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Old 02-10-2004, 12:44 AM
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I don't agree on the reset... atleast not an item/skill/spell reset... You could fix those by changing the way you obtain them...
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:50 AM
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The people who want a reset are usually the ones who want to be equal with the "strong" people. However some of them just want it so they can get a fair start and work their way up to being one of the "strong" people and still have people below him/her.
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Old 02-10-2004, 12:51 AM
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Stop saying a reset will help just because everyone will be equal in levels and items. You can use your imagination to RP. ROLEPLAY as a knight with armor. Also you don't need to be in battle mode to RP so that's a flawed excuse for a reset to occur.
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Old 02-10-2004, 01:16 AM
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Stop saying a reset will help just because everyone will be equal in levels and items. You can use your imagination to RP. ROLEPLAY as a knight with armor. Also you don't need to be in battle mode to RP so that's a flawed excuse for a reset to occur.
Some people like rping with visual aid. It's nice to do because you get the point and two people dont assume different things when one says something. :O
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Old 02-10-2004, 01:37 AM
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Some people like rping with visual aid. It's nice to do because you get the point and two people dont assume different things when one says something. :O
Then they can RP with gold plate mails or chainmails and flaming swords or naginatas. They don't need war axes, hammers and event items to RP.
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Old 02-10-2004, 01:58 AM
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Stop saying a reset will help just because everyone will be equal in levels and items. You can use your imagination to RP. ROLEPLAY as a knight with armor. Also you don't need to be in battle mode to RP so that's a flawed excuse for a reset to occur.
But many people still believe there's problems with items and RPing though they don't necessarily have to be related. The relation is that people are encouraged to gather "leet" items and go "mapping" instead of roleplaying.

As for their individual problems, the problem of items is an unbalance for one. This unbalance is the unbalance between older players and newer players. I've said this before and it's hard to argue with it. The fact is this....in any RPG, ALL older players have the advantage of time over newer ones. This time advantage means they had more time to level up and build up their character. If I start playing an RPG and a year later you start playing....and we both put equal effort/time into the game, theoretically, I should ALWAYS be ahead of you (unless there's caps on stuff like a level cap...but then there's still item/wealth-collecting and it's not common to put a cap on that). This is a thing that's hard to fight against and create solutions for. It's just accepted...the older player started first so he had more time to do the stuff the newer one will do later. The problem on GK is that older players were able to get for free/cheap items that became rare/expensive over time as their production was disabled yet the items themself were NOT. Items such as this include random-alchemy armour/weapons...And remember, this is just one of the item/economic problems.

And then the other problem is RPing. Well...people are encouraged to work hard in the screwed up economy (explained above) to become "leet" instead of RPing. I guess I'm being repetitive x.x Kingdoms think they're good/strong because they have many high-leveled people who possess many great items. Yet most of these "good" people are idiots, anti-RPers, or retired RPers (or RPers who just don't put in any effort...), etc...
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Old 02-10-2004, 02:27 AM
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This is exactly why these things such as alchemy should be fixed! Anything that you could get in the past should be atainable(sp) some way now... Not always the same way, some way... I also think that maps should be replaced with more dungeons, interesting ones, not just endless corridors with preset-spawn monsters roaming around... I shouldn't be able to stand next to the same two runes on a dungeon floor, and kill a Trex every 5 minutes. I should have to hunt for it!
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:05 AM
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I'm pretty sure if stefan could make monsters visible with line-of-sight only and having them wander all over the dungeon would be interesting enough, Maybe ranbom encounters in the second levels of the dungeon?....With the monsters not yet added?...So alchamy could be reactivated?
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:11 AM
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So alchamy could be reactivated?
Im not sure why it was removed in the first place... Does anybody know?
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:17 AM
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Im not sure why it was removed in the first place... Does anybody know?
Because it was RANDOM alchemy...not a very stable system....I think there were other reasons as well
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:31 AM
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Because it was RANDOM alchemy...not a very stable system....I think there were other reasons as well
Alchemy should be decently random when not dealing with specific ingredents and conditions...
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:38 AM
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Dragon, you need to have a reset, because in order to RP properly, you need to have a certian level to use your characters abilities and powers. Also have your characters weapons, staffs, items. So you can't RP efficiently with this system unless you redo the entire system.

There will never be good role-playing on GK because of the setup.
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:39 AM
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Dragon, you need to have a reset, because in order to RP properly, you need to have a certian level to use your characters abilities and powers. Also have your characters weapons, staffs, items. So you can't RP efficiently with this system unless you redo the entire system.

There will never be good role-playing on GK because of the setup.
And because of how everything works in favor of the anti-RPers... x.x
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:43 AM
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Exactly. Not really for non-rpers, but the currenty layout really discourages people to RP and rather press s-d a hundred times mining, baking, combat, etc.
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:48 AM
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Exactly. Not really for non-rpers, but the currenty layout really discourages people to RP and rather press s-d a hundred times mining, baking, combat, etc.
That's all fine except it lacks balance with alchemy items and the economy and such....it's in need of a reset.

However, kingdoms need more regulation. People should have to RP in kingdoms....kingdoms are RP groups, you shouldn't join one and NOT RP...otherwise,you're just joining to cause problems
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