique!

Well that's my two cents.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by TheStan

There are only maybe two scripters on Graal who I'd even chance at working with, Chompy and and Inverness because in a sense they are who I learned from so I think the most like them coding wise.

[TheStan]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

And Ziro. :O

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by TheStan

As well as re-draw quite a few things (those black menu's are disgusting).

Been there; done that.

[Twinny]

Working together can be fine if you make sure you make your code is modular and heavily comment the inputs/outputs of each module. I'm making the item/player library on debug and I will be making sure that any current need is forfilled and there is plenty of room for changes/expansions. I will do my best to enforce that external scripts use the inputs rather then do it themselves.

I think it's better to have a few coders since it's emphasises the need for clean coding standards rather than sloppy single-purpose code that only the scripter can understand.