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Old 08-08-2003, 08:50 PM
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I know i'm tired and i should go sleep, but, i could have sworn i put a post in this thread, yet i dont see it. Was it deleted for some reason i wasnt told of?
I don't think I've deleted anything here. Perhaps you made it in a similar thread and expected to find it here because you recognised the topc - I sometimes do that.
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Old 08-08-2003, 09:05 PM
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maybe alot of the olbies are leaving but.. just refer to Kaimetu said.. Today - newbies... Tommorow - olbies
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Old 08-08-2003, 09:55 PM
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Thanks a lot, Torankusu. You took away one of the best from us.
Like he care's
Bai man i wish i could upgrade, ill try to, when i get paid for my job, if i get the job or even if i get paid.. i dont know yet, anywho bye signing off*
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Old 08-09-2003, 07:10 AM
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Old 08-13-2003, 11:28 AM
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I only knew you for a short time on kingdoms like.. 6 months ago.. but you were cool

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Old 08-13-2003, 11:56 AM
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i hope toran now what can happen him with cc fraud,


bye Ghostie

or should we say

bye toran
yeah its sad to see GP go, but also with saying Toran "CC Frauded" or upgraded with a fake CC, personally i dont believe, mabye its just me

but when you apply for a subscription, then cancel it, then the error you get is "Credit Card Fraud"

Regardless, hope to see GP in the future
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Old 08-13-2003, 04:31 PM
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also with saying Toran "CC Frauded" or upgraded with a fake CC, personally i dont believe, mabye its just me
You don't believe that Torankusu fraudulently upgraded Ghost Pirate's account...?
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Old 08-14-2003, 05:22 AM
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You don't believe that Torankusu fraudulently upgraded Ghost Pirate's account...?
The point i attempted to make is that when a subscruption is canceled the error is "Credit Card Fraud" although the Card could be legit, and be sitting in your wallet as you know

So no, i dont believe that toran used a Fake CC, at all
Why would someone post on forums for so long, get their ip logged all over the place, then try and pull something like that.

I knew toran for a long time i just dont think he is so stupid as to try something like that.

of course, take a minute to read my first point, though.
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Old 08-14-2003, 05:12 PM
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I don't like Torankusu. He scammed like 1 K on G2K1.. I thought i could trust him but I have hated him since. If he gets banned. I will be happy.
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Old 08-14-2003, 05:18 PM
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You don't believe that Torankusu fraudulently upgraded Ghost Pirate's account...?
I do not believe that, indeed.
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Old 08-14-2003, 09:20 PM
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I don't like Torankusu. He scammed like 1 K on G2K1.. I thought i could trust him but I have hated him since. If he gets banned. I will be happy.
He's already been banned...as has been mentioned before...
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Old 08-15-2003, 05:13 AM
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I don't like Torankusu. He scammed like 1 K on G2K1.. I thought i could trust him but I have hated him since. If he gets banned. I will be happy.
Who are you?
I don't recall ever scamming anyone for plat...plat is useless, no reason I need to scam for it.

Anyways, What happened to GP was a mistake, not something I could have prevented, and not something I wish to explain. Let's just say he's not banned anymore, nor am I, but he doesn't wish to come back to graal.

Blame me, hate me, flame me, do whatever you want. Just don't accuse me of things you cannot explain or prove.
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Old 08-15-2003, 05:14 AM
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you were one of my few best friends, i just don't know what to say. now toran is saying you were banned by tseng for bug abuse. i will miss you man, keep in touch.
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*Torankusu *Novice* (Black Holst) (8/6/2003 12:18:04 AM):
no, bug abuse....tseng banned him earlier
*Geno (8/6/2003 12:17:44 AM):
he is banned for CC fraud, he told me himself
*Torankusu *Novice* (Black Holst) (8/6/2003 12:17:25 AM):
not for cc fraud. he's banned for bug abuse.
*Geno (8/6/2003 12:16:28 AM):
well isn't brad banned to :X?


he was talking about brad not ghost o_x my mistake.
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Old 08-15-2003, 05:16 AM
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The point i attempted to make is that when a subscruption is canceled the error is "Credit Card Fraud" although the Card could be legit, and be sitting in your wallet as you know

So no, i dont believe that toran used a Fake CC, at all
Why would someone post on forums for so long, get their ip logged all over the place, then try and pull something like that.

I knew toran for a long time i just dont think he is so stupid as to try something like that.

of course, take a minute to read my first point, though.
Yeah, really. Come on, paypal is secure as hell as is graal. Ghost Pirate was a good friend and I offered to upgrade him, and I did. Paypal had complications and they carried over to my account and poof. The bill for the credit card was paid off and I am hoping that the money will be reimbersed via paypal (bryan holmes), but I am not sure whether or not it will because paypal has reimbersment policies and they don't HAVE to reimberse.
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Old 08-15-2003, 06:59 AM
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Blame me, hate me, flame me, do whatever you want. Just don't accuse me of things you cannot explain or prove.
of course humans natural instinct without rational thought, is to jump to THE WORST thing possibile

of course, i didnt
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Old 08-15-2003, 01:41 PM
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The point i attempted to make is that when a subscruption is canceled the error is "Credit Card Fraud" although the Card could be legit, and be sitting in your wallet as you know
My question was not if it was a fake card; my question was related to it being a fraudulent upgrade. Read next time.

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So no, i dont believe that toran used a Fake CC, at all
Never said he did.

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Why would someone post on forums for so long, get their ip logged all over the place, then try and pull something like that.
Um. What does having your IP logged on the forums have to do with upgrading an account fraudulently?

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I knew toran for a long time i just dont think he is so stupid as to try something like that.
Really? His story has changed no less than twice.

First it was a stolen credit card, and the real owner had cancelled the purchases.

Then it was his dad's credit card, and he (Toran) cancelled the purchases.

Now it's some kind of paypal mix-up? Get your story straight, Torankusu! You're lying in at least two of these three situations!

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of course, take a minute to read my first point, though.
Of course, if you had read my post, or (even better) used your brain, you'd have figured it out.
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Old 08-15-2003, 10:13 PM
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My question was not if it was a fake card; my question was related to it being a fraudulent upgrade. Read next time.
Did, and clearly i didnt believe that either

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Never said he did.
Might as well have, when i said i did not believe he used a fake credit card, your responce was

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You don't believe that Torankusu fraudulently upgraded Ghost Pirate's account...?
So you indicated to me, that you however did believe that toran used a fake cc, unless you were just stating something with no relevance to what i had said. In either case my answer is still no.


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Um. What does having your IP logged on the forums have to do with upgrading an account fraudulently?
Dunno, go figure with CCF being a Federal Offence, that someone would want to leave a trail of themselves (in this case Logged IPs) it might not exactily scream "HEY HERE I AM" since some IPs change. Again here I dont think you picked up on what i was implying.


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Really? His story has changed no less than twice.

First it was a stolen credit card, and the real owner had cancelled the purchases.
Why would someone be so stupid as to actually fully admit they stole a credit card?

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Then it was his dad's credit card, and he (Toran) cancelled the purchases.
This Seems likely, much more then the first I must admit

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Now it's some kind of paypal mix-up?
This would seem the most likely to me, however secure something claims to be, it is mechanical and man-made and therefore is not 100% perfect.

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Get your story straight, Torankusu! You're lying in at least two of these three situations!
Actually ive only seen the last one, where toran explains about the paypal mix-up, i would like to know where these other two storys are you claim exist.


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Old 09-06-2003, 06:56 AM
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i would like to know where these other two storys are you claim exist.
They don't.
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Old 09-06-2003, 08:41 AM
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You revive this thread just to say two words?
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Old 09-13-2003, 04:37 AM
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Yet another flame toran thread, gone from GP's goodbye to, well, Flame Toran...

I would of upgraded GP's acct to gold / vip for no reason, had I throughly read this thread, however, I did not...

Explaination of Credit Cards and optionalbility to pay / not pay...

Payment statement appears on credit card, either it fraudulent (somebody else using your cc code/number) or it be a mistake, your bank has the ability to simply, NOT pay...


Of course the simply application of the brain cells would point out that, Toran either did not have permission to do this, or did not want to do this...

Simply put, there is no proof of CC fraud, so until proven guilty, Innocent by all charges...

Once again, l8r GP, good life.
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Old 09-13-2003, 05:41 AM
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Yet another flame toran thread, gone from GP's goodbye to, well, Flame Toran...

I would of upgraded GP's acct to gold / vip for no reason, had I throughly read this thread, however, I did not...

Explaination of Credit Cards and optionalbility to pay / not pay...

Payment statement appears on credit card, either it fraudulent (somebody else using your cc code/number) or it be a mistake, your bank has the ability to simply, NOT pay...


Of course the simply application of the brain cells would point out that, Toran either did not have permission to do this, or did not want to do this...

Simply put, there is no proof of CC fraud, so until proven guilty, Innocent by all charges...

Once again, l8r GP, good life.

He reserved the charges on his own account, When he upgraded Ghost Pirate and when buying stuff from Koni. What confuses me is where is he getting this credit card to reverse the charges on over and over when he is only 16 or so?
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That makes me pretty mad. I can't stand Toran =/
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Old 10-19-2003, 10:16 AM
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