Illegal or not? - Page 2

Faheria_GP2 · #16 02-06-2002, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Would you like to know the reasonings behind that?

Insulting and arguing isn't going to do anything. It's been stated, so don't get out of hand.

what I'm saying is it's like getting rid of the old showimg king/queen hat on classic, merely because G2K1 now has hats

DeathChill · #17 02-06-2002, 09:06 AM

er it is an original script so I think it should be allowed..It's a loophole and those are nice and legal + it's not using any of the commands that are banned..The commands are banned not the effects

Torankusu · #18 02-06-2002, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill
er it is an original script so I think it should be allowed..It's a loophole and those are nice and legal + it's not using any of the commands that are banned..The commands are banned not the effects

So, if I found everyone's account passwords through a bug(loophole, basically) at the site, I could destroy the accounts completely? After all, it's nice and legal + it's not hacking.

Example: I refresh twenty times and it shows every account and password, etc etc. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Faheria_GP2 · #19 02-06-2002, 09:33 AM

you would be banned from graal for violating the TOS, which basically says "we can ban you for whatever **** we please"

DeathChill · #20 02-06-2002, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
So, if I found everyone's account passwords through a bug(loophole, basically) at the site, I could destroy the accounts completely? After all, it's nice and legal + it's not hacking.

Example: I refresh twenty times and it shows every account and password, etc etc. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Nope nope you could be banned because you're illegally accessing the accounts which you do not own, nothing illegal is really going on here ;p
But it's a g2k1 graphic so bust down on them for that and that's all :P

Torankusu · #21 02-06-2002, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_GP2
you would be banned from graal for violating the TOS, which basically says "we can ban you for whatever **** we please"

That isn't really a violation, considering it's not a specific rule targetting the recieval of passwords, unless used by trojans or virii.

Who are you to determine the punishment anyway?

This is just like the light effects thing. If people were allowed to do this, we'd have to allow them to take screenshots of light effects or whatever (in offline mode on the level) and let them use them as an image online.

Torankusu · #22 02-06-2002, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by DeathChill

Nope nope you could be banned because you're illegally accessing the accounts which you do not own, nothing illegal is really going on here ;p
But it's a g2k1 graphic so bust down on them for that and that's all :P

Even if it was accidental? I mean, It's not like I am hacking or anything. It's just a loophole of a mistake in the staff's part. Etc etc. Just like this damn tile issue.

Essenity · #23 02-06-2002, 10:08 AM

A screen shot of a lighting effect is useless. Completely useless.

To add to that, its also cheating to get use of a command that didnt exist before.

Essenity · #24 02-06-2002, 10:11 AM

You cant event begin to compare that with what we did.

Torankusu · #25 02-06-2002, 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by Essenity
You cant event begin to compare that with what we did.

Or, you cannot begin to compare it.

It was simply screenshot and alteration. It would allow everyone to just screenshot and alter things (script wise) so that they could use it on their free playerworlds.

The light effect example is a fine example, by the way.

Case closed.

Essenity · #26 02-06-2002, 10:21 AM

Thats like compairing pety theft to murder -_-'

Case not closed, its just begun.

Torankusu · #27 02-06-2002, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Essenity
Thats like compairing pety theft to murder -_-'

Case not closed, its just begun.

Actually, crono has chosen to not allow it. Case closed.

Ask Stefan, if you can get ahold of him. I am sure he'll be real fond of the idea that you used graal2001 tiles as "your custom tiles."

Faheria_GP2 · #28 02-06-2002, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Actually, crono has chosen to not allow it. Case closed.

Ask Stefan, if you can get ahold of him. I am sure he'll be real fond of the idea that you used graal2001 tiles as "your custom tiles."

these are g2k1 tiles? well, I suppose that changes things

it's not like I play that crap anyways :o

royce · #29 02-06-2002, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Actually, crono has chosen to not allow it. Case closed.

Ask Stefan, if you can get ahold of him. I am sure he'll be real fond of the idea that you used graal2001 tiles as "your custom tiles."

Yah Go Toran! Think I can be a pw checker that is not really on the team but constantly is checking non-p2p playerworlds of illegal stuff?If not then :grrr: .Lol. Anyways, the pw team needs to buckle down and re-inforce these rules for non-p2p a little more strictly. For example, no matter what you you can do it without tiledef2 should not be allowed at all. Etc. Not the greatest example but I hope you get the picture.

Slaktmaster · #30 02-06-2002, 02:41 PM

Why shouldn't free server be allowed to make smart solutions?

First of all, that floor script is very laggy. It doesn't use the addtiledef commands. The addtiledef commands are the commands that are illegal. Not showing images on top of the floor.

Second of all, the Non-P2P "lights". Of course they should be allowed as well! They don't light up the dark like real lights, it's just an image, so I don't see whats wrong with it...