Make player accounts more secure...

matt8891 · #1 12-10-2004, 01:54 AM

I think i posted this in the right place...

Would their be any possible way to make accounts more secure when logging on. I mean hackers hack account passwords left and right for their own pathetic reasons. I was recently banned on N-Pulse and Jailed on Unholy Nations. I play those servers the most and to have someone hack my password and do this is rediculous...Accounts should be more secure in some way such as :

IP and if your on another CPU you would need that password to change your IP to the current IP your connected to..Graal Account and IP changer for the account would have to different passwords to make it more secure. The focus of this thread is'nt ONLY for my reason but this has happened to 2-3 of my friends and alot of other people im sure. And to have hackers get the passwords with ease is rediculous. Especially for a player who only plays 1 server (Yes some do this). So it's basically a waste of their money having to upgrade an account and get it banned where they play the most. Something needs to be done..Changing your password all the time still doesnt fix the problem

Kaimetsu · #2 12-10-2004, 01:57 AM

These "hackers" don't get your password unless you give it to them. It's hardly Graal's fault, and I don't think sensible people should be put through extra hassle because of it.

matt8891 · #3 12-10-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

These "hackers" don't get your password unless you give it to them. It's hardly Graal's fault, and I don't think sensible people should be put through extra hassle because of it.

I for one DONT give my password to anyone....and believe or not...Theirs ways to get passwords...Im sure theirs plenty of password crackers out there >.>

Kaimetsu · #4 12-10-2004, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by matt8891

I for one DONT give my password to anyone

Then nobody has your password. It's that simple.

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believe or not...Theirs ways to get passwords...

What, through arcane divination? Telegnostic rituals? I'm not saying the victims intentionally give away their passwords. They're just too naive, ignorant and/or stupid to protect themselves.

matt8891 · #5 12-10-2004, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Then nobody has your password. It's that simple.

It's not that simple considering im banned and jailed on 2 servers over only a 3day period. I dont even have "Save password" checked.

I all i want is some improvements in account log-ins if possible. Im sure this can happen. It wouldn't hurt to try..

Kaimetsu · #6 12-10-2004, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by matt8891

It's not that simple considering im banned and jailed on 2 servers over only a 3day period

I guess you should be a little more careful, then.

calum · #7 12-11-2004, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by matt8891

I for one DONT give my password to anyone....and believe or not...Theirs ways to get passwords...Im sure theirs plenty of password crackers out there >.>

Maybe you shouln't download dodgey programs or visit suspicious websites.

matt8891 · #8 12-12-2004, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by calum

Maybe you shouln't download dodgey programs or visit suspicious websites.

I dont do any of that.

Loriel · #9 12-12-2004, 12:50 AM

So if you say it is not the players' fault that their accounts get stolen, are you implying that there is a weakness in Graal's systems?

If that is the case, why do these evil hackers not steal Stefan's account, or mine, or some other admin's, instead of accounts of people no one cares about?

Spark910 · #10 12-10-2004, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

These "hackers" don't get your password unless you give it to them. It's hardly Graal's fault, and I don't think sensible people should be put through extra hassle because of it.

I agree with Kai. It would only increase the work load by people IP locked out of accounts, not what we need. Lots of people dont get their account stolen, and personally I have never had mine taken and there is nothing stopping anyone going on client if they have my password. But I don't signup for fake global staff applications, leave my password in an email in an insecure hotmail account or give it out to spark9ii on AIM!

NicoX · #11 12-10-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910

But I don't signup for fake global staff applications, leave my password in an email in an insecure hotmail account or give it out to spark9ii on AIM!

xD löl

zokemon · #12 12-10-2004, 03:06 AM

SOmeone could have put a keylogger on your computer

NicoX · #13 12-10-2004, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

SOmeone could have put a keylogger on your computer

yes, a keylogger or a trojan....
maybe someone sent you a file via AIM or MSN or ICQ or whatever with a virus and got acess to your passwords..so its your fault =/

matt8891 · #14 12-11-2004, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

Someone could have put a keylogger on your computer

Iv'e heard about this from numerous people...How would i remove this keylogger?

NicoX · #15 12-11-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by matt8891

Iv'e heard about this from numerous people...How would i remove this keylogger?

a keylogger is a virus
so u should delete them with an "antivirus programm"

Kaimetsu · #16 12-11-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

a keylogger is a virus

No.

NicoX · #17 12-11-2004, 10:18 PM

ehr ? someone send it to you so it gives him acess to ur passwords or ?

Slash-P2P · #18 12-10-2004, 04:25 AM

Graal should make you email validate every different IP you use (atleast if the first 3 numbers are different).

Loriel · #19 12-10-2004, 05:05 PM

No, it should not.

xAndrewx · #20 12-10-2004, 10:08 AM

You are responcible for your own account.

Slash-P2P · #21 12-10-2004, 09:57 PM

I've never had my account stolen. Don't give your password out to anyone, memorize it, don't log on computers that someone else could use your password from (or scramble it once your done), and if you can't memorize your password, write it down. Don't keep your password on your computer.

Crono · #22 12-10-2004, 11:57 PM

VISITING HAX SITES, CONNECTING TO 1337 HAXORS ON AIM, OPENING SUSPECIOUS FILES, AND MESSING WITH TRAINERS WILL GET YOUR PASSWORD STOLEN DAMNIT.

Seriously how can people get "haxed" on graal? You'd have to be an idiot to have your password taken.

Nitkizi · #23 12-11-2004, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

VISITING HAX SITES, CONNECTING TO 1337 HAXORS ON AIM, OPENING SUSPECIOUS FILES, AND MESSING WITH TRAINERS WILL GET YOUR PASSWORD STOLEN DAMNIT.

Seriously how can people get "haxed" on graal? You'd have to be an idiot to have your password taken.

<3

Slash-P2P · #24 12-12-2004, 01:58 AM

Good point, Loriel.

If you want a free program to remove keyloggers and other junk, I use Spybot: Search & Destroy

Loriel · #25 12-12-2004, 02:49 AM

format C:

Slash-P2P · #26 12-12-2004, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

format C:

format %homedrive%

Because I do have an operating system on my D: drive.

matt8891 · #27 12-12-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Slash-P2P

format %homedrive%

Because I do have an operating system on my D: drive.

Iv'e done that before a long time ago...Only it was by mistake

Leasure-13 · #28 12-13-2004, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

format C:

Just done that about 4 hours ago

ThinkDifferent · #29 12-12-2004, 07:39 PM

Or we can all use Macs and whenever somebody trys to give us a virus it asks for authentication

anim8999 · #30 12-13-2004, 02:14 AM

I was talking to some guy today named Kim Jong IL on GK and he was saying he had like 400 graal accounts

so if someone is able to have 400 accounts either...
a. they are rich or b they are an account stealer.... so yes i think accounts should be more secure.

Slash-P2P · #31 12-13-2004, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by anim8999

I was talking to some guy today named Kim Jong IL on GK and he was saying he had like 400 graal accounts

so if someone is able to have 400 accounts either...
a. they are rich or b they are an account stealer.... so yes i think accounts should be more secure.

Its all the stupidity of the players. When someone masses out a hack, don't click the ****ing link.

Milkdude99 · #32 12-13-2004, 06:23 PM

I have about 8 Graal accounts and none of them has ever been compromised so would it not stand to reason that maybe the problem is not with the Graal accounts but in the security of your own computer? I am no means alone in not ever having my computer compromised. Take steps to ensure your own security of your computer before you try to change Graal's way of securing accounts because that will solve nothing if you still have not taken steps to secure your own computer.

Emily_Cruddas · #33 12-13-2004, 08:00 PM

Kim Jong...Funny knowing he plays on GK openly after what happened on revenge online......dunno if this will get deleted but here it is anyway.

Slash-P2P · #34 12-13-2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Emily_Cruddas

Kim Jong...Funny knowing he plays on GK openly after what happened on revenge online......dunno if this will get deleted but here it is anyway.

The guy has too much free time.