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Old 02-18-2003, 09:39 PM
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I noticed some people only finding out that BM was reset today.

I agree with Koni 100%, you have to be more careful planning what is going to be given out and when.
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Old 02-18-2003, 11:03 PM
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Still, only a l33t few have enough money for auctions and such.
Alot of people didn't even realize it had been reset.
I myself was just waiting for a reset to reupgrade-and hadn't realized it until 2 days ago.
That was too late-there's no way to get enough money to compete that late.
Bomies and houses need to wait to be auctioned, about 2 weeks or so after.
And in this case, I'd say a month.
It's extremely hard to get ANYTHING whatsoever, and most people are too busy trying to just get a sword to save up for a bomy/ph.
Swords are extremely hard to get now, what with needing gold and money being so rare.
The shop prices need to be lowered. The hat prices are good, but the mining and other important tools were forgotten about.
80g is alot to pay for an axe now :/
Though that is a different subject
My point being most people are too busy dealing with over expensive things and hard to get money to even TRY to save up for a bomy.
We need another reset-do it right this time.
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Old 02-19-2003, 05:28 AM
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Two staff apart from Police/FAQ/ET/Auctioneer have bomies, for your information Konidias.
Um, hello? I didn't make any complaint about staff having things. You directly pointed me out for the comment made by somebody else... :|

I agree about the shop thing... tools are still the same price as before, there isn't much change in the economy besides gralats being harder to get (and trust me, they won't stay that way for long).

All you're doing is restarting 2k1 as it was before. 6 months from now everyone will have thousands of gralats and nothing to spend them on but new hats or something. You should have set a money standard for the gralat, so there would be balance. Like for example, 1 gralat = 1 US dollar, then it at least makes sense... I've never seen 50+ dollar fishing bait before.

Not all of the prices are unreasonable... it's just that you've done nothing but make things harder to get now, and the jobs are no funner then they were before.
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Old 02-19-2003, 05:56 AM
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Sorry about that. I get tired a lot of times, when I made that post I think I must have just gotten done auctioning bomies.


And I imagine that if there were such thing as a reusable, everlasting fishbait, it'd cost at least $50.



No offense, but people would take your comments a bit more seriously if you said "more fun" instead of "funner"
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Old 02-19-2003, 06:18 AM
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You should have set a money standard for the gralat, so there would be balance. Like for example, 1 gralat = 1 US dollar, then it at least makes sense... I've never seen 50+ dollar fishing bait before.
I've already suggestied that multiple times, (following the Oasis example <3) but people seem to be of the opnion that I just say things becuase I want to get into a fight. Ho well. :o
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Old 02-19-2003, 07:44 AM
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I agree with both sides of the party, seeing as both of them are right.


Konidias is correct, seeing as the bomies WERE auctioned too early. I have 2 gralats to my name, and its not because I don't work, its because I don't play graal as much anymore. A lot of Graalians have something else to do with their day, such as school, work, or something else. The select few who have nothing to do are lucky, and its not very fair.

On the other hand, resetting again won't do much, seeing as this is just one pety detail, in how many other problems GBM has. by the time is was perfect it would have been reset to many times to count.

I guess my 2 cents is pretty much wait a little bit longer before you auction anything else off.
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Old 02-19-2003, 08:02 AM
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By the way, there was some dumb PKer with the account MrCharles who was constantly trying to kill me for a solid 15 minutes. He would follow me and say "die?" and I was like "no?".
I was wtaching scrubs on kazaa too.

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I dont trap people. Im not the one that puts the H table there =/
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Old 02-19-2003, 08:06 AM
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Konidias is correct, seeing as the bomies WERE auctioned too early. I have 2 gralats to my name, and its not because I don't work, its because I don't play graal as much anymore. A lot of Graalians have something else to do with their day, such as school, work, or something else. The select few who have nothing to do are lucky, and its not very fair.
Now lets look at it this way...

those people without lives and such who live to earn money... will continue to do that untill they are happy. So no matter what, those few people will continue to beat you with money.

Secondly, there is a term in economics which I'd like to point out inflation. In 1000 AD how much do you think a 1x1 foot of metal would cost? Like... half of a penny. Now it'd cost around $15.00

When the economy grows, supply and demand takes shape. when that happens, inflation goes up. Because surpluses of money increases inflation... you cant go "Lets base it off of a $1 bill".
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Old 02-19-2003, 08:30 AM
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I don't quite remember who wrote that only staff have enough for a bomy, but I'd like to disagree with you on that. Us staffers have been pretty busy lately and some of us haven't even had time to earn money. It's been quite a few days since the reset and I still only have 5 gralets to my name.
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Old 02-19-2003, 09:16 AM
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I was up until 4am last night with Vlad mining. Then today I bought Geno's Bomy from him. The hard part is getting up to the mining. Once you get there its not to bad.

In my opinion the jobs are unbalanced. I fished all week and it took me at least an hour to get 10g. In an hour with mining I could get about a 100g. I would rather fish but not when the prices are so unbalanced.

Also saying all the bomies and player houses have been auctioned off is a major exageration. I think its around 5 bomies or so and 1 or 2 player houses. Now if you look at all the player houses and bomies still available hardly anything has been sold yet. :]

Also as for nothing new. I'm working on new kingdom levels but not uploading them until all of them are done. I spent most of today working on orc's becase we only had 2 levels will make a couple more then I'll start on Inra.
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Old 02-19-2003, 12:21 PM
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Now lets look at it this way...

those people without lives and such who live to earn money... will continue to do that untill they are happy. So no matter what, those few people will continue to beat you with money.

This is exactly WHY I posted that they should have not auctioned them so early. Perhaps the rich person will pay 300 for a bomy, but not 3000.

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When the economy grows, supply and demand takes shape. when that happens, inflation goes up. Because surpluses of money increases inflation... you cant go "Lets base it off of a $1 bill".

Actually, 1x1 foot piece of sheet metal would cost MORE back then, due to mining technology at the time. But yeah, I see your point. In this case, you would have an everchanging money growth. Each time the dollar bill grew, the gralat would, and vice versa.
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Old 02-19-2003, 03:22 PM
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When the economy grows, supply and demand takes shape. when that happens, inflation goes up. Because surpluses of money increases inflation... you cant go "Lets base it off of a $1 bill".
There is no problem with inflation in the community. But the way GBM does it is terrible. They would raise the hat prices they realese when the community was doing good. But they would ignore other items, such as the pickaxe and hammer. That is the flaw, you can't just change around prices willy-nilly and ignore the old ones.
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Old 02-19-2003, 05:52 PM
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There is no problem with inflation in the community. But the way GBM does it is terrible. They would raise the hat prices they realese when the community was doing good. But they would ignore other items, such as the pickaxe and hammer. That is the flaw, you can't just change around prices willy-nilly and ignore the old ones.
Exactly, Inflation is bad. If they change the hat prices, they cant change the tool prices because then the newbies would be screwed and the server would be a limited player population.

The object of economics is to gain money and then spend it. Personally I think there should be like a small tax on things. Like each week the NPC server goes through the accounts and deducts a certain percentage of gralats that person has (if you have a key then the tax is shorter because you're spending money allready). And after that it can find gralats on the ground (if it cant be done remotely... then you can make an invisible NPC which scouts the whole land and eats stray gralats). There should be a minimum on the taxes too... like 200g, when you get over 200g taxes start to happen.

If you do my tax system... then things will stay at a low price, and you wouldn't have to worry about inflation. Because if you inflate the prices, you have to inflate the wage (meaning if everything goes up +50% Bread Baking would be 2g, pies would be 16g, etc). So then there is just a constant surplus of gralats.

Some of you will come on here, "Nu I werked hard 4 me chasmoneyz. I dun want tax!". Well guess what... in the long run your money is screwed without this system =x. With a tax system you'll have to gain a weekly income or something. Or you can just go under 200g.

If you have something that ADDs to your moneycount, then you need something that SUBTRACTS from your money count. Simple as that.
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Old 02-20-2003, 02:34 AM
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I like the tax system. It would be annoying, but it's logical.
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Old 02-20-2003, 03:07 AM
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The tax sytem is perfect, it's what the old bomy moon was missing.
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