Could you imagine this?

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by finChY

I thought you said you werent good at graphics...also I think I remember you posting or massing something that you were in need of some talented graphics people.

Just to let you know I havent seen Karsh on Graal Bomy Moon in a while,and he only does ganis which are very easy,yet time consuming if you dont know what your doing. He does barley anything on Graal Bomy Moon. And Stefan, he has helped many servers that are in need of help scripting something. When I worked for Era before it was relseased I think him and Delph did alot of the scripting.Stefan will help if needed I think.Dusty makes flat looking stuff,and isnt he the one who made the era-rip tileset for Bravo?

Dusty is much better then you think he is. Yes I am good at graphic and when I find grapihc people they usually are not at my level of detail so I cannot hire them unless they are good like zen or something.

[Aknts]

Originally posted by G_yoshi
Could anyone possibly imagine what kind of playerworld Konidias, Soul-Blade, and myself could make if we teamed together? Remember, this is all purely hypothetical. Nothing of the sort is planned to my knowledge

Well in my opinion
You: Suck (in graphics dont know what else you do)
Soul-Blade: Suck (only in graphics)
Konidias: God
Kaimetsu: >God

[Dude6252000]

Originally posted by finChY
Just to let you know I havent seen Karsh on Graal Bomy Moon in a while,and he only does ganis which are very easy,yet time consuming if you dont know what your doing.

Don't say that. >_< No one understands that yes, it is easy to make a gani, but the quality of the gani is what matters. You could say the same thing about scripting. Scripting is easy, but scripting GOOD isn't. (Unless you're Kai. ^_^;) I just hate it when people say that.

And by the way, I work on 2k1 and 2k2.

[Projectshifter]

LOL, seriously, you guys are all boasting >.<
Donald, you're allright but your'e not that good... Yoshi, I don't even know you =/ ANd Zen, Zen doesn't do regular GFX and he's 1/2 way decent from what I've seen, but I'm still really ticked off @ him...Karsh, he's okay. And SoulBlade, he's a prick... he isn't happy with anything that he isn't a part of and that doesn't put him in the most power.
Then onto Kai, godly scripter, that's all I will say. Normal scripting, I think I might have a slight edge, but throw math in there or horribly complex stuff and I'm lost! LOL, he pwns at that.
---Shifter

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Aknts


Well in my opinion
You: Suck (in graphics dont know what else you do)
Soul-Blade: Suck (only in graphics)
Konidias: God
Kaimetsu: >God

I could care less about what you think of my graphics. Personally I like them and that is all that concerns me. Not only that, but graphics are not my strongest area. In fact, not sure what is really. I'm quite good at levels and some scripting.

And sorry you don't know me PS.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally posted by Projectshifter
Then onto Kai, godly scripter, that's all I will say. Normal scripting, I think I might have a slight edge

Sorry Shifter, but no. I will beat you on any terrain imaginable. My scripting ability isn't merely a factor of my mathematical knowledge, I'm also extremely good at thinking through solutions and applying logic to problems. I'm just better than you.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Sorry Shifter, but no. I will beat you on any terrain imaginable. My scripting ability isn't merely a factor of my mathematical knowledge, I'm also extremely good at thinking through solutions and applying logic to problems. I'm just better than you.

Obviously if you are good at the more complex things how could you be not so good at the more simple ones?

[Brandon]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


Obviously if you are good at the more complex things how could you be not so good at the more simple ones?

Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Brandon


Albert Einstein couldn't tie his shoes.

-_-

We are talking about scripting here. Tying one's own shoes is different than scripting. ::sigh:: I'll know better next time to be a lot more specific with my statements.

[DragonX]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


-_-

We are talking about scripting here. Tying one's own shoes is different than scripting. ::sigh:: I'll know better next time to be a lot more specific with my statements.

He is correct though. The logic behind Albert Einstein is that he was a very, VERY wise and knowledgeable person in various areas but the fact that he couldn't tie his shoes,which is an easier feat. than calculus, etc. is unbelievable, although he was very smart, there are just some things he cannot do even though tying shoes is much easier than constructing ideas of the imagination.

[Soul-Blade]

This was a interesting thread. Until *****s began posting *looks around* ah, there is Project Shifter.

I can smell the fumes of "bias" all over here

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by DragonX


He is correct though. The logic behind Albert Einstein is that he was a very, VERY wise and knowledgeable person in various areas but the fact that he couldn't tie his shoes,which is an easier feat. than calculus, etc. is unbelievable, although he was very smart, there are just some things he cannot do even though tying shoes is much easier than constructing ideas of the imagination.

I was well aware of the rule of exceptions, but as far as scripting is concerned you have to learn the basic stuff before you can continue, not the other way around. So to say that Kai is weak in simple scripts is a rather foolish thing to say

[Cynicism]

As is such, people can't just imagine what good could come out of a team of talented people, yet, people just have to look at it through pessimistic eyes. Anything is possible, even in the, and need I point out hypothetical scenerio that G_Yoshi pointed out. Hypothetical nothing more. I don't think he was trying in any way to say he was a badass, or boast his skills. But anyway, I don't think many of you could ever grasp, or perceive simple concepts such as that.

[Eric_1337]

Originally posted by mhermher
pfft.. i'm not gonna bother reading a word from you donald, not unless you type proper.

Plus, i doubt that you would do any help for the "bestest" playerworld..

Perhaps:

Kai
Koni
Deek
Karsh
+ some lvl maker.. but not you, not soulblade(no offense), not me, not anyone else.

But there would be alot of problems

me + spanky (level makers)

[Soul-Blade]

This thread just shows alot of people trying to get in on "the three" =P. Fact is, the way I see it, is myself, Konidias, and G_Yoshi have equally unique PWs (and I could argue I was the first person to create a PW with a new tileset, new everything =P). Anyway, I haven't seen any PW as unique (maybe Era, but they use old graphics as well...g2230 was beaten to futuristic stuff as well). Oh well, accept it if you wish..or not. I know many will have their own prides to feed .

[Aknts]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


I could care less about what you think of my graphics. Personally I like them and that is all that concerns me. Not only that, but graphics are not my strongest area. In fact, not sure what is really. I'm quite good at levels and some scripting.

And sorry you don't know me PS.

Care to show one of your "good" levels in the levels forums so people who view the levels forums can critique(sp?) it.

[konidias]

My graphics aren't all that amazing, I still have a lot of learning to do. I can't be compared to the top Graal scripters... I'm not even in the same league, lol.

Although I could probably make the scripts I need, it would just be a burden to me, because they would be scripted badly and not as efficiently as they could be. I only script stuff when I know what I'm doing, and I know that it's not going to lag everyone to hell.

As for graphics people... I don't think any of us have truely reached the top of the mountain. Some people are just further along than others, whether it be from natural talent, or practice. I've only been drawing on computers for about 4 years or so, and it wasn't an everyday thing. I know I'm not the best artist/drawer/whatever. I'm definitely not as good at drawing lineart than some people here. Gonmon does terrific drawings, I've seen some darn good pixeling from a few people...

There's always going to be somebody that is better than you at something. You can't expect to be the greatest. Some scripter could come out of the blue and pick up Graal scripting in a couple months and rival that of Kaimetsu or Stefan's scripting abilities. Some people are just prodigies when it comes to stuff like that.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Aknts



Care to show one of your "good" levels in the levels forums so people who view the levels forums can critique(sp?) it.

Um, why? Its fairly easy to just pop into my PW forum and look around there, ya know. Why should I waste my time doing that?

[davidpsy]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


Um, why? Its fairly easy to just pop into my PW forum and look around there, ya know. Why should I waste my time doing that?

I and probably many others have no idea what your playerworlds forum link is .

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by davidpsy

I and probably many others have no idea what your playerworlds forum link is .

What the?! Dude, you're a *****. You have once again failed to even explore or to observe these forums.

Playerwords -> Doragon Koden

HOW HARD IS THAT?!

[tlf288]

Originally posted by G_yoshi

Playerwords -> Doragon Koden

HOW HARD IS THAT?!

Rather hard when your as incompetent as he is.

[osrs]

You guys just put leet and famous people on your staff list.

Look this:

I,Pokilty,Senkasui and Xaviar for scripts.
I,WandanMan,Tweaker and MysticalDragon for levels design.
Drastic,Zeus and Kenji for Graphics.

We would make a very good playerworld.
A good Staff team that is not famous. ^_~'

[mhermher]

Originally posted by osrs
You guys just put leet and famous people on your staff list.

Look this:

I,Pokilty,Senkasui and Xaviar for scripts.
I,WandanMan,Tweaker and MysticalDragon for levels design.
Drastic,Zeus and Kenji for Graphics.

We would make a very good playerworld.
A good Staff team that is not famous. ^_~'

OR:
Just make a PW for yourself, like i am so you got all the power and safetey.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by tlf288


Rather hard when your as incompetent as he is.

Huh? What are you talking about?

[Aknts]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


Um, why? Its fairly easy to just pop into my PW forum and look around there, ya know. Why should I waste my time doing that?

Ok then I looked at like 2 screenshots you posted and they were not good. If you think you are "good" at levels please post a "good" one.

[Eric_1337]

Originally posted by konidias
My graphics aren't all that amazing, I still have a lot of learning to do. I can't be compared to the top Graal scripters... I'm not even in the same league, lol.

Although I could probably make the scripts I need, it would just be a burden to me, because they would be scripted badly and not as efficiently as they could be. I only script stuff when I know what I'm doing, and I know that it's not going to lag everyone to hell.

As for graphics people... I don't think any of us have truely reached the top of the mountain. Some people are just further along than others, whether it be from natural talent, or practice. I've only been drawing on computers for about 4 years or so, and it wasn't an everyday thing. I know I'm not the best artist/drawer/whatever. I'm definitely not as good at drawing lineart than some people here. Gonmon does terrific drawings, I've seen some darn good pixeling from a few people...

There's always going to be somebody that is better than you at something. You can't expect to be the greatest. Some scripter could come out of the blue and pick up Graal scripting in a couple months and rival that of Kaimetsu or Stefan's scripting abilities. Some people are just prodigies when it comes to stuff like that.

Any very well trained programmer that has already studied C/C++ and java script could pick it up within 3 weeks maximum and match up to a very awesome level.

They'd already master the main functions and understand behond belief how everything works that ties in with their programming abilities.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Aknts


Ok then I looked at like 2 screenshots you posted and they were not good. If you think you are "good" at levels please post a "good" one.

Can't please everyone, so Again, I don't care if you don't like my graphics. I'm very pleased with what I have done and have no intent on changing them.

You're probably just another loser that doesn't like things that aren't "graal-like". Sorry, but I want something different and that is what I'm doing. Like it or not is your business and opinion.

[Aknts]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


Can't please everyone, so Again, I don't care if you don't like my graphics. I'm very pleased with what I have done and have no intent on changing them.

You're probably just another loser that doesn't like things that aren't "graal-like". Sorry, but I want something different and that is what I'm doing. Like it or not is your business and opinion.

Oh your right im the only one that doesn't like your stuff.. Thats why your server was so packed when it was up. I had no problem with you till you made this thread being a bragging idiot. It would be different if people ranked you in the same level as Konidias, Soul-Blade or whoever else you said but you don't..

[Eric_1337]

Originally posted by Aknts


Oh your right im the only one that doesn't like your stuff.. Thats why your server was so packed when it was up. I had no problem with you till you made this thread being a bragging idiot. It would be different if people ranked you in the same level as Konidias, Soul-Blade or whoever else you said but you don't..

I agree... you bragging and thinking your all big and bad when you are far from it, is just *****ic and very unmature. I don't care what anyone says, I never liked your work from what I've seen and probably never will.

Spanky is one of the last remaining level makers that can actually make great levels from the default tileset. I know none of you can say this because you're all rapped up in using tilesets to enhance your levels.

I don't know where you think your at and maybe your graphics are 'alright' but they don't compare to soul-blade's or konidias's graphics.

Bragging just shows how un-proffessional you are =/

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Aknts


Oh your right im the only one that doesn't like your stuff.. Thats why your server was so packed when it was up. I had no problem with you till you made this thread being a bragging idiot. It would be different if people ranked you in the same level as Konidias, Soul-Blade or whoever else you said but you don't..

Huh? What is that supposed to mean? Do you seriously think that I think I'm better than Konidias or Soul-Blade? Please, don't make me laugh. I'm no where near what they can do. I wish I was, but I'm pretty much satisfied with what little skills I have. I think you are completely misinterpreting my intial post. Even as stated by Cyn, I'm not trying to brag. Heck, even when listing names I'm the last in the list and this is on purpose. While I may be promoting my project, I'm putting more emphasis on my main competitors who are Soul-Blade and Konidias.

What is your problem anyway? You're being awefully belligerent when I never even attacked you to begin with. I'm well aware there are more players than just you that are dissatisfied, but guess what? Deal with it! I appreciate your comments, but who's in-charge of this project, you or me? If for some reason you feel you have the leadership role in this then by all means tell me when and how. I'd be simply fascinated to know if I had ever relenquished my project to someone else.

[Eric_1337]

Originally posted by G_yoshi


Huh? What is that supposed to mean? Do you seriously think that I think I'm better than Konidias or Soul-Blade? Please, don't make me laugh. I'm no where near what they can do. I wish I was, but I'm pretty much satisfied with what little skills I have. I think you are completely misinterpreting my intial post. Even as stated by Cyn, I'm not trying to brag. Heck, even when listing names I'm the last in the list and this is on purpose. While I may be promoting my project, I'm putting more emphasis on my main competitors who are Soul-Blade and Konidias.

What is your problem anyway? You're being awefully belligerent when I never even attacked you to begin with. I'm well aware there are more players than just you that are dissatisfied, but guess what? Deal with it! I appreciate your comments, but who's in-charge of this project, you or me? If for some reason you feel you have the leadership role in this then by all means tell me when and how. I'd be simply fascinated to know if I had ever relenquished my project to someone else.

The people that are dissatisfied are the people that would play your server... which is everyone that isn't your friend.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Eric_1337


I agree... you bragging and thinking your all big and bad when you are far from it, is just *****ic and very unmature. I don't care what anyone says, I never liked your work from what I've seen and probably never will.

Spanky is one of the last remaining level makers that can actually make great levels from the default tileset. I know none of you can say this because you're all rapped up in using tilesets to enhance your levels.

I don't know where you think your at and maybe your graphics are 'alright' but they don't compare to soul-blade's or konidias's graphics.

Bragging just shows how un-proffessional you are =/

Woah! Slow down there 'sparky'. You, as well as several others, are reading too far into what I'm saying and extracting these bogus ideas and the like.

Seriously, little to no talent is required to make nice levels. Experience will dictate how well you know when and when not to use particular details in level design. I honestly don't have to prove anything to either of you. I can make just as nice a level with the default trash as anyone else that claims they are somehow "god" in making levels Talk about bragging, huh? Can you guess what I smell? H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-!

But I guess I understand now. You have a ridiculous and unjustified hatred of people that are doing something different than the norm or so it seems. I guess I've broken some taboo by using custom tilesets and images Doesn't make sense, then, why Stefan would even allow developers to have custom tilesets if it so wrong and terrible as you claim it to be.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Eric_1337


The people that are dissatisfied are the people that would play your server... which is everyone that isn't your friend.

lol! Seriously, where do people get these bogus notions? What exactly do you mean by my friends?

What's that I smell? I think I smell a hint of jealousy. I can make a ton of references and such to my "plight". Most recent would be people's overly harsh judgements of Wind Waker when it was in its earlier stages. Hell, I bet there are still people that are complaining (like I am surprised) because they don't like the look.

Get over it! I'd be more than happy to have more servers to compete with that are actually going in the same direction the Soul-Blade, Konidias, and myself are. All I see from the rest is rush jobs. All you care about is your power and that is very pathetic. I'm not in this for power, I'm in this to make something I can be proud of regardless of whether or not it is successful.

Not only that, but neither of you exactly have any kind authority to judge and accuse me as you have.

[Aknts]

Originally posted by G_yoshi

But I guess I understand now. You have a ridiculous and unjustified hatred of people that are doing something different than the norm or so it seems. I guess I've broken some taboo by using custom tilesets and images Doesn't make sense, then, why Stefan would even allow developers to have custom tilesets if it so wrong and terrible as you claim it to be.

It's not wrong and terrible. In fact its great that people try and make new tileset. I don't have hatred against it I love Oasis b/c of the tileset and mainly b/c of Konidias doing it. I have hatred against it when people suck at it and they don't realize they do. Its just like those bad singers on American Idol who think their good.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Aknts


It's not wrong and terrible. In fact its great that people try and make new tileset. I don't have hatred against it I love Oasis b/c of the tileset and mainly b/c of Konidias doing it. I have hatred against it when people suck at it and they don't realize they do. Its just like those bad singers on American Idol who think their good.

Point noted, but do keep in mind, what I have is subject to change at anytime. Terrain set is final, though and I'm glad you like Oasis because Konidias is making it. Good for you No matter how you look at it, its still bias and its your opinion. Why should my personal tastes and opinions have to directly reflect yours? Must have been a new rule passed saying that what I have must reflect what the community wants and is accepteable. Anyone that disagrees automattically nulls the playerworld project.

Do I think I'm good? Obviously I am good enough if I'm getting certain priveledges over the majority. Do I think I'm better than Soul-Blade or Konidias? Absolutely not. I envy them because of thier talents with graphics but not to the point where I come up with some irrational despisement of them. I'm not trying to win points with graphics anyway. That isn't my focus. I do want custom sprites and the like because I'm tired of the default refuse. Its been done to the point where it has been killed. All that happens now is that it just continues to get beaten like a dead horse. Graal has such unlimited potential but very few are willing to approach it. Afraid of leaving thier comfort zone of the default junk and less than adequate NPC scripts.

[Eric_1337]

Originally posted by G_yoshi

Get over it! I'd be more than happy to have more servers to compete with that are actually going in the same direction the Soul-Blade, Konidias, and myself are.

Things like that, don't put your name in the same sentence with them, we all know your no where near them. Why would I be jelous or you? Also, I love new tilesets, I never said they were bad. I don't even know where you got that assumption. Look at my signature, I am working on server that is using new tilesets and images.

Very observant you are.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by Eric_1337


Things like that, don't put your name in the same sentence with them, we all know your no where near them. Why would I be jelous or you? Also, I love new tilesets, I never said they were bad. I don't even know where you got that assumption. Look at my signature, I am working on server that is using new tilesets and images.

Very observant you are.

Riiiiiiiiight. And why can't I? They too have put my name in the same list with thier names in it so why can't I, hmm? And its more than just new tilesets or graphics. New concepts and visions are what I like and that is what I focus on. Despite the three of us have our own methos on playerworld development we do have something in common. That common thing is our vision and our goals. We're not in this for power. I know and already stated (and will repeat again) that I'm in this to make a world that I enjoy. I could easily work for any other server of my choosing if I wanted to, only problem is that it becomes a game of who has the most power and who can get the most. The staff don't love thier server, only thier power and what they can do with it. Gluttons for power and fame, that is all they are and nothing more. I will have minimal staff because I don't want players to directly interact with staff and vice versa unless it is the last resort. Players will have to solve thier own disputes and its thier problem if they cannot come to settlement.

[tlf288]

Originally posted by Eric_1337


Things like that, don't put your name in the same sentence with them, we all know your no where near them.

Don't be so dictatorial. I'm not saying Gregory is better them, but he is certainly on the same level. You shouldn't be so quick to agree with what you read. Try finding out information on your own.

I have personally seen Gregory's work and it is very topnotch. You are obviously speaking without full knowledge of what you are talking about.

[Eric_1337]

Originally posted by tlf288


Don't be so dictatorial. I'm not saying Gregory is better them, but he is certainly on the same level. You shouldn't be so quick to agree with what you read. Try finding out information on your own.

I have personally seen Gregory's work and it is very topnotch. You are obviously speaking without full knowledge of what you are talking about.

I'm saying that he thinks that we are getting all of our nothions of him bragging from just runors or something when he infact brags before our eyes pretty blindly.

Unless everything I have seen isn't his best work then it isn't top notch... It is GOOD, but it's not to their level quit yet.

[Knuckles]

Originally posted by Eric_1337


I'm saying that he thinks that we are getting all of our nothions of him bragging from just runors or something when he infact brags before our eyes pretty blindly.

Unless everything I have seen isn't his best work then it isn't top notch... It is GOOD, but it's not to their level quit yet.

That's your opinion, other people have their's.
...And I hate when people fight over opinions. That's just stupid ^_^.