Which playerworlds should be removed?

[LanceMartin]

Originally posted by ZanderX
Shadow Knight still works on Providence last time I checked.

...A waste of his great skills as a scripter. Providence started strong but lack of Ownership ruined it really. um..Faheria is gonna be a kick arse server once it is up.

[Sym2001]

UC is a difficuly matter to discuss. I can see why ppl are pissed off about it, Faheria has been UC for a long time, almost a year if you think about it.

Newworld, I havnt seen any updates on that for a while. I think what Koni said about Andor, and other playerworlds makes sence, but Andor is making a new overworld simply cuz of the fact that the one on now, its quite small. But they are also making other things like events, and quests for the smaller overworld while they work on the larger one. There is more then enough staff there to do that.

Im acually leaving Andor, Im the founder of it. But I really enjoy the creation of playerworlds for my future hobbie is game development. So its great for me on graal. Teaches me alot of things, storylines, game effects etc.

But Koni is right in my opinion. There are alot of playerworlds in the making right now. Its just wich ones are worthy of being online is the key matter. ^_^

[konidias]

Originally posted by Androk2k1
Delete every server there is! Leave just Classic and 2001! Why? Simple! All other servers have nothing original on them! It's either 2001 rip off (Andor, Enigma), or Classic Rip off (N-Plus some other server)! Just make those owners work! I hate servers like that! Wait till peopel actually think what they put up and shut server down if say they don't add anything new at least 1nce per 2 weeks (at least 1 darn level)!

While I have to agree with you on the rip off stuff.. it isn't all rip offs.. lots of original things have been made.. but yea.. stuff like pw's using all of 2k1's hats.. I always thought that was pretty stupid and unoriginal.. It's like "woo look we have all the hats for free, so come play here and you dont have to pay for them"

[omni-m00gle]

1) Providence shouldn't be deleted, because it has unfortunately been going through a rough time in which ShadowKnight ran it, doing nothing but making useless NPCs, and hiring idiotic staff members. Now that Kamuii, Lyndzey, Crono, and myself are in charge, we're making it into the magnificent RolePlaying playerworld it's SUPPOSED to be. It takes time, but I think we deserve the time to do it in, all considering how much time Faheria's gotten, and how much time ToT had before it dissapeared. It just isn't fair to delete Providence. It's not like it's an ugly playerworld like Valikorlia. It has above average levels, even though we're remaking those as well from scratch.

2) Playerworlds that should be deleted are ones that fail to reach a certain "deadline" of quality within a time period. For example, I hate the German servers, because the levels are absoulutely disgusting, and the ones that at least attempt at a translation to english fail miserably by translating something like, "Ahh, you woke up!" in German to "ahh u stod up!1".

Basically, get rid of the ones that are PATHETIC for long periods of time. I know it may sound hypocritical of me to say Providence doesn't deserve to be deleted, but really, as I said, providence isn't an ugly playerworld. It's far nicer than most of the others, save for the obvious ones.

The fact that we've taken the time to hire a new, INTELLIGENT group of staff deserves some credit. Koni, I had a lot of respect for you and your work until you made this thread, which makes me believe that all youre trying to do is complain about how your playerworld should be up as soon as you dish it out, and that all other competition should be deleted. Maybe it's not what you're trying to see, but that sure as hell looks like it.

PS: ShadowKnight still works for us on Providence, as a NAT.

[omni-m00gle]

Originally posted by konidias


While I have to agree with you on the rip off stuff.. it isn't all rip offs.. lots of original things have been made.. but yea.. stuff like pw's using all of 2k1's hats.. I always thought that was pretty stupid and unoriginal.. It's like "woo look we have all the hats for free, so come play here and you dont have to pay for them"

I forgot to mention, my new rules for how Providence is to be kept running consist of "NO STEALING FROM OTHER SERVERS, OR ANYTHING ELSE UNDER THE SUN. DOING SO WILL MAKE MALAK AN ANGRY WALRUS AND HE WILL BITE YOU IN YOUR FACE."

It doesn't say it like THAT, but something near there.

[Frolic_RC2]

Damnit Konidias you are so damn idiotic. You start a PW 2 weeks ago and act like you own everything. You ACTUALLY think Faheria should be taken down, or any other for that matter? Maybe others don't want to ruch and make crap, like it seems you are doing. It takes time to make something good, and until every PW owner learns this, they won't have a good PW. I look forward to seeing your PW, and if it does make it online, one of these polls will be made for it to I'm sure...

Stop worrying about other PWs, and worry about your own.

[Faheria_LAT1]

Originally posted by konidias


Why did you submit it to go online if it wasn't anywhere near finished? Hell, I know dozens of current pw makers that would LOVE to test stuff online like you do.. I don't think it's fair for the UC people and P2P worlds to be getting a free npc server to play around with, and not producing anything to the public for them to enjoy.. it's basically like "here is your npc server to screw around with for as long as you want" Stefan said somewhere that he doesn't want to accept any more UC playerworlds because there are so many already.. you guys are taking up everyone elses testing space.

How long have you been under construction anyway? I thought 2 weeks was the limit..

Hi Mr. Newbie, Faheria was the best P2P PW during the early versions of P2P Graal. It was a big PW full of amzing quests and ideas. After a few months, Shad requested to be Underconstruction, Stefan agreed and here we are, preparing one of the best PW for the players and all you do is complain. We've been UC for more then 6 months, so? We need time and we dont have as much staff as other PWs (mainly because we cant find skilled people).

[omni-m00gle]

Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1


Hi Mr. Newbie, Faheria was the best P2P PW during the early versions of P2P Graal. It was a big PW full of amzing quests and ideas. After a few months, Shad requested to be Underconstruction, Stefan agreed and here we are, preparing one of the best PW for the players and all you do is complain. We've been UC for more then 6 months, so? We need time and we dont have as much staff as other PWs (mainly because we cant find skilled people).

calling someone a newbie doesn't make you look very intelligent in the argument, guy. just makes you about as stupid/silly looking as acid ice or whatever his stupid name is.

[Torankusu]

I like providence's *coughcoughcough* idea. I'd help, if I had the time.

[Jinx]

I agree that Faheria shouldn't rush, they should make a good quality PW.

But there are other servers doing this too, why should you all get to stay up as UC and not them too?

-Jinx

[Faheria_LAT1]

Originally posted by omni-m00gle


calling someone a newbie doesn't make you look very intelligent in the argument, guy. just makes you about as stupid/silly looking as acid ice or whatever his stupid name is.

Hi guy! Do you think I care?
Newbie can mean many things such as: stupid, idiot, new to something, ignorant etc..

In this case, its the ignorant one.

[Sir_Gareth]

Unholy Nation is getting a 80+ or 90+ level addition

[Yakuna2001]

faheria is ridiculas. perhaps u should be taken down until at least an overworld is complete and uploaded, and then u can do any scripts u need after the over world levels are done online, give u a limit of say a month toget scripts sorted, then bam, ur done. and perhaps if all u faheria ***s started working levels and scripts instead of posting on the forums all day and night u would get somthing done faster than u r doing now.. i mean, 9 months whatever it is now, its ridiculas.........

[Faheria_LAT1]

Originally posted by Yakuna2001
faheria is ridiculas. perhaps u should be taken down until at least an overworld is complete and uploaded, and then u can do any scripts u need after the over world levels are done online, give u a limit of say a month toget scripts sorted, then bam, ur done. and perhaps if all u faheria ***s started working levels and scripts instead of posting on the forums all day and night u would get somthing done faster than u r doing now.. i mean, 9 months whatever it is now, its ridiculas.........

Look, say whatever you want, you're not the one in charge here, you dont want a decent playerworld online? (currently there are few.. 1-2.. maybe 3.) Then shad will do as you wish, we will remove Faheria and you will never see it again, you'll stay with the current online crap.

You graalians really have a problem with 'quality' and 'time'.

[Beowulf2]

I personally think that so far, Oasis has very little to show that impresses me. The characters move like terracotta figurines so far. Konidias better fix this, or his server will look mighty NES-ish.

[Oxy-Moron]

Originally posted by Yakuna2001
blahblahblah

Know what an NPC Server is?

Yeah, thanks. Try to understand what you're complaining about before you attempt to make a point.

[Frolic_RC2]

Originally posted by Beowulf2
I personally think that so far, Oasis has very little to show that impresses me. The characters move like terracotta figurines so far. Konidias better fix this, or his server will look mighty NES-ish.

*Agrees Completely*

[Lyndzey]

I can go both ways...

Faheria has had a while, but it will have some great things. I believe Geovanie or something was made Co Owner by Shadow Knight. He might be a good scripter, but adding things like player houses and railroad tracks to a RP server isn't a good idea. I haven't been working on Providence too much lately, but I plan to start.

[Psyker]

Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
Unholy Nation is getting a 80+ or 90+ level addition

Are they good levels? :o

[Faheria_LAT3]

Hey Konidias, did it ever cross your mind that Faheria could have actually been a completed server before we decided to re-do it? -_-

[Faheria_LAT3]

Originally posted by omni-m00gle


calling someone a newbie doesn't make you look very intelligent in the argument, guy. just makes you about as stupid/silly looking as acid ice or whatever his stupid name is.

Referring to someone as "guy" doesn't make you look intelligent either...

"OGM HGI UY!!#!$ WHAt's UP GUY?!@"

[Faheria_GP2]

Originally posted by konidias


Why did you submit it to go online if it wasn't anywhere near finished? Hell, I know dozens of current pw makers that would LOVE to test stuff online like you do.. I don't think it's fair for the UC people and P2P worlds to be getting a free npc server to play around with, and not producing anything to the public for them to enjoy.. it's basically like "here is your npc server to screw around with for as long as you want" Stefan said somewhere that he doesn't want to accept any more UC playerworlds because there are so many already.. you guys are taking up everyone elses testing space.

How long have you been under construction anyway? I thought 2 weeks was the limit..

How many of the other UC pw's are any good might I ask?

[Faheria_GP2]

Originally posted by Psyker

Are they good levels? :o

they were ripped right from Graal 3000, of course they are good!

[Androk2k1]

While I critisize other servers i creat rip off my self =( Oh well...

What I meant befor is that yeah servers do have their original stuff but look at the main idea... it'z either Classic or 2001... name any server that isn't like that (All RP servers look like 2001 RP sectors such as kingdoms)...
Most of Free Servers as you might have noticed already have jobs!

Sorry if I make no sense I am awfuly sick and half of my brains is focused on staying awayk while other half is filled with bacteria!

[LiquidIce00]

Originally posted by konidias


Umm.. read the future murasmune tileset thread.. I complimented that like 1-2 days ago..

I highly doubt I will have to worry about getting my playerworld up in the first place.. I have just become interesting in pw's and noticed how terrible some of them are. I never say my own work is good, and it's so obvious you have something against me.

Plus, I think "ur" just mad "b/c" I think "ur" playerworld sucks, and "ur" just saying all this "b/c" "ur" assuming things about me just "b/c" I'm also making a playerworld.

I also think that you say "ur" because you don't know the difference between you're and your.

buahaha learn "abbreviation" .. anyways..
You make too many threads about how things are bad and crap like that .. If you dislike something you dont need to go and make a big thread saying OH TAKE IT DOWN ITS CRAP. and all that ..
I dont know you really so I dont have nothing against u other then u go talking bad about things.. have some respect

[konidias]

I don't even see where some of you get the idea that I'm being spoiled or something thinking my playerworld is so great already.. When have I said this?

I have a lot, I mean A LOT of work to do on my playerworld.. it's nowhere near being ready to be put online, and it won't be for quite a while. I could care less what any of you think about my pw because you haven't even seen anything but the 1-2 threads I made about it.

Since it seems I'm coming across badly somehow since I'm posting about my pw, I will stop making posts about my playerworld all together. I did not mention my playerworld in this thread, yet you bring it up like it has some importance in this topic.

Faheria staff are so stubborn, when will you just admit that you shouldn't be taking up space.. 6 months? Jesus, I could make an entire playerworld in 6 months BY MYSELF, and it would be a hell of a lot better then what Faheria currently is. I wish you would stop threatening everyone about taking Faheria down and just do it already, you're telling ME that I'm bragging about my pw, and here you are threatening to remove yours like it's the only reason everyone is still playing Graal, just to wait for your pw.

I'm not trying to start arguements, or make enemies.. but when you're so stubborn that you can't even see what I'm trying to say, that is pretty bad. I say one thing, and you bring up something totally irrelevant like somehow you're able to read my mind and you know what I'm thinking. I don't care about the competition, I'm not doing this to kill off competitors and climb to the top. I'm doing this so we can get QUALITY stuff online, and not a server that has some games and jobs and stubborn staff.

[royce]

If a playerworld is UC for a long period of time then it should be taken down. It should be run through testing again anyways if you are spending that time on a big update ya know. Am I wrong or right?

[royce]

Ohh yea and I would like to say Kondias +3.....And Liquid -5....

[konidias]

To be honest, I think Andor would be very cool if they ever got it running well. The berry picking is fun, and the world is designed okay.. but now that they are completely rebuilding the world, they should no longer be active P2P.. it just doesn't make sense.

Faheria has nice stuff, but they have been UC for too long. That is the only gripe I have with them.

Obviously people agree that some pw's need to be taken down, judging by the votes.

[LiquidIce00]

I agree with you that the Faheria staff is pretty stubborn .. at least most of it .. and they are taking a hell of a long time .. but u can talk to them instead of bringing it up on the forums .

[konidias]

Originally posted by LiquidIce00
I agree with you that the Faheria staff is pretty stubborn .. at least most of it .. and they are taking a hell of a long time .. but u can talk to them instead of bringing it up on the forums .

Not like they would give a crap.. they would just ignore me and say "wait for omega faheria" when? 6 MORE months? =/

[Shorty2Dope]

Originally posted by konidias

Faheria staff are so stubborn, when will you just admit that you shouldn't be taking up space.. 6 months? Jesus, I could make an entire playerworld in 6 months BY MYSELF, and it would be a hell of a lot better then what Faheria currently is. I wish you would stop threatening everyone about taking Faheria down and just do it already, you're telling ME that I'm bragging about my pw, and here you are threatening to remove yours like it's the only reason everyone is still playing Graal, just to wait for your pw.

I would have to agree.. I don't have anything against the staff.. But they can be very stubborn and *******s sometimes (but we all can be *points at self*) It’s been UC far to long. It needs to hurry and do something or at least be taken offline until its ready. It’s giving an unfair advantage to everyone else. You say you have great things on Faheria? HELL you better! You have had far to long to make great things with the server and all. I believe Konidias could make a server 2x better himself with the amount of time Faheria has had. If they want to give the people what they want, then get the server done quicker! I hear so many great things about it but I don't see anything

I think all Koni is saying is, there is way too many shitty UC/Non-UC servers taking up Stefan and Unixmads money and not bringing them business. More rules should be placed down to filter out the bad servers. Especially the servers not being played on.

Koni expect all PW owners and staff on that list to hate you or try to argue this. They just don't see it like everyone else I guess..
Not saying there blind and retarded.. I have nothing against any of the staff or owners.. Its just common sense they will stick up for there PW or favorite PWs.

[Shorty2Dope]

Originally posted by konidias
To be honest, I think Andor would be very cool if they ever got it running well. The berry picking is fun, and the world is designed okay.. but now that they are completely rebuilding the world, they should no longer be active P2P.. it just doesn't make sense.

Faheria has nice stuff, but they have been UC for too long. That is the only gripe I have with them.

Obviously people agree that some pw's need to be taken down, judging by the votes.

I think the main one that should stay is Faheria.. I like the things I hear about it.. I just wish they would finish. The rest really need to do some major work quick.. There all extremely boring I go on for 30 minutes and I am bored outa my mind. Nothing that catches or is great.

[Sir_Gareth]

Originally posted by Faheria_GP2


they were ripped right from Graal 3000, of course they are good!

What the hell? Im making all the levels from scratch and they are good, they will have some oraigingal GFX also, there will be events added and some "secret" things on this island which will make it fun,
And I dont rip my levels out of anyone elses*cough* babylon *cough*, i dont even know what the hell graal 3000 is so shut the **** up.

[Faheria_LAT1]

Originally posted by konidias
I could make an entire playerworld in 6 months BY MYSELF, and it would be a hell of a lot better then what Faheria currently is.

Alright, starting today, you have 6 months to complete your Oasis Playerworld, get it online and ready for players. Have fun!

January 24th 2002, 8:32PM (Eastern US Time).

Good luck.

[Frolic_RC2]

Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1


Alright, starting today, you have 6 months to complete your Oasis Playerworld, get it online and ready for players. Have fun!

January 24th 2002, 8:32PM (Eastern US Time).

Good luck.

lol

[Sir_Gareth]

Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1


Alright, starting today, you have 6 months to complete your Oasis Playerworld, get it online and ready for players. Have fun!

January 24th 2002, 8:32PM (Eastern US Time).

Good luck.

Shut the **** up,
no one likes you your a ****y bit*h

you think your all good and **** but you arent shut up, you TRY to be funny but you arent, Kondias is doing a hell of a good job making all of the damn GFX from scratch with almost 0 help.
Shut up your a *** and everyon knows that.

[Faheria_LAT3]

Good playerworlds don't happen overnight. And if you would rather have a little amount finished on a 1024 level map, then you are *****s. We want to release Faheria with a HUGE amount of content, would you rather we release nothing and add stuff as you walk around the plain field of grass struggling to get to some finished levels? Be patient and stop your whining.

And Shorty2Dope, way to suck up.

[Faheria_LAT3]

Originally posted by Sir_Gareth


Shut the **** up,
no one likes you your a ****y bit*h

you think your all good and **** but you arent shut up, you TRY to be funny but you arent, Kondias is doing a hell of a good job making all of the damn GFX from scratch with almost 0 help.
Shut up your a *** and everyon knows that.

Speak for yourself, "*****."

[Faheria_LAT1]

Originally posted by Sir_Gareth


Shut the **** up,
no one likes you your a ****y bit*h

you think your all good and **** but you arent shut up, you TRY to be funny but you arent, Kondias is doing a hell of a good job making all of the damn GFX from scratch with almost 0 help.
Shut up your a *** and everyon knows that.

This coming from an UN Admin
Btw, I am serious, in 6 months at 8:32PM I'm gonna make a thread to show how stupid Konidias is, SoulBlade also agrees, he is an ignorant fool, now please SIR, (ill go slow for your brain) F-A-L-L O-F-F A B-R-I-D-G-E A-N-D D-I-E.