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Old 11-24-2004, 04:33 PM
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It sounds like he is offering dollars for scripting
Possibly, but could he really offer enough to tempt the upper echelon?
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:43 AM
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And maybe checking threads for interesting information is a way for scripters to filter out the managers that are incompetent, too incompetent to work with.
Well, how about the fact that I am competant enough not to make my ideas directly public on a forum grazed by people also making servers whom may or may not be creative enough to get their own?
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:46 AM
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It sounds like he is offering dollars for scripting. I wouldn't make any presumptions, but that's what it seems like.
I could very well be, as long as the scripter is competant enough for the tasks at hand and produces work of a quality worth being paid for, and dedicated enough to get the job done, not that the server die off after 3 months of developing like so many others whom staff simply lose interest.

Kai, the above description is the scripter that I require, wether the tasks at hand will require the higher quality scripters or not is debatable, but I only intend to hire someone that is capable, or near enough that they can figure it out.

This is not a hire and fire project, I want the people working on it to stay working on it, so no one is picking up where someone left off, or starting over on things that are already halfway done.

This is not a project where people will idle on RC or chat about the weather, or the red sox or "whatever". Not that it's a strict number, or that messing around is frowned upon entirely, but time is valuable, and I don't want to waste mine, just as much as I am sure dedicated scripters don't like to waste theirs. I've worked for a server or two that hired me, gave me a project, and I did it and asked for another one, continued on for about 3-4 weeks before I realised, everyone else in the staff list was "Manager" "Co-Manager" or "Asst. Manager" and did little or nothing to counter my work. It's not a good feeling. I don't consider myself as "Managing" this project, as a matter of fact Kaimetsu, I consider myself to be the local graphics guy of the server. Paying for a server doesn't mean I get to sit on my ass while other people are making progress. I don't intend to hire anyone else for graphics, and my project will require alot of graphics work, more than enough to keep me busy, as I stated in one of the reasons to hire a scripter.

Kai, I welcome you to apply, or to contact me privately for information, but if you were so disapointed by my "less than informative" thread that all you can give is negative input, I wouldn't blame you for not doing so.
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:51 PM
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I am competant enough not to make my ideas directly public on a forum grazed by people also making servers whom may or may not be creative enough to get their own?
So how are we expected to distinguish between a talentless hack and a competent-but-secretive manager? Because the truly talented scripters ain't gonna go asking you for information unless they're already interested in the project.
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Old 11-28-2004, 06:05 AM
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So how are we expected to distinguish between a talentless hack and a competent-but-secretive manager? Because the truly talented scripters ain't gonna go asking you for information unless they're already interested in the project.
I guess I'll have to settle for one of the less talented, but more outgoing scripters in the community.

I'm surprised to see Kaimetsu is the voice of every "truly talented scripter" in graal, is he the leader, the charismatic voice of talented graal scripters around the world? Come on, how can you say that 'ALL' talented scripters would show no interest, you are not all talented scripters, you are 'A' talented scripter.
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Old 11-28-2004, 09:23 AM
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One of the system required to be scripted.

Isometric movement with elevation.
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Old 11-28-2004, 04:06 PM
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I'm surprised to see Kaimetsu is the voice of every "truly talented scripter" in graal
He is not, however you should not ignore the insight he is giving you.
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Old 11-28-2004, 05:14 PM
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I'm surprised to see Kaimetsu is the voice of every "truly talented scripter" in graal
I don't speak for them, but even you should realise that I know scripters better than you do.
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Old 11-28-2004, 05:30 PM
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Old 11-29-2004, 08:05 AM
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Possibly, but could he really offer enough to tempt the upper echelon?

Whatever it is beats what they're getting paid now, in all likelyhood.
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Old 11-29-2004, 04:36 PM
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I think what they are trying to get at is to describe the project that you are working on, like the theme of the server, what's it about, etc. etc. I'm sure money may tempt some, but as you can see with Kai, money or no money, they don't want to work unless the project interests them as well.

I think it is in the rules of this forum that you need to explain something about your server, is it not? I don't really care myself, I'm just saying, so don't jump down my throat.
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Old 11-29-2004, 07:37 PM
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As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems responcible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when talk to you. Ideas arn't the only insentive to work for a server...
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Old 11-29-2004, 07:46 PM
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To be fair, Raelyn, the screenshots you posted are exactly the kind of thing I was asking for. They show that you're a manager who'll innovate and provide interesting challenges for his staff members, plus they illustrate a concept that Joe Uncreative couldn't easily steal. I hope you get the help you need.

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As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems responcible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when talk to you
Are you saying that people with poor spelling skills are less likely to be mature and responsible?
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Old 11-29-2004, 08:12 PM
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As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems responcible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when talk to you. Ideas arn't the only insentive to work for a server...
As a scripter, I look for a manager that seems Responsible and mature. One example of this is the fact that they spend time on making sure they have proper grammer and spelling when they talk to you. Ideas Aren’t the only incentive to work for a server...

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