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Old 05-23-2003, 06:15 AM
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It's still a non-origanal thing to do... using modern day weapons is a sure thing to get people eroused and wanting to play it. Quit frankly using them is a desprate call, the tilesets look a lot alike era's, lloyd saying they weren't right at the begginning kinda through it off. and the TREES ARE FROM WAN! I know they are, unless you got permission or they are STOLEN.


Silly boy... You understand nothing!

Yes, Wan made the trees... But you are forgetting the possibility that Wan could work on the Bravo team...
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Old 05-23-2003, 06:35 AM
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Silly boy... You understand nothing!

Yes, Wan made the trees... But you are forgetting the possibility that Wan could work on the Bravo team...
Considering how he is the manager of Rudora, I hardly think that sunny jim who steals ideas from Era.
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Old 05-23-2003, 07:34 AM
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I don't really think you can call it a "whole new style" when you can log on a playerworld called Era, and see nearly the exact same thing. No you didn't just steal tiles and stuff, but you just remade tiles that look nearly identical to Era's. The house outsides, the insides, the streets, the ideas. It looks like a modified Era.

Really, are you THIS desperate to get players? I mean were you just sitting around one day thinking "Hey Era has a ton of players on, let's clone it but make everything ourselves, therefore we can't be accused of stealing!".

I mean it's obvious this new Bravo was heavily influenced by Era. Now I have nothing against inspiration from other games, but taking the same style and ideas from another GRAAL PLAYERWORLD is just stupid. Do something original for god's sake. There's like thousands of ideas that haven't even been done on Graal, yet everyone churns out the same old crap, or copies of somebody else's work.
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:43 AM
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I agree...what a waste of server space. I'll be glad when the pay thing comes about so crap like this can stay out of Graal.
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Old 05-23-2003, 10:06 PM
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Well we are aware fully of this. We are concluding our discussion on Bravo and will tell you whats what soon.

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I agree...what a waste of server space. I'll be glad when the pay thing comes about so crap like this can stay out of Graal.
You dont pay for the servers. Although im sure they will gladly take your money off you if you want to give it to a Manager =D
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:15 PM
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The PWA is on this already. Some tiles will have to be changed for sure, and the GST is performing intensive scrutiny on the scripts to make sure they weren't stolen or just slightly modified then made for Bravo. Yes, it's a rip, Mystical Dragon even said so, and I won't hesitate to call it a rip either, so don't get offended if I do.

Whatever happened to the Bravo I saw 4-5 months ago? The levels were amazing, the overworld intracate and complex, and you guys just bail out and say that it's attracting no one so you have to restart over for the 10th time (according to brandon). This is not acceptable. Servers like Babylon, Maloria and Doomsday once had no players playing it either, but they didn't redo their overworld every 5 days just to attract players. They made things with their exsisting tools and assets, gained players' trust and loyalty, and look at them now, they are decent worlds.

So what, you'll see 45 players on Bravo from now on, but for how long? Doesn't anyone remember when new servers come out? They usually have 100+ people, then die down after a few days. I would wager quite a bit to say that Bravo's players will drop significantly within a week at the most. Then I guess you guys will wonder what the heck happened, and get to work on making overworld #11. Totally unacceptable.
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:26 PM
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I think it's bullsh*t that this is added when the manager (Brandon) was out of town, he is the HEAD manager and you people put it up without his consent, that shows no loyalty at all.
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:32 PM
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Then I guess you guys will wonder what the heck happened, and get to work on making overworld #11. Totally unacceptable.
Yeah really... Then some new playerworld will come along that attracts a lot of players, and Bravo will follow right behind them and remake their server to look like that one.

You really have to wonder what kind of idiot it takes to go and clone an existing playerworld, just to get players. Like nobody will notice that it's an exact clone.

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Old 05-23-2003, 11:43 PM
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Yeah really... Then some new playerworld will come along that attracts a lot of players, and Bravo will follow right behind them and remake their server to look like that one.

You really have to wonder what kind of idiot it takes to go and clone an existing playerworld, just to get players. Like nobody will notice that it's an exact clone.

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Old 05-23-2003, 11:52 PM
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I don't think Brandon knew when Andor was put up, which was possibly the best Bravo-type server, I don't think he knew when it was returned to Bravo either.
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:52 PM
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Personally with as often as this Server has changed its levels and everything else in it I think it should just be taken down. I mean any server that isnt fully functioning shouldnt be allowed to be up. There should be rules against remaking overworlds at the drop of a hat. If they want to remake the server it should be taken down and then retested this is a big failure for most servers. They have a nice overworld they take it down and replace it with crap that would have never passed playerworld inspections. This current one doesnt even have enough levels to pass a playerworld inspection. A handful of levels? Last I heard the requirment was 250+ levels. Bravo has had its day in the sun and should be taken down before its tainted further. If some one wants to remake it and put it up properly then more power to them but they really need to stop with the crap train that seems to be constantly going through Bravo.

Also fire your Lat's those levels are complete crap an and an abomination. ;x
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Old 05-24-2003, 12:18 AM
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I'm pretty sure some idiotic person like lloyd said it was a great idea or twist or something. I think it's very lame doing what they are doing and they're very unorganized with how they do it, mainly because MD likes to do it his way and doesn't care about what anyone else thinks.
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Old 05-24-2003, 12:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure some idiotic person like lloyd said it was a great idea or twist or something. I think it's very lame doing what they are doing and they're very unorganized with how they do it, mainly because MD likes to do it his way and doesn't care about what anyone else thinks.
Well it seems most of the staff support it, apparently they only want to continue with this 'rip-off' project.
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Old 05-24-2003, 12:43 AM
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Old 05-24-2003, 01:25 AM
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No one worry, I spoke with Aftershock yesterday, and we're working on fixing this.
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