My final attempt

[haunter]

Originally Posted by Stefan

No only one per computer

What if you've paid for an account on one computer, but your little brother wants to buy one as well? Will that be allowed?

[Admins]

Originally Posted by haunter

What if you've paid for an account on one computer, but your little brother wants to buy one as well? Will that be allowed?

Yes of course, but you cannot "create" another guest account

[Admins]

Originally Posted by Codein

I'd find that even more annoying than relogging on with all your stuff gone.
If you can only play for 1 - 2 weeks, I'd love to see the population of the classic servers. Most newbies will come and go in a flash, it'd be heaven for all those idiots who "h8 nubs", but wouldn't it do the game more harm?

I would say most players on trial accounts either buy an upgrade or don't play more than 2 weeks. We still plan to make it possible to connect to Graal, but you need to create an account, and the number of servers will be very limited.

[Darlene159]

I'm pretty sure that if there were a guest mode, more people would pay to play.
I'm sorry, but the trial account issue right now is totally out of control (from a staff viewpoint).
There are so many members who use trials to cause trouble, get banned, then just keep getting new trials to do the same crap. It is rediculous.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by Stefan

We have also planned other things, like helping playerworlds to make the game easier for new players / guide new players (including Kingdoms).

How to help Kingdoms: Allow staff to modify more things on the server and leave it alone. Lord knows it's been left to rot.

[Inspiration]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I would say most players on trial accounts either buy an upgrade or don't play more than 2 weeks.

Incorrect.

My goal here is to get you to listen to me. I understand you have your idea of how things will work out; but we're the ones playing the game, Stefan. We see this stuff every day.

Someone makes a trial account. They play for awhile, and one of the following possibilities will occur:

A) They decide the game does not offer enough for them to continue to play as a trial. They quit.
B)They decide the game offers enough to continue on as a trial without upgrading
C)They decide the game offers enough content to be worth the upgrade, but they do not have the available funds to pay. They continue on as a trial.
D)They decide the game offers enough conent to be worth the upgrade, and they create a P2P account.

Only one out of 4 of these options ends with you making money, however, 3 out of 4 leave you with the possibility of the player ending up on option D in the future.

Now, with your new trial idea, your outcomes change to this:

A) They decide the game does not offer enough for them to continue to play as a trial. They quit.
B)They decide the game offers enough to continue on as a trial, but are forced to quit.
C)They decide the game offers enough content to be worth the upgrade, but they do not have the available funds to pay. Trial expires, they're forced to quit.
D)They decide the game offers enough conent to be worth the upgrade, and they create a P2P account.

Now only 1 out of 4 options will possibly give you money, instead of 3. After a player quits, or is forced to because their trial expires, chances are they will go on to one of the many other free games out there. As I've stated before, what do you believe Graal really has to offer compared to all the other free, or inexpensive, games out there?

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I'm pretty sure that if there were a guest mode, more people would pay to play.

You do realize most trial players can not, or are not, willing to pay the money for a P2P, correct?
They're not on trial accounts because they want to be, they're on them because their choices are limited. In effect, you're not making it more likely for them to upgrade, but less likely, because they will no longer be playing the game, and will thusly find a new passtime, and forget Graal. Think.



Stefan, I want you to address ALL the issues I spoke of, not just one.

All of us want answers to these questions. We've played this game for years, we've kept silent.

Now we want results. Results we feel you've had time to give us. Results we believe we have payed for.

-What state of development is Graal 3d in?
-What are you doing to remedy the low player count?
-Why are some members of Global Staff allowed to "get away with murder" or be almost totally inactive, and keep their jobs?


All of us have ideas about how to remedy situations that have been killing this community for years. It's time someone listened to us, and honestly put our thoughts into action for once.

I don't want to hear your defences, and I don't think anyone else does. We simply want to discuss how we can improve the future of this game, and we want you to listen with an open mind.

[Methril]

Originally Posted by Inspiration

Incorrect.

You're telling Stefan what is correct about his own game? I think he knows the stats better than you do, seeing as he has the logs and you do not.

They decide the game offers enough content to be worth the upgrade, but they do not have the available funds to pay.

I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. A p2p account costs next to nothing per month. I think I paid around 45 canadian for a year of VIP. That's 3.75 a month, I spend more than that on coffee and food every day.

[MysticX2X]

the guest mode wouldnt let the player explore enough to buy a p2p. Trials cant pm or do noting so how can they cause trouble? Hurting somones feelings? The guest feature will not work out. But just watch as the playercount will stedily drop. If players liked the game enough, they would buy it as a trial, so guestmode wont do anything except force the people to quit. This community is really dieing due to people finding better games with better administration, heck this community is getting boring to me. No new updates are ever made to servers that are populated. I dont even know what was the last fun new feature Un had except that pet thing. Itd be nice if you guys funded for advertisement, you wouldnt lose money but gain more. And i dont get why you guys raised prices of the vip account, all people wanted it for was to make guilds and playerworlds.

Originally Posted by Methril

You're telling Stefan what is correct about his own game? I think he knows the stats better than you do, seeing as he has the logs and you do not.

This game was meant for the people who play it and hes trying to do something so this community will rise again. Freedom of speech bud.(at least following inside the rules )

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Freedom of speech bud.(at least following inside the rules )

Hey, bud, this is the internet, not the United States, there is no freedom of speech.

He is doing what *he* thinks is right for the game, and guess what? *His* opinion matters.

Graal knew when they went p2p that they would lose some players. But guess what? There are enough players to maintain the game.


You all need to stop complaining. Graal is doing as Graal does. Players come and go, its all cyclic.

[MysticX2X]

Was that supposed to be an insult? Because you failed. Good job.

[Methril]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

This game was meant for the people who play it and hes trying to do something so this community will rise again. Freedom of speech bud.(at least following inside the rules )

I'm afraid that this game is ment for what Stefan wants it to be ment for. Players who donate content do it for their own satisfaction and enjoyment.

[MysticX2X]

i meant for the players enjoyment and yes it was also made for us too, i didnt say what type of game it was. Logic my friend.

[Damix2]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Was that supposed to be an insult? Because you failed. Good job.

What kind of odd sense of logic sees an insult in there? Darlene159 doesn't let people insult people around here.

[MysticX2X]

Dunno just thought you were insulting me in some sort of way. Its late at night im really tied.

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by Damix2

What kind of odd sense of logic sees an insult in there? Darlene159 doesn't let people insult people around here.

She doesn't let people argue around here as well. ;(