A Proposition to save Graal Kingdoms

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by Googi

Get real guys. Adding a new guy or shuffling staff positions isn't going to do a thing when nobody, not even me, can come up with a provable method of attracting players.

It will help because he'll actually DO something.

I've been playing GK more or less since the beginning, and noticed there's a terrible pattern going on.

-. New content released
-. Server is fun
-. Goes downhill
-. Dies
-. New content
-. Server is fun again
-. Goes downhill again
-. Dies again

Tig at least shows a quality of consistency hard to see in other people.
He'll get things done and bring more when they're needed. He's not the type of person to end up acting as others have:
a) Sitting around, letting things continue to get boring
b) Giving excuses or expecting people to be happy with "things are being done"


Googi, NOT adding new staff, and NOT "shuffling" staff positions will definitly do nothing. At the very least, giving Tig the admin or developer job will give GK a chance. A chance is all we need.

[kia345]

It's not like Gk could fall any further.Tig's already shown he can do a lot. Sure, nothing good may happen, but honestly, what's there to lose?

[BigBear3]

It's not even about playercount in my eyes. It's about content. I know Tig can make it. I really think someone of Tig's magnitude should definetly have a shot of being able to upload content.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

You aren't God Googi, and you haven't even tried to implement ANY ideas, you have come up with some, but I have yet to see you do any of them, and I'm sure even if you did, guess who'd stand in the way!

My ideas aren't worthy of implementation. When I come up with one that actually is (that is, an idea that's actually capable of successfully targeting a sizable market), I will develop it and try to get it uploaded.

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

It will help because he'll actually DO something.

Doing something isn't necessarily helping. The halloween items were doing something. Fun stuff all around, I got a cool new cape, etc. Did it do a thing to bring in new players? No it didn't.

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

-. New content released
-. Server is fun
-. Goes downhill
-. Dies
-. New content
-. Server is fun again
-. Goes downhill again
-. Dies again

To a new player, there's more new content on the server than there was 5 years ago, because to a new player all content is new content.

Originally Posted by Ziro_of_the_Turks

Tig at least shows a quality of consistency hard to see in other people.
He'll get things done and bring more when they're needed. He's not the type of person to end up acting as others have:
a) Sitting around, letting things continue to get boring
b) Giving excuses or expecting people to be happy with "things are being done"

You guys are complaining about the lack of updates as though updates are going to save the server simply by being updates.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Googi

To a new player, there's more new content on the server than there was 5 years ago, because to a new player all content is new content.

Part of saving a community is saving it's existing members.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Part of saving a community is saving it's existing members.

I'm not interested in saving a community, I'm interested in saving a server. If you're interested in saving the community then fine, but don't conflate it with saving the server. Saving the server requires bringing in new players and a lot of them no matter what, whereas "saving" the existing members is totally optional, so bringing in new members is the far higher priority.

[FenixTheBanished]

Googi, you keep to your project with advertising, let Tig do the content and the add things that are going to help the server AND the community. Alot of people stay in Graal BECAUSE of the community because of the lack of updates or ANYTHING being done.

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

please do not post unless you have something constructive to say. Thanks.

I do.

Trust me, this wouldn't work out, knowing kingdoms "well" or not. Adding a new administrator would not change the fact that what would keep it going would be taking what Bjorn is doing and helping him with that.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

Googi, you keep to your project with advertising, let Tig do the content and the add things that are going to help the server AND the community. Alot of people stay in Graal BECAUSE of the community because of the lack of updates or ANYTHING being done.

Obviously there has to be a community, but it makes no difference to me whether it's the current one or some new one.

[Stephen]

Wasn't Tigairius globally banned... twice?

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Wasn't Tigairius globally banned... twice?

Check my ban history.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by Googi

Doing something isn't necessarily helping. The halloween items were doing something. Fun stuff all around, I got a cool new cape, etc. Did it do a thing to bring in new players? No it didn't.

As everyone said, the Halloween items were just a quick thing whipped up. The result is going to reflect upon the effort.
Of course it wouldn't bring in new players. Noone ever said it would help things.

I actually returned because of the Halloween items (noone wants to miss out on gift shop items...they can become rare and valuable). I have no reason to believe I'm the only person who did this. The problem is... anyone who would have done that had no reason to stay (I had my own reasons for staying...)

Tigairius definitly has something Stefan and Bjorn don't: a better perspective of gameplay. The player's perspective. He can better understand and relate to the problems.

[LadyDarkwolf]

Getting new people and alot of them is great but if you can't keep them once they get to the point that all those that left were at whats the point in trying to getting them to come play.

Shouldnt there be something to get those that play now to stay [B]and[B] get new people to start playing but also keep everyone?

And sometimes getting knew ideas from new admins / managers call it what you want is the best thing you can do for a game... note i said sometimes. <is not saying get rid of anyone but maybe its time for some new blood>...

[Mousymee]

Originally Posted by Horrified

I do.

Trust me, this wouldn't work out, knowing kingdoms "well" or not. Adding a new administrator would not change the fact that what would keep it going would be taking what Bjorn is doing and helping him with that.

Problem is, Bjorn isn't doing anything. You don't play this server, you have no idea what's going on. Tig's really talented, there's plenty he can do for the server. Googi, updates are essential to keep the players playing. We're trying to save the server, and saving the server means keeping a healthy playercount. Duly noted, updates don't matter to new players, but there's not a whole lot being done on the new player front right now, and it's not like
working on updates does anything to prevent getting new players on.

[protozero]

This game has gotten extremly boring. I have 7 days left on my account, and I won't upgrade unless something extremly drastic happens, which probably won't.

I don't see why any of you are against Tig haveing administrator rights, please tell me what wrong could come out of it!? Tig has proven himself both passionate and talented. Some new **** to gawk at while twidling our thumbs wuld be nice. There have been barely ANY updates at all, weather was crap but rain comes in handy for carrots. Even that took about a year to release AFTER it was said it was "already done". Bjorn has shown us what he can do, and I'm not all that impressed, lets give Tig a chance before we sack him.