Gone from Archaic... again - Page 2

Aknts · #16 07-16-2003, 04:02 AM

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Originally posted by MarkB

No...it wasnt his idea...I posted about it and he joined...technically, the only thing he contributed, was the name, the storyline isnt being used, and I did buy the PW, and if he wants to cry about the name, it can be changed

You posted? I believe I posted looking for level makers for something for Stefan and you posted in it and we were friends then so we made a deal. Even you posted in that thread that me and you were starting a server. I thought it would be fun to everything had to go your way which is fine since you bought the server. Also G-Yoshi please please please PM me on aim at WalMrtFan1 I would like to show you some stuff from Archaic to prove that its a exact copy of 2002.

Geno · #17 07-16-2003, 04:05 AM

does it have anything to do with pirates?

i saw alot of the stuff and it looks just like graal kingdoms ;x

draygin · #18 07-16-2003, 04:36 AM

Everything I saw looked like 2k2 stuff some stuff maybe a recolor but still the same. I can understand why spanky would be pissed after seeing that.

CripsTelvecho · #19 07-16-2003, 06:18 AM

Trust me this server is full of crap. They want to be like 2k2, they even hired Jagen to script them a gui like 2k2. Mark also wanted to buy a "Debug" server just to be like 2k2. This server looks exactly like 2k2, its going to have 2 players, mark and his npc server

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G_yoshi · #20 07-16-2003, 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by Aknts

You posted? I believe I posted looking for level makers for something for Stefan and you posted in it and we were friends then so we made a deal. Even you posted in that thread that me and you were starting a server. I thought it would be fun to everything had to go your way which is fine since you bought the server. Also G-Yoshi please please please PM me on aim at WalMrtFan1 I would like to show you some stuff from Archaic to prove that its a exact copy of 2002.

You obviously doubt my ability in recognizing copies and I must say, you're completely wrong. I have gone on and looked. You want to know what I found? Yes, the images look like GK's but only in style. Other than that, they are completely original works. You can just as easily do up images yourself and show me how they are 100% identical. But I have already saved you that effort by checking it on my own and found only similar coloring styles. What's so wrong about that, hmm? Its one thing for them to directly rip the individual images. Its another when its just a style mimic. I see nothing wrong with that.

I rarely defend other servers simply because its none of my concern, but some situations reach an esccalated point where I feel I should try and step in to bring out the truth. Its thier decision to use a similar style. I don't see Stefan complaining so that obviously means its not going to affect GK negatively otherwise he'd put a lot of effort in try to have it changed. Once again, you are too absorbed in your foolish pride. You're not the supreme judge of graphics nor could you be. Just because its not to your liking doesn't mean its bad. Others may be quite taken to it. I think its unfair to exaggerate such an opinion as yours because it doesn't give those who do not know an equal vision of what is being argued over.

"To each his own." Please memorize that phrase and maybe someday you'll learn to at least appreciate what others do and be somewhat capable of setting aside your foolishly high standards.

Aknts · #21 07-16-2003, 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

You obviously doubt my ability in recognizing copies and I must say, you're completely wrong. I have gone on and looked. You want to know what I found? Yes, the images look like GK's but only in style. Other than that, they are completely original works. You can just as easily do up images yourself and show me how they are 100% identical. But I have already saved you that effort by checking it on my own and found only similar coloring styles. What's so wrong about that, hmm? Its one thing for them to directly rip the individual images. Its another when its just a style mimic. I see nothing wrong with that.

I rarely defend other servers simply because its none of my concern, but some situations reach an esccalated point where I feel I should try and step in to bring out the truth. Its thier decision to use a similar style. I don't see Stefan complaining so that obviously means its not going to affect GK negatively otherwise he'd put a lot of effort in try to have it changed. Once again, you are too absorbed in your foolish pride. You're not the supreme judge of graphics nor could you be. Just because its not to your liking doesn't mean its bad. Others may be quite taken to it. I think its unfair to exaggerate such an opinion as yours because it doesn't give those who do not know an equal vision of what is being argued over.

"To each his own." Please memorize that phrase and maybe someday you'll learn to at least appreciate what others do and be somewhat capable of setting aside your foolishly high standards.

I want to show you stuff thats not in the first level...

G_yoshi · #22 07-16-2003, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by Aknts

I want to show you stuff thats not in the first level...

Why don't you post it here, hmm? Let the world see what it is you are talking about. Otherwise, I think you are full of crap.

You tend to exaggerate things to try and get your way.

Aknts · #23 07-16-2003, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

Why don't you post it here, hmm? Let the world see what it is you are talking about. Otherwise, I think you are full of crap.

You tend to exaggerate things to try and get your way.

Why not just let me show you on aim? If you think im full of crap just take me off your list so I ca not talk to you any futher. Im will not post the GFX.

G_yoshi · #24 07-16-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by Aknts

Why not just let me show you on aim? If you think im full of crap just take me off your list so I ca not talk to you any futher. Im will not post the GFX.

Why not? If its so tell-all then you should prove them fake. I still continue to call your bluff. If its not forum appropriate then why would I want to see it? I highly doubt that its inappropriate, though. Besides, its quite possible that whatever you intend to show may have changed. For all I know you could've taken the files you have on your own harddisk and renamed them and called it your proof.

If you're not going to post them here then I don't want to hear about it. Its not worth a private discussion considering the possibility that its big issue which needs public attention. What is it you're afraid of?

Aknts · #25 07-16-2003, 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

Why not? If its so tell-all then you should prove them fake. I still continue to call your bluff. If its not forum appropriate then why would I want to see it? I highly doubt that its inappropriate, though. Besides, its quite possible that whatever you intend to show may have changed. For all I know you could've taken the files you have on your own harddisk and renamed them and called it your proof.

If you're not going to post them here then I don't want to hear about it. Its not worth a private discussion considering the possibility that its big issue which needs public attention. What is it you're afraid of?

Your right.

Tileset: This is not exactly the same but pretty damn close.
http://renegade.fatcake.com/archaic_tiles.png

Bodies: They are in attachment.

Geno · #26 07-16-2003, 07:32 AM

told you they looked alike :0!

G_yoshi · #27 07-16-2003, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by Aknts

Your right.

Tileset: This is not exactly the same but pretty damn close.
http://renegade.fatcake.com/archaic_tiles.png

Bodies: They are in attachment.

Tileset, while having color similarity is different from picso.png. There are probably only a few tiles that are unchanged and one particular block that was run through a filter (sand), but other than that I don't see it as being 100% GK. Also, have you ever stopped to consider the fact that they may still be working on it? What you have is probably not final.

As for the arms. I didn't actually see those online despite the fact that I have them in my webgifs folder. Again, its probably a dummy image for the time being. Hell, I'm still using the default bodies and heads as dummy images until I get some decent character sprites.

See, now that wasn't so hard to post it here was it?

G_yoshi · #28 07-16-2003, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Geno
sucks to be wrong, huh g-yoshi :x?
told you they looked alike :0!

Your judgement is an atrocity, sorry.

Aknts · #29 07-16-2003, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

Tileset, while having color similarity is different from picso.png. There are probably only a few tiles that are unchanged and one particular block that was run through a filter (sand), but other than that I don't see it as being 100% GK. Also, have you ever stopped to consider the fact that they may still be working on it? What you have is probably not final.

As for the arms. I didn't actually see those online despite the fact that I have them in my webgifs folder. Again, its probably a dummy image for the time being. Hell, I'm still using the default bodies and heads as dummy images until I get some decent character sprites.

See, now that wasn't so hard to post it here was it?

I got on and after Mark told me he worked real hard on the bodies I go and look and there just copies not till after I showed people and they bashed him that he told me they were beta. Before he stood by that they made them.

Geno · #30 07-16-2003, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

Your judgement is an atrocity, sorry.

if you hadn't noticed,
the arms are almost exactly the same
then you said they may be just a "dummy" version, but then comes into play the part where spanky said that MarkB claimed he made the bodys.

and if it was a "dummy" version, why would he re-color the underwater part?

i'll tell you why, becuase that is the arms he planned on using, and by making a slight change he could claim them as his own!
and the tile set, the grass and dirt almost look similar to that of graal kingdoms, the point spanks is trying to make is that they ripped off kingdoms, as you can see. THEY DID, so how are you not wrong?