So many playerworlds...

[Lance]

Originally posted by Kristi
Chris, you speak as if quality is the only issue and it's irrevelvant to what the players want. Your weak arguements are coupled with attacks on my grammer (a sure sign of a lack of arguement.)

It's your own fault for not taking the time to form a proper sentence. You should focus on debating against his points. Consider this: if you were correct in saying that his attack on your grammar was a sure sign of a lack of argument, then it would also be correct that your attack on his attack is such a sign.

Take UN down and force them to become even greater? They have the highest playercount, hense they are both keeping customers satisified and drawing in money for graal. Until that changes, they have no need. I remember why I play graal, and its because i like to spar, pk, talk, maybe play a fun game or two, etc. UN provides great sparring, fun pking, and their CTF is incredibly fun, they inbody timeless interests and aspect. As amazing as oasis may be (or any other server), and make you ooh and aah, you will not ooh and aah forever. Why do you think Levi has been selling the same generic jeans for over 100 years and Paco Jeans died when so popular at a time?

You will most certainly agree that most new people start playing at UN because it's got the highest player count.

Once they have started there and looked around, some of them stay. This results in the maintained high playercount. However, what about all of those that dislike UN? What about those who view it to be a pitiful excuse for a server (and, to the newbie's perspective, a pitiful excuse for a game as well)?

You are counting those who stay - I am counting those who leave.

Wouldn't you want people to have the best first impression of Graal, rather than (as Chris pointed out) a dating service, a hotbed of insults, attacks, and inconsiderate players? I would.

[bo0ey]

I think Graal2001 shouldn't be in the classic list because frankly it sucks and is not going to go anywhere. Classic sucks too, who cares if its history, so was Nixon, and we don't love him now because he was here in the past.

UN is the most popular playerworld, 'nuff said. It should stay in classic tab. Any playerworld that keeps a constant 30 players or higher should stay in the classic tab. Others need to rethink their plans and have some more work done.

[--Chris--]

"Chris, you speak as if quality is the only issue and it's irrevelvant to what the players want. "

You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. That makes absolutely no sense. Quality = everything, gameplay included. Can you even define irrelevant?

"Your weak arguements are coupled with attacks on my grammer (a sure sign of a lack of arguement.)"

Weak arguements? Stop with the crap talk and try to prove my arguements weak. On another note, you threw the first stone (or tried to) "Yes, this is the perfect idea because everyone likes your opinions. " <---example.

"drawing in money for graal."
Dude, it's a _classic_ server and I doubt anyone upgrades to play UN.

" I remember why I play graal, and its because i like to spar, pk, talk, maybe play a fun game or two, etc. UN provides great sparring, fun pking, and their CTF is incredibly fun, they inbody timeless interests and aspect."

That sounds all dandy but what part of Graal does not offer sparring, pking, talking "maybe a fun game or two, etc." Just about every other server has a CTF game and it isn't original, refer to Graal 2001. "Timeless interests and aspect"...um...can you name something there that you won't find anywhere else with more?

"As amazing as oasis may be (or any other server), and make you ooh and aah, you will not ooh and aah forever."

Doesn't the same apply for just about everywhere else? Irrelevant.

"Why do you think Levi has been selling the same generic jeans for over 100 years and Paco Jeans died when so popular at a time?"

How in the blue hell do you make a comparison between a real life, huge industry with so many other aspects and outside influences? Dude, THINK.

Everything else is addressed in my previous post but I don't think you're even capable of understanding simple concepts.

[bo0ey]

Originally posted by Lance
Wouldn't you want people to have the best first impression of Graal, rather than (as Chris pointed out) a dating service, a hotbed of insults, attacks, and inconsiderate players? I would.

That's what Graal itself is, you can't change that. You yourself are a good example of this.

And the only way to give graal a good impression for new players would be to make something worth playing on Graal, which at this point there is not, so the real argument is not about first impressions with you guys, you are jealous or are mad about something, grow up.

[Lance]

Originally posted by bo0ey
I think Graal2001 shouldn't be in the classic list

It isn't.

because frankly it sucks

It doesn't.

and is not going to go anywhere.

It will.

Classic sucks too, who cares if its history, so was Nixon, and we don't love him now because he was here in the past.

Cute reference, but it's so full of fallacies that I don't know where to begin.

Please note that serverbashing is not permitted. Keep that in mind before posting more foolish tripe. Have a nice day!

[Lance]

Originally posted by bo0ey

That's what Graal itself is, you can't change that. You yourself are a good example of this.

I'm a dating service? Whoaaa.

You completely missed the point, though. ^_^

And the only way to give graal a good impression for new players would be to make something worth playing on Graal, which at this point there is not,

But you said UN was worth playing. Zing!

so the real argument is not about first impressions with you guys, you are jealous or are mad about something, grow up.

You have such a lack of an idea of what you're talking about, it's apalling.

[bo0ey]

Originally posted by --Chris--
"Chris, you speak as if quality is the only issue and it's irrevelvant to what the players want. "

You really have no idea what the hell you're talking about. That makes absolutely no sense. Quality = everything, gameplay included. Can you even define irrelevant?

Ok, now you're just being a *******. Try thinking before you post. There is such a thing as quality, and such a thing as comfort.

For example, I purchased a CD/MP3 player which worked fine,
but had a little static in the playback of audio. I paid 40$ for it,
but I could have dished out double and bought a high class
player.. Want to know why I didn't, even though I had the money
and it would have been no problem? Because I was more comfortable with the one I was buying. Quality doesn't matter,
its what people want that is important. So start using your brain
and quit being a dipstick.

[syltburk]

Originally posted by Lance


It will.

how do you know that??? Graal2001 have had meny chances know and they havnt succed, they wont again. I can tell it people will go online and it will probably have the highest player count in a few days, but later people will leave, as they did before.

[bo0ey]

Originally posted by Lance


I'm a dating service? Whoaaa.

No, you're a *******. Your way of thinking strikes me as idiotic.

But you said UN was worth playing. Zing!

No I didn't, that was Kristi. *****. I said UN was popular.
So again I will reiterate, you're a *******.

You have such a lack of an idea of what you're talking about, it's apalling.

........ HAHAHAHAHhahahahaha...

[Lance]

My apologies if you consider logic to be idiotic.

I consider willful ignorance to be idiotic.

With that said, I hope you enjoy your blissful life.

[syltburk]

Originally posted by Lance
My apologies if you consider logic to be idiotic.

Some times yes.
But i havn't seen anyone being logic so far, where

[bo0ey]

Originally posted by Lance
My apologies if you consider logic to be idiotic.

I consider willful ignorance to be idiotic.

With that said, I hope you enjoy your blissful life.

k, I'll take that as a white flag.
Gg. :grin:

Incase you are unable to understand what I meant by
white flag... White flag = surrender. I figured I had better
explain it, seeing how you completely screwed up at comprehending
the other posts.

[syltburk]

Lance would never retire as he cannot acept fact.

[--Chris--]

"'I think Graal2001 shouldn't be in the classic list because frankly it sucks and is not going to go anywhere. Classic sucks too, who cares if its history, so was Nixon, and we don't love him now because he was here in the past. UN is the most popular playerworld, 'nuff said. It should stay in classic tab. Any playerworld that keeps a constant 30 players or higher should stay in the classic tab. Others need to rethink their plans and have some more work done."

Graal 2001 offers more than most PWs. Kingdoms, a good economy, many mini-games. Most PWs just happens to use all of their ideas, refer to; dolls, hats. It doesn't "suck", it just consistantly need about 60+ players to be ran efficiently. Classic does kind of suck but it's a "Stefan server" for one, so it stays and it still offers more content than just about every PW (see all those quest and NPCs?) UN, Delteria, whatnot are all Classic rip offs with stolen 2k1 concepts and at a much lower standard when you really look at it. Variety is neccessary, 2k1 offers both economy and kingdoms/rping and lots of originality (like bomys and their bodies.) The reason why it doesn't thrive is because of the amount of things on the tab with the playerbase cycle I mentioned in a previous post using UN.

As for your flawed, poor excuse for a point using a silly comparison to a radio, I'd just quote Tseng/Lance:

"You have such a lack of an idea of what you're talking about, it's apalling."

"it's so full of fallacies that I don't know where to begin. "

[zell12]

Anyway, the topic is about the rented playerworlds that have 0 players, not about Lance being Manager of Graal2001.

Oh Chris, why do you make big long quote-replies (without adding the quotes brackets) and reply to every 2-3 lines someone posts?