P2P worlds

[BlKnight]

Originally posted by konidias


You're the narrow minded one.. don't you understand that people want to PLAY on a server when it comes out? Make all your scripts offline? How exactly do you script online things, offline? Do you just magically guess that everything is right? Are you so good at scripting online npcs that you can debug your own script by glancing over it? I don't think so. Put in a title screen or start levels? Why, if the server isn't ready it shouldn't be publically playable. I think you're just getting your undies in a knot.. I swear, I'm starting to dislike you more and more each day.. You're so full of yourself it's unbelievable.. I mean, I know I can be ****y sometimes, but geez..

Here's some advice.. stop acting like you're some pro playerworld owner, and stop acting like your server is the greatest thing since sliced bread (because it isn't)

I'm just stating the facts...

Do you know what S T A R T L E V E L S are? It something you put players in while you test your NPCs. You know why you make NPCs offline, such as custom enemies? To impress PW people, show them what you will have when online. To hard to understand? Then oyu have already failed on your PW...

Dislike me more and more? HAHAHA, I could care a less, I for one never liked you. Me ****y in your eyes? No, I dislike lazyness, and that is all which is shown in this thread. So I show the truth. You of course, being one of the lazy people apparantly, choose otherwise obviously...

Why doesn't anyone ACTUALLY work, Faheria is doing a fine example of this. They work, they have nice start levels. They are the only ones intelligently running a PW online right now...

[BlKnight]

Originally posted by Lycia


Thank you, konidias.

Woah and look here, its Lycia. She cheated her way into getting a PW online already...She wouldn't possibly be able to make anything able to get online, yet she gets something anyway. Wow I am annoyed by you. You were probably the reason NewWorld peoples hate me...can't defend yourself, always lies, always does horrible things yet magically is forgiven...

[konidias]

WTF are you talking about.. you're missing the whole point of the thread.. you're reading everything all wrong for crying out loud..

This isn't wanted because people are lazy and don't make things offline, it's for having a correctly running playerworld when the playerworld opens!

Not "let us tinker around online and make all our stuff there and not make anything offline"

It's more like "let us fix the npcs and things we have made offline so that they work properly online, and fix the online npcs we made offline to work properly, without having to open the server to the public and be publically under construction for weeks"

[Lycia]

Originally posted by BlKnight


Woah and look here, its Lycia. She cheated her way into getting a PW online already...She wouldn't possibly be able to make anything able to get online, yet she gets something anyway. Wow I am annoyed by you. You were probably the reason NewWorld peoples hate me...can't defend yourself, always lies, always does horrible things yet magically is forgiven...

Woah, and look here, it's Soul Blade.

X wasn't my server initially. It belonged to Missing Link Merai, who's had the server up nearly a year. He quit the server and gave the server to me. If my material was good enough, yes, it would go up. So, give it up. I don't comprehend your attitude. One day, you apologize to me and we're okay, and the next, you're insulting me again. You should go see a psychiatrist. You're suffering from multiple personalities or something. Besides, you are not New World material.

I am doing a marvelous job defending myself, and I don't always lie. You don't know me, so don't claim to.

On a lighter note, shut the hell up.

[G_yoshi]

I wish I could have had some time to work on stuff privately instead of it being all opened at once

They only time I have players on my PW is when ever I am on and it is usually the unsavory types that want nothing more than power and all they really can do is produce crap or here recently because I have put my JobClass system online...or at least parts of it as I get it finished.

[Warcaptain]

ive read many of the posts, here are my replies:

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Do you know what S T A R T L E V E L S are? It something you put players in while you test your NPCs. You know why you make NPCs offline, such as custom enemies? To impress PW people, show them what you will have when online. To hard to understand? Then oyu have already failed on your PW...
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startlevels were good at first thought, but bad when looking further. I said before, new pw's get the most players when it goes up first, which is when they should have cool stuff up to draw players, but if all they have is start level to contain them, no one will come, they'll say for a sec and leave. but if the staff have had a while to work on something to release, then they will keep some\most of the players that come to check the new world out.

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Originally posted by BlKnight
Wow the lazyness is amazing....

Make all your scripts offline! Impress the PW Testers, show them what you will have...online, just rebuild the scripts. Don't want players to see? Put up start levels! Put in a title screen! So many other options, the one you people are thinking up are narrow minded...

As for what Lycia said, don't mkae me laugh...
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lazyness? EXACTLY! many of the current testing worlds get lazy because of lack of intrest. and cant go down because they are a full pw and follow standard rules.. they lose intrest because of no players coming, they feel no one cares, and probably no ones does.
to fix this, stefan should offer PRIVATE testing worlds where only staff of the p2p world can go and play on. no.. im not talking about things like 2k2 is right now, where you can go on as ghost mode, im talking about how 2k2 was before, on a private server, where no one could see it but people working on it.

my suggestion, is setting up private servers, and makign it so the p2p level required is higher than normal p2p acc's, and then the only people that could be allowed on the worlds are ones with staff accounts, since staff accoutns are allowed on the world they are made for.

but since they are testing worlds, they should be reviewed for progress, so they dont stay up and slack like frolic and andor do. and can be removed if they dont do the right work, this will prevent slacking.

[freddyfox]

Originally posted by BlKnight
Simple as that...stop your complaining, I have waited a year and half trying to get my PW up, and one thing I have learned is stuff you thin is good isn't...you made think your stuff is good, but to others it isn't...work on something long enough, hard enough, with enough to do, then it may be good.[/COLOR]

Sadly, that's what we'd LIKE to think. Old Valikorlia with semi-good levels and plenty of roleplaying had 10 people on, on a good night. This new val with completely crappy levels at the moment?

I've seen 81 people on it.

Difference being, Old Val was PAY.

There's also the fact New Val is in "shiny new toy" stage, and perhaps some people are just burned out from G2K1, but it still holds the same.

[konidias]

Originally posted by freddyfox


Sadly, that's what we'd LIKE to think. Old Valikorlia with semi-good levels and plenty of roleplaying had 10 people on, on a good night. This new val with completely crappy levels at the moment?

I've seen 81 people on it.

Difference being, Old Val was PAY.

There's also the fact New Val is in "shiny new toy" stage, and perhaps some people are just burned out from G2K1, but it still holds the same.

I think it's more the fact that people are bored with 2k1.. no updates, no nothing.. selling and buying the same hats over and over..

Even I went on some other playerworlds.. I haven't played another server other then classic, 2k1, and 2k2, for about 5 months. So I went around on the list to check out whats good.. Sadly I was disappointed.. but I mean, even SOMETHING new, is better then nothing new.

[G_yoshi]

Originally posted by freddyfox


Sadly, that's what we'd LIKE to think. Old Valikorlia with semi-good levels and plenty of roleplaying had 10 people on, on a good night. This new val with completely crappy levels at the moment?

I've seen 81 people on it.

Difference being, Old Val was PAY.

There's also the fact New Val is in "shiny new toy" stage, and perhaps some people are just burned out from G2K1, but it still holds the same.

I've been burned out from Graal2001 since my PW has been up

I was hoping that with the releasing of my JobClass BETA I would attract some potential RPers...but sadly that didn't happen

[Warcaptain]

stefan keeps forcing people to become p2p, but the p2p worlds now stink.
that is because the owners dont have the time that HIS worlds get to build. graal2001 was in the making for months, so was 2k2. and new world has been in the making longer than all of them.

so untill stefan takes action to make p2p worlds better, people will not upgrade their accounts, dispite his efforts to force them to. and making them better doesnt just mean adding commands, because 75% of those commands mean nothing for those building offline, but devise a way for the developers to build using their pw's online, without exposing to public, like all GO made worlds were.
this also would make things better for stefan, because more people will want to make p2p worlds, because they could get it up faster. but also having it private would make sure that they get it made well, to draw more players to p2p. and having P2P World testers, to check for progress, would make sure they arent slacking off and just using up precious pw space.
and all in all making sure that there are better quality p2p servers, which would draw more players to get p2p accts and keep them just the same.

[freddyfox]

Originally posted by konidias


I think it's more the fact that people are bored with 2k1.. no updates, no nothing.. selling and buying the same hats over and over..

That too.

[BlKnight]

Originally posted by Lycia


Woah, and look here, it's Soul Blade.

X wasn't my server initially. It belonged to Missing Link Merai, who's had the server up nearly a year. He quit the server and gave the server to me. If my material was good enough, yes, it would go up. So, give it up. I don't comprehend your attitude. One day, you apologize to me and we're okay, and the next, you're insulting me again. You should go see a psychiatrist. You're suffering from multiple personalities or something. Besides, you are not New World material.

I am doing a marvelous job defending myself, and I don't always lie. You don't know me, so don't claim to.

On a lighter note, shut the hell up.

First, I know X wasn't your server, why do you think you unjustfully got a server? Second, I apologized for a few reasons, mainly because I thought you weren't who you act like. You have proven this wrong with your dirty, lying, disgusting remarks. As for NewWorld material...you think you are? Don't make me laugh, you use PSP plugins and make sigs...what does that have to do with game sprites, tiles, anything like that? NewWorld people don't like me because of how I treat enemies and people I dislike, and since I used to dislike NewWorld, thats basicly all they've seen...so there isn't any point in me trying to get into NewWorld, and if only they could understand the kind of devotion and cooperation I would have they would let me in. But of course, ignorance ruins alot of things...

You think you are doing a good job defending yourself? Just about everything you said is irrevelant, and if it wasn't, was just contridicted by me.

People can't even follow the request of not being lazy...what is this world coming to...

[Kasuagi]

Originally posted by konidias


You're the narrow minded one.. don't you understand that people want to PLAY on a server when it comes out? Make all your scripts offline? How exactly do you script online things, offline? Do you just magically guess that everything is right? Are you so good at scripting online npcs that you can debug your own script by glancing over it? I don't think so. Put in a title screen or start levels? Why, if the server isn't ready it shouldn't be publically playable. I think you're just getting your undies in a knot.. I swear, I'm starting to dislike you more and more each day.. You're so full of yourself it's unbelievable.. I mean, I know I can be ****y sometimes, but geez..

Here's some advice.. stop acting like you're some pro playerworld owner, and stop acting like your server is the greatest thing since sliced bread (because it isn't)

sliced bread, haha, good one!

I agree with both Warcap, Koni, and Lycia...

[Birdbird_0]

i think, that most pw's suck because they just do, I mean, the levels, gfx, and npcs are poorly done and are half rate, and people don't dedicate or organize anything right for pws, maybe some newer ones will proove me rong, but from what I've seen, going on other pw's besides a cupple is just an eye sore and waste of time for me.

if the player world gets up, it should be because it has exceptional work and npcs and gfx, and it should be online for alot of testing and such. But man, I can understand why Stefan doesn't want anymore pw's up. Because they suck.

And pw's are p2p now because graals servers are not free.
you guys should be thankfull that you are able to even create a server on this game, do you see any other games that have a server or two allow player made servers, no, than why do people complain about their crappy pw's.

It just doesn't maek sense to me.

[Birdbird_0]

oh yeah, Soul Blade... isn't you positng on anotehr players account agenst the rules on graal forums? as well as ban evasion?

I don't think you have been unbanned for your rasist remark "Oh no, I've been Jewed" and your ignorant rantings on the bords yet.