Graal Kingdom's RPing sucks

[aylad]

I can remember when role-playing was done with dice on a tabletop. Now no one wants to RP unless they have a custom-made computer-generated NPC weapon scripted to their exact specifications, named after their computer-generated kingdom, with rewards granted by that same computer for defeating another cg kingdom etc etc.

RPing is what each individual player makes it. Lack of RP is not the fault of the server, it is the fault of each and every individual player. When I'm on tag (with some exceptions which I try to correct), I role-play. I ignore people who don't RP. I interact with those who do. And I enjoy the RP experience. I don't need massive server changes; I only need intelligence, personal willpower (or self-reliance), and discretion.

[_0AfTeRsHoCk0_]

Originally posted by aylad
I can remember when role-playing was done with dice on a tabletop. Now no one wants to RP unless they have a custom-made computer-generated NPC weapon scripted to their exact specifications, named after their computer-generated kingdom, with rewards granted by that same computer for defeating another cg kingdom etc etc.

If I was someone who added quotes into my sig, it would definately go there.

[brock128]

Originally posted by aylad
I can remember when role-playing was done with dice on a tabletop. Now no one wants to RP unless they have a custom-made computer-generated NPC weapon scripted to their exact specifications, named after their computer-generated kingdom, with rewards granted by that same computer for defeating another cg kingdom etc etc.

I tried to DM many D&D games, none of which sucessful. So now I take D&D online

[Zurkiba]

You say that the Samurai are too strong... but you also stated Astri was a 'super-power'

I'll tell you something... The allaince was so weak it's not even funny. I mean like... if the other three nations played their cards we would've died at the invasion of Samurai.

The power of Dustari, Zormite, Pirates, and Forest combined are overwhelming to the Samurai.

Astri could've been destroyed if Dustari, Zormite, and the Samurai sat and said... "Wow Astri is getting Hostile... maybe we should do something about it". But instead you let me conquer each and every single one of you one by one.
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But anyway... I personally dont like the way 2k2 RPs =x... I enjoy the 2k1 RPing system better because it showed how much skill you had with the sword and with stratagy.

2k2 just shows how much time you have to play on the computer. Sure maybe I can kill someone that is one or maybe two levels above me... but the rest just take a single hit.

Personally... I think the level system should be destroyed... or put some major drawbacks to being a high level.
A drawback could be like... The lower the level, the faster you are (lets say +5)... but the more levels you gain the slower you get.

Your charm could go down too. What is so charming about a 300lb sweaty warrior with buldging muscles that scares you? Nothing.

The ability to learn would go down also. It's a proven fact that a two year old human can learn better and quicker than a ten year old human. So the higher the level... the less the chance to learn something.

Spells would become less frequent the higher you go. This excludes Alchemist, Sorcs, and Priests. But people like Warriors shouldn't need the charm spell... So maybe there could be a drawback to the spells like... 30% of the time it might make your charm negitive.
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That's my two cents and now everyone will be on here going..
"No I've worked..." and blah blah blah. You'll also quote me on how I stated levels dont show skill, they show how much time you have.

But personally I dont care what you think.
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The server is ran by the high levels. Not the kingdom leaders. And that is very bad.
And yet again... I propose that something be done with the level system =x.

Or make RPing go back to a server that is/like Graal 2001. We had the best time RPing on 2k1... RPing on 2k2 is nothing compared to it.

[aylad]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
If I was someone who added quotes into my sig, it would definately go there.

Vote, please.

Thank you, though. But I must admit... *whispers* I never actually played any of the tabletop RPG's... I do it all electronically too

[TeRRi2k]

Originally posted by Zurkiba
Your charm could go down too. What is so charming about a 300lb sweaty warrior with buldging muscles that scares you? Nothing.

Sweaty? Maybe he takes baths by the water and maybe the muscles are used to attract girls XP

and the samurais are too..'violent'...ive seen some of the members talking about attacking other kingdoms for "NO reason" because they are bored and feel like they need to kill someone. also because they're strong so they know only a few will be able to stand a chance.

[MilkyWay0016]

Originally posted by Zurkiba
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But anyway... I personally dont like the way 2k2 RPs =x... I enjoy the 2k1 RPing system better because it showed how much skill you had with the sword and with stratagy.

2k2 just shows how much time you have to play on the computer. Sure maybe I can kill someone that is one or maybe two levels above me... but the rest just take a single hit.

Personally... I think the level system should be destroyed... or put some major drawbacks to being a high level.
A drawback could be like... The lower the level, the faster you are (lets say +5)... but the more levels you gain the slower you get.

Your charm could go down too. What is so charming about a 300lb sweaty warrior with buldging muscles that scares you? Nothing.

Agreed 100% - we need more orinial things to make characters with in RPing. Like desiging your own clothes or something

[TeRRi2k]

Originally posted by MilkyWay0016


Agreed 100% - we need more orinial things to make characters with in RPing. Like desiging your own clothes or something

hmm maybe like, its a certain skill scroll you have to learn for that. after that, you can make and design. Perhaps you can gain personality exp from it. The more you get, the more complex designs you can create.

[MilkyWay0016]

Originally posted by TeRRi2k

hmm maybe like, its a certain skill scroll you have to learn for that. after that, you can make and design. Perhaps you can gain personality exp from it. The more you get, the more complex designs you can create.

Maybe, but for some reason I HATE skill scrolls. I mean, does a blacksmith go: "Hmm... I want to make metal ! Better go read!"

There should be a system where you can pick, say, 3 specific traits for your RP character.

This whole random scroll thing is sort of dumb becuase people can't even pick how they want to RP.

People who want to RP as a singer get mounten climber, etc.
You have to restart 10,000 times just to get something that fits your character, or just make a new character all together.

[Locke_boy]

I think the skill scroll in the beginning should be chosen, not random.

However, I think that the leveling system should stay. There just needs to be a better way to keep the high levels out of the low levels hair.

I'm sure that when the new server comes, a lot of these issues (the more social sorts any way) will work themselves out. I know that once the final server is out, that I will RP 99% of the time.. and I'll try to (( keep this to a low. ))

[TeRRi2k]

Yes, the scroll should be chosen. But only some of the ones though I guess, because people would probably choose the ones that are most expensive like shopping scroll so they won't have to pay like 2k for it later on

[Locke_boy]

Originally posted by TeRRi2k
Yes, the scroll should be chosen. But only some of the ones though I guess, because people would probably choose the ones that are most expensive like shopping scroll so they won't have to pay like 2k for it later on

Heh, yes, that's true. Perhaps only the scrolls that are around the average price could be chosen .. but I don't think that useless scrolls should be able to be picked, because new players might make that mistake. Scrolls like punching (what is the point of that scroll?), and thaumaturgy .. although, eventually, some of them will have a use..

[P-a-W-n]

Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
I don't think the environment for role-playing (ironically) is on 2k2

1) People are too strong and are too focused on killing. Those who are weaker and want to role-play cannot, because they'll just get slaughtered

2) It's still a bit too awkward to move around the entire server through boats and walking etc, althought that is improving

Hell, I sure want to role-play on 2k2, but I'm only about 10 levels weaker than the average guy, who can rip me in half by one hit. How am I supposed to do anything RP related?

get my point?

I totally agree with you, especially on the part that 2k2 is ironically not the best environment for role-playing.

What's the most frequent and almost only interaction that kingdoms have with each other? War.

Now on 2k2, the only way you're going to be able to be victorious in war is if you're the stronger party. So everyone focuses on leveling up to make themselves stronger than the opponent and end up focusing only on this, because you can't go into war with half the exp. of someone else.

Well, news flash, people. There's no way to pass someone else's level, because chances are, the opponent is leveling up just as much as you are. So no matter what, you're always going to be behind someone.

So this proves a problem for those of us who want to roleplay, but are total weaklings. (Take me for example.) If I went into battle and got sliced by someone's sword, I'd die 3 times before hitting the ground. My only option? Burrow somewhere and hide out of site during times of war. Now, since war pretty much the only time I see people roleplaying (besides the random Axel the Seamonster/Demon I used to see on 2k1), it sucks to be me. But since everyone is always concerned about leveling up, wars don't even happen that often like they used to back on 2k1 and most of the time, aren't even caused by people roleplaying.

Just my theory about what's wrong with the RPing on 2k2. I continue to RP with the very very very few of us I see RPing something other than war, but 2k1 is still a better environment for role-play.

[Edit: Woops, I didn't quite finish my post there.]

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by P-a-W-n
2k1 is still a better environment for role-play.

Yes, it's more fun if Your the Karakaze Bandit and you place Sachel Charges on the Zormite Waterfall (and the RP admin makes it explode and the waterfall collapses). And then the Zormites only have three days to get rid of the waterfall or they'll die.

So they scale the mountain and start to use their pickaxes and shovels and hammers to try and break apart the menacing blockade of rocks and dirt whichs threatens their homeland.

Then a raid of Karakaze Bandits rush in and start to wage a war. The Zormite men rush out into battle while the females and children are put on destroying the blockade.

The sealevel around the Zormite Island is starting to lower at an alarming rate and the females and children begin to work at a frantic speed. The sun begins to set and the waterlevel is becoming too low... so low that the fish are starting to burrow into the mud to keep wet.

But to their surprise!, the males return from the battle. They drove off the Karakazes and now they begin their work. And after three long days of work, success! The waterfall begins to flow freely again.

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Now lets look at the 2k2 system of RPing:

The soldiers spent all day in the dugeons gaining insight on how to kill better (levels), but a war between Dustari and Samurai strikes out in a feirce, bloody battle. The soldier rushes home to gather his things and he charges into the battlefield. But because he is of young age (level) he is unable to even gain a slash on the older warriors. He dies in one hit, right there on the ground.

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I'm sorry, but the 2k1 sounds 10x more fun. Because you have to deal with Internal Affairs, External Affairs, Survival, and Economics. On 2k2 you just go kill everyone and conquer the world.

[-Axel-]

Originally posted by P-a-W-n


(besides the random Axel the Seamonster/Demon I used to see on 2k1wrong with the RPing )

You know you loved it.