Requesting clarification regarding the rule against external links - Page 2

excaliber7388 · #1 03-28-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy0687

Good luck with that tell me how it works out, i am not getting my hopes up for anything, expecially relaxed moderation as weve seen graal is famous for only one thing and that is overmoderation.

I can think of one way to make moer relaxed moderation

protagonist · #2 03-28-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

So the only thing keeping us happy is the fact that *some day* in the future, we'll be able to have fun on the NGRT forums. Ah, some day.....

This is how they keep people upgrading.

"Things will be good in the future."

napo_p2p · #3 03-29-2006, 01:34 AM

Hmm, so this isn't a violation of the rule?

http://www.killsometime.com

Darlene159 · #4 03-29-2006, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p

Hmm, so this isn't a violation of the rule?

http://www.killsometime.com

Why would you think that is NOT against the rules? Is that a Graal related link? Is it an outside link, not Graal related?

If it is Graal related, it is allowed, as long as it is appropriate.
If it IS NOT Graal related, it IS NOT allowed.

napo_p2p · #5 03-29-2006, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Why would you think that is NOT against the rules? Is that a Graal related link? Is it an outside link, not Graal related?

If it is Graal related, it is allowed, as long as it is appropriate.
If it IS NOT Graal related, it IS NOT allowed.

The Rule:

Quote:

c) You are not permitted to make external links if they are not pointing to a Graal site (wiki.graal.net , graal.net, graalonline.com ) . In some very rare cases, we may accept some links after being approved by a administrator or super moderator.

Look at my post again. I did not make an external link that points to another site.

OR! Here it is again:
http://www.killsometime.com

No link. Just text.

excaliber7388 · #6 03-29-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p

The Rule:

Look at my post again. I did not make an external link that points to another site.

OR! Here it is again:
http://www.killsometime.com

No link. Just text.

<3 LOOPHOLE!

Darlene159 · #7 03-29-2006, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p

The Rule:

Look at my post again. I did not make an external link that points to another site.

OR! Here it is again:
http://www.killsometime.com

No link. Just text.

Uh, it is still a link, just not a clickable one.
A little bit of common sense would easily answer your question.

haunter · #8 03-29-2006, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Uh, it is still a link, just not a clickable one.
A little bit of common sense would easily answer your question.

If you're going to gripe about people showing non-clickable urls in their posts, don't go around having clickable ones in your posts. "Common sense" would easily tell you that.

On a side note: I'm still curious about Unixmad's reasoning behind this silly rule.

PS. Technically it's not a link if it's not linking to anything. The wording of the rule is flawed if you expect to keep non-clickable non-graal URLs off of this board.

Blitz_Hunter · #9 03-29-2006, 02:29 AM

Wow, how retarded. Lets have a NGRT but not allow anyone to talk about anything not related to graal. Makes alot of sense to me. o_O

excaliber7388 · #10 03-29-2006, 03:27 AM

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I will not be going back and removing links that were posted before this rule went in effect, but all moderators should enforce this rule from now on.

Why? if these posts will just be moved, they won't be breaking rules on the new forums, will you be putting them back then, or will all old posts go bye bye?
Or is ther no real plan for a new NGRT?

CONSPIRACY, I'm getting my tinfoil hat!

Maniaman · #11 03-29-2006, 03:32 AM

Yeah this rule is pretty much retarded, and i think almost everyone will agree with me.
What happened to that special NGRT forum we are supposed to be getting?

excaliber7388 · #12 03-29-2006, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Maniaman

Yeah this rule is pretty much retarded, and i think almost everyone will agree with me.
What happened to that special NGRT forum we are supposed to be getting?

It's to special to be viewed

Malinko · #13 03-29-2006, 05:56 AM

Well, if the rules were followed in the first place, then the new set of rules which some people consider "strict" wouldn't be around, now would it?

Then again, it did allow for this new "relaxed" forum to come about, which is what people would like, so I guess it's a benefit.

excaliber7388 · #14 03-29-2006, 04:35 PM

http:// dictionary.reference.com/search?q=link

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Computer Science. A segment of text or a graphical item that serves as a cross-reference between parts of a hypertext document or between files or hypertext documents. Also called hotlink, hyperlink.

So a link is short for hyperlink, which the above is not
So, it's not against the rules.
I beleive the rule was created so people don't get linked to porn or some kind of prank. But with the effective moderation we hae, those posts would be modified, or the thread would be closed anyway, so why make a rule against all links? Afterall, if i wanted to make an actual link to dictionary.com, i'd have some difficulty

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Originally Posted by Damix2

Because we all know how easily accessable he is

-I had more posts than him a few months ago
-It took weeks for him to read my PM
-We STILL don't have a special NGRT section
-somehow, I doubt he's all that active
-Moonie knows him better than we all could, because they apparently talk often (or he gives really specific instructions, as opposed to the specific rules)

sorry unix I don't mean to be so harsh

haunter · #15 03-29-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388

<dictionary link>

So a link is short for hyperlink, which the above is not
So, it's not against the rules.

The rule has been changed.

zell12 · #16 03-30-2006, 01:47 PM

Everyone needs to chill out. Give the staff some time to open the private forums, add new moderators, etc. Almost all of your questions have also been answered by moonie about 5 times and people still are complaining about the links and stuff...

You can post external links in the NGR forum when it is private. While you're waiting for that, I'm sure it will not kill you not to post any links that are NGR.

Have fun newbies.

Darlene159 · #17 03-30-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by zell12

Everyone needs to chill out. Give the staff some time to open the private forums, add new moderators, etc.

Already done. Spark made it yesterday. Check in the existing NGR section

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Originally Posted by Gerami

And just a side note, I can't find my post. Who deleted it and took off the "soandso's message was deleted for soandsobadreason"

There is no log of any post made by you that was deleted in this thread

Milkdude99 · #18 03-30-2006, 04:45 PM

Guess who found his forum password .......

Zero Hour · #19 03-30-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Milkdude99

Guess who found his forum password .......

Hey

zell12 · #20 03-31-2006, 05:52 AM

Zero, like omg you were in the newspaper today for some reason...

Anyway, hello Moongod, and amen to ngr forum

Zero Hour · #21 03-31-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zell12

Zero, like omg you were in the newspaper today for some reason...

Anyway, hello Moongod, and amen to ngr forum

I was? Probably the art auction I participated in.

coder · #22 03-31-2006, 05:34 PM

External links relating from, or to a major company such as this will undoubtedly have an inevitable outcome. If something is not specifically clarified, or stated in the rules; a person may manipulate this nebulous topic.

jake13jake · #23 04-02-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

Does this also disallow links to graal related sites? Like the Graal wiki and playerworld sites.
- Can we get links to pages on the Graal Wiki approved in general, please?
Does this also disallow links to player-made content on the GraalBible?
Does this also disallow links to player-made sites on vip.graal.net?
Does this also apply to images, using the img-tag?
Can we expect links that have been posted outside of NGRT before this rule came into effect to be approved by the administration? Otherwise, will quoting posts containing such links be illegal as well?

This rule is obviously a safe guard against the actions I committed that warranted me a 1 or 3 or 4 month global ban straight from unixmad.

I doubt it disallows links to anything Pro-Graal related, but it certainly disallows links to Anti-Graal related sites, Strong Bad e-mail, or government-owned websites.

Although, you could probably get exceptions for government owned websites or Strong Bad Email possibly.... hmmmmm......

I wouldn't worry about quoting old posts with links, as long as it's not saying "I HATE GRAAL!!! GRRRR!!! HATE IT I DO!!!!!"