Managers

[Nitkizi]

Originally posted by Spark910


hmm, well im going by what most PWs use as a tag to show their job title. Its up to everyone if they use Asst or Co-. But I have posted in this thread as Co as most people said Co-Manager.

Okay then, whatever floats your boat.

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Nitkizi
Do I get access to special PW Management forums now?

And yes, Asst. Manager makes much more sense. When you say Co-Manager, you are actually saying you are part of something, and I'm not part of Archangel, sooo..

All Co means is more than one meaning you have more than one Manager , it is NOT a step down but equal in power , now an Asst Manger is a step down and below a Manager or Co Manager, Moonie and I choose to both use Manager for less confusion on the players who don't know the differece in the two.



Spark:

I agree with the stability of a PW and a stable Management , Moonie and I have Managed Npulse for 2 years even if I left and that day is coming , nothing will change on Npulse. It won't fall apart nor is there a problem with wild Staff, Npulse has always been very stable as far as Staff under us because we have strick rules and good Staff who do their job well. Sure all PWs have Staff who get fired for corrupt things or not doing their job but this does not happen very often on Npulse because the Staff are choosen very carefully by the Chiefs and Admins in place who take great care to try to get the best person for the job. Nothing is 100% sure but you well know Npulse under us has been very stable.

[zell12]

Arg, having tags 'CoManager' is just wrong, the tags should be Manager, but you would refer to yourselfs, or to two managers as CoManagers. Just as you call all the people you work with CoWorkers.

It is just like saying:
We co-exist on earth.
We exist on earth together.

Also, the Asst. Manager should be just called Admin.

I made an outline of a staff list I suggested to MD (I have been doing suggestions to him throught the time I was "staff" there 2 weeks ago, and he ignored most of it), so I'll show you it all, just because I want to:
*Note: The numbers just mean the max amount.

Manager (2)
Admin (1)
GP Chief (1)
GP (3)
Level Team(4)
Scripts Team (4)
Graphics/Gani Team (4)

Positions like ETs, Webmasters etc... should not have RC, as they just take up space, and RC is for Administration and Development. Not chit-chatting all day about stupid things. Oh, and if you have a Guild Admin or Staff Manager, they are pointless positions and should be deleted. This just shows that the Managers/Admin cannot do their job.

**Managers would have level 4 rights.
Admin would have level 4, except server options, set rights, set folder rights and set folder configuration.
GP Chief would have level 3, but not set flags.
GP would have level 3, but not set flags.
Level Team would have level 2, plus set/view attributes.
Scripts Team would have level 2, plus set/view attributes, and NC.
Graphics/Gani Team would have level 2, plus set/view attributes.


Small team of staff, which is orgnaized and lead by a good, likeable Manager is most efficent.

**Managers are the only ones allowed to have level 4 rights (setrights, setfolder rights, server options and folder options) I believe. I talked to Spark about it while at Bravo, and he agreed. I told him about it because half the staff had full level four, and was the reason behind the server being taken over 2 weeks ago; that and ip ranges were not set, though I did tell Sky and MD to set them.

[Knuckles]

Cybnext is Asst manager of Frolic.

[Pokilty]

yea i agree with all this... a common misconception is that co-manager has any less power than manager. if this was true then it would be sub-manager, but i don't see many sub-managers around either. it should either all be manager or all co-manager, working together.

[Tseng]

Originally posted by Pokilty
yea i agree with all this... a common misconception is that co-manager has any less power than manager. if this was true then it would be sub-manager, but i don't see many sub-managers around either. it should either all be manager or all co-manager, working together.

It seems that the term 'co-manager' has 'evolved' to mean assistant manager; at least that's how the usage is nowadays.

[Python523]

Originally posted by Spark910


We may not be able to fully enforce the rule. But let’s take enigma for example. The manager who took over was a load of rubbish. He didn’t come on, the staffs were in more of a mess, and half of the staff didn't think he should have become manager. If it went through us we would have go opinions on people who the manager wished to become manager, as well as looking what’s best for the server. And maybe Engima wouldn't have been shut down, but it did.

All I have to say to that:

b u l l * * * *

Stop making such accusations when you don't know all of the truth. The new manager was voted in by the current staff by popular vote.
and half of the staff didn't think he should have become manager.
Who did you ask? the longtime staff or some of the newer staff? I use to work on enigma and I talked to my friends from there about this, they all LOVED yang, they supported him 100% the only people who probably didn't were probably afraid warcaptain would fire them if he got back into power (even nem said this)

Did you even bother to figure out why he wasn't on? He had real life problems for about two weeks, he had left people in charge though.

[MadWolf]

Wow, Graal is evolving into an even more communistic society. Go PWA.
In regards to Spark, next time you decide to make a thread about something this big, make sure to read over your post and word everything the way you want it. This way, this kind of stuff doesn't happen. Though, it probaly still would have because you just sugar coated it, but hey!

[Spark910]

Yes all my fault, I should have done as you have said.
And Python, I didnt ASK anyone, about 20 staff CAME to me and asked for a more active person to fit the job. Either way it was taken down for no reason to do with krazie. And I am only going by what I heard, it was being sorted and figured out, but as we were in the middle of about 4 other PWs, we couldn't do Enigma striaght away, and then it was shut down before we could start, and so I am only going off the reports and complaints staff gave me, which could all be invalid.

[Tseng]

Originally posted by Spark910
Yes all my fault, I should have done as you have said.
And Python, I didnt ASK anyone, about 20 staff CAME to me and asked for a more active person to fit the job. Either way it was taken down for no reason to do with krazie. And I am only going by what I heard, it was being sorted and figured out, but as we were in the middle of about 4 other PWs, we couldn't do Enigma striaght away, and then it was shut down before we could start, and so I am only going off the reports and complaints staff gave me, which could all be invalid.

He's Jagen, not "Python". In a thread where he tells you that you are speaking without knowledge, it would be beneficial to your argument to speak with as much knowledge as you can. Otherwise, you just help to prove him right. (And if you didn't know that he was Jagen...well...what can I say, other than you don't know as much as you think you do. And it even says that in his signature, so if you didn't know, you should have anyway?)

[Spark910]

Originally posted by Tseng


He's Jagen, not "Python". In a thread where he tells you that you are speaking without knowledge, it would be beneficial to your argument to speak with as much knowledge as you can. Otherwise, you just help to prove him right. (And if you didn't know that he was Jagen...well...what can I say, other than you don't know as much as you think you do. And it even says that in his signature, so if you didn't know, you should have anyway?)

I am aware of his nickname, simple mistake.

[Python523]

Originally posted by Spark910
Yes all my fault, I should have done as you have said.
And Python, I didnt ASK anyone, about 20 staff CAME to me and asked for a more active person to fit the job. Either way it was taken down for no reason to do with krazie. And I am only going by what I heard, it was being sorted and figured out, but as we were in the middle of about 4 other PWs, we couldn't do Enigma striaght away, and then it was shut down before we could start, and so I am only going off the reports and complaints staff gave me, which could all be invalid.

I can't tell if that sentence is sarcastic or not :X

They had more than 20 staff?? wow x.x, and I never even found out why it was shut down, Stefan doesnt even know and Nemesis denies shutting it down, and sorry if I was sounding like a b*tch to you but you sounded like you didn't even consider that your opinion might not be correct

[Spark910]

Originally posted by Python523


I can't tell if that sentence is sarcastic or not :X

They had more than 20 staff?? wow x.x, and I never even found out why it was shut down, Stefan doesnt even know and Nemesis denies shutting it down, and sorry if I was sounding like a b*tch to you but you sounded like you didn't even consider that your opinion might not be correct

I was probably being a b*tch. Because:

Someone on AIM shouting at me because I cant unban his accnt. And I said I dont have contact with anyone who can, other than Nem, who was busy at the time. And I did ask him, and he didnt know why either, yet he still shouted at me and swore at me because I couldnt do anything:

OMG DUDE IF U WANTED TO THEN U COULD GET IT UNBAN SOME HOW....

I DONT ****IN NO DUDE U COULD ASK AROUND FOR **** LIEK THAT.....YOU JUST DONT..WEATHER YOU DONT LIKE ME,YOU ARE TO LAZY,OR YOU JUST WANT TO BE A ASS

And let me guess if i started to piss you off...bye gettin u really mad the magical fairy would just some how give you powers to ban me?

I had been trying to get something done on Bravo for about 2 hours like the day before, no success.

I know of 2 friends who are probably going to quit graal. I know of some others who are going to quit. =/

And 20 was probably over the top. But about 12-15 had. And yes nobody knows why its down, except for Angel, who has heard that it was because of ''illegal NPCs''

[Soul-Blade]

Hahaha..

Wow, this PWA is a complete JOKE!

Spark makes me laugh. He is also full of crap, which is why everything he is saying is funny. I would love to see him enforce it...

"Wow, shifting ages looks nice *makes thread* shifting ages looks good" *logs on...Soul Blade isn't on chat*
"Shifting ages looks like crap *talks to other guy online*"

Spark, you are not fooling anyone. You talk all flowery and nice, you tell people what they want to hear. I have a chat log on my server, and I saw everything you said...and personally, that second all respect I had for you went down the drain.

This PWA position is not for you, and I'm surprised I am the only one who sees it. A person on PWA must be honest, and you sir, are clearly a liar.

[HoudiniMan]

Be nice Soul. You have given us problems from day one just because you wanted to.