Forked Lightning

[adam]

Originally posted by DragonX


All magic and prayers were actually doubled in damage. Locke, how was it a great step in balancing it when it didn't balance it, it just made mages 2x stronger than people that use weapons! If I get hit by 1 icestorm by a level 1 sorcerer, I lose over 100 HP! That is LUDACRIS, that is not BALANCED. This needs to be fixed.

Who knows, maybe that was a bug. That would be Ludacris. Assuming it really was a level 1 sorcerer. Unless of course he had professional help and weird super powerful items or something.

[Dark-Dragoon]

Magic casters are strong when they have good spells.
Weapon users are strong with speed and good equipment.
Both good in their own way. You don't like getting PK'ed? Go to Peaceful.

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by adam



So your saying... A level 1 mage is supposed to kill all other level 1 players in one hit?

And thats how it's supposed to be?

You are truly insane.

I didn't say that, DX did x.x

[MasterNuke]

DX takes 100 damage from icestorm prolly because he ran around in it... if anyone runs around in the area of any damage spell except bullets... it would deal lots more

[Kaiser2]

what DX and I want is TRUE blance of classes, as warriors get stronger by levelling up, so should mages. As warriors have a "wc" and "damage" stat, mages should have an "MP" stat (Magic Power), and a "PP" stat (Prayer Power) as in if you level in magic or wisdom, you raise MP or PP, respectively.

Edit: oh yeah, MP=greater magic damage
PP= greater prayer damage.

[graaliholic]

Originally posted by Kaiser2
what DX and I want is TRUE blance of classes, as warriors get stronger by levelling up, so should mages. As warriors have a "wc" and "damage" stat, mages should have an "MP" stat (Magic Power), and a "PP" stat (Prayer Power) as in if you level in magic or wisdom, you raise MP or PP, respectively.

Edit: oh yeah, MP=greater magic damage
PP= greater prayer damage.

Please take note that it doesn't cost spell points/grace to swing your sword, but it does to cast spells. Sure at first you don't do much damage or hit things very often, but spellcasters of the same level can get off about 1-10 spells per minute (depending on the spell), then warriors get to about level 10 and do quite well in the dungeons with their 40+ damage swords, whereas spellcasters are still relying on sp/grace (which does go up quite high, although the cost to cast these spells goes up too), and unless you have 10k to burn on some good magic rings, you're not going to be geting off a large amount of spells quickly, especailly after your sp/grace runs out.

[Locke_boy]

Precisely

[Satrek2000]

If I might add - grace has an advantage to magic as you can actively recharge it (pray it up).

[Locke_boy]

I've got to disagree, really. Magic recharges naturally, and you can wear gear that ups your magic regen rate .. there's nothing that ups your grace regen rate (aside from worshipping Brigid).

[Satrek2000]

Okay, a mage's natural regeneration goes up to full, and can be increased, and a priest's only goes up to half and can't be increased - but: priests can pray to raise their grace which I concider faster (from what I saw) and, more important, double their gracevalue. So, normally a priest has only half of what a mage has, but can go to equal in little time and even keep double if "charged."

[graaliholic]

Sorcerers can charge with rune of transferrence.

[Satrek2000]

Every priest has what is necessary to charge - Mages need to find, buy and learn it - I havn't seen it yet...

[Kaiser2]

Originally posted by graaliholic


Please take note that it doesn't cost spell points/grace to swing your sword, but it does to cast spells. Sure at first you don't do much damage or hit things very often, but spellcasters of the same level can get off about 1-10 spells per minute (depending on the spell), then warriors get to about level 10 and do quite well in the dungeons with their 40+ damage swords, whereas spellcasters are still relying on sp/grace (which does go up quite high, although the cost to cast these spells goes up too), and unless you have 10k to burn on some good magic rings, you're not going to be geting off a large amount of spells quickly, especailly after your sp/grace runs out.

Spells, as they are now, can easily kill people, with my thought in mind, it'll make it fair, what you're asking for is basically to make it so mages can kill anyone anyday, you want spells to do more damage? Buy something that attunes to the spell.

[graaliholic]

Originally posted by Kaiser2


Spells, as they are now, can easily kill people, with my thought in mind, it'll make it fair, what you're asking for is basically to make it so mages can kill anyone anyday, you want spells to do more damage? Buy something that attunes to the spell.

I didn't say anything about wanting alot more/infinate SP/grace, I don't even know where you got that idea from. People are complaining about how much damage spells do, and I, from a medium-ish leveled viewpoint of magic (seeing as I am one) that when I go hunting monsters, I constantly have to stop, let my sp/grace regen, then go back out, or cast a spell every 10 seconds to minute, depending on the spell's level. I just wanted all you melee classed players to know that it isn't easy to level as a spellcaster. I sometimes fail a better spell, but does anyone fail a IWD scroll? I didn't think so. The whole point of my post was to inform you that it's not easy being a spellcaster, especially without melee, unless you have quite generous friends willing to give you that expensive ring, or if you're one of those silly players who buy stuff with real money :o