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Old 08-07-2016, 02:30 AM
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Obviously someone like you who is getting paid to develop for iOS might not care so much about the alternative, I guess you're a company guy now. Hell, you're not really apart of this community anymore, and one could say that MD/Carlitto isn't either. Yet you guys have an impact on this place, and thus far it's been nothing but negative.

If a plug is going to be pulled, why is it taking so long? I've been on the client, and I'm reading about people attempting to "revive" servers, and they are trying to put in work while the "higher ups" are putting all of their work into iOS.
Little bit personal don't you think? I don't work for Graal.

These are my views based on what I've observed. I won't lie, I'd rather be direct, honest and realistic. I have no input on the PC servers. I never said it's going to stop- these are my opinions; please don't assume these are the actions Graal has decided on what I've said.

I'd be more than happy to help a server move to the iOS platform providing it has a unique game play- such as Kingdoms or Zodiac.
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Old 08-07-2016, 08:17 AM
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Over the past few years I have seen the PC Client as a Development / Staff platform- I guess that's because I'm only focused on the iOS platform. I just don't see the value of developing the PC client- hence why I suggested moving servers to the iOS platform.
I guess my question at this point becomes why would supporting PC Graal as a game be undesirable? You can't just say "Why would management want to support a dead game?" because they are the ones who have effortlessly allowed it to become a dead game.

Facebook / Web is a resource that already exists and doesn't require an unrealistic amount of effort to port PC servers to. As has been proven with Delteria and the original Classic Facebook server it provides a level of exposure to the game far higher than what can currently be achieved with the client. Would it not be interesting to see how much better the client would work as a development platform if and when it is also thriving as a game?

Would it also not be interesting to see how much better PC Graal could work as a development platform if some of the suggestions regarding the website were put in to action? I could go on further with these points.

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I just asked a few of the iEra staff why they don't play PC-
  • Lack of players
  • Boring (possibly due to lack of players)

A few said they would play PC if-
  • it had a server with over 100++ quests to complete, monsters to fight & places to explore.
  • a server dedicated to single player experience

A couple that do play said they play because-
  • their friends play
  • more mature players
These are all valid points, but the questions being asked as of late are not "why don't more people play this dying game?", they are "what are Graal management going to do to stop this game becoming extinct?" or "Are Graal management just waiting to pick off PC servers one at a time until the game becomes extinct?".

At this point they really have nothing to lose in giving control of PC Graal & access to make changes to someone who is passionate about it, but they have plenty to gain from it.

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Old 08-07-2016, 03:47 AM
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rly guys

you know the real solution is to actually complete the whole cross-platform **** by letting people log onto the iservers on the normal client instead of having to use a browser. boom, pc is saved and has more players than it has ever had. wew
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Old 08-07-2016, 04:04 AM
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rly guys

you know the real solution is to actually complete the whole cross-platform **** by letting people log onto the iservers on the normal client instead of having to use a browser. boom, pc is saved and has more players than it has ever had. wew
Solutions that are that simple doesn't suit this complex management. No, Era 3D will def save Graal
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:34 PM
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rly guys

you know the real solution is to actually complete the whole cross-platform **** by letting people log onto the iservers on the normal client instead of having to use a browser. boom, pc is saved and has more players than it has ever had. wew
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Old 08-18-2016, 05:59 AM
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Old 08-07-2016, 08:48 AM
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Lol they are developing Era 3D but won't release Graal the Adventure...lmao what a troll.
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Old 08-07-2016, 09:30 AM
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tbh I've noticed player count decrease after Tim_Rocks stopped logging in
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:44 AM
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Era iPhone, Classic iPhone as well as Zone and Ol' West should be accessible through the Graal Client.

I have recently brought two players from Era PC to iEra for an annual tournament we're hosting and they really enjoyed the server. However, the FB Client as well as era.graalonline.com both have performance issues and weren't made for competitive gameplay - in other words: they're very bad.

I have a hard time understanding the thought process behind not releasing the iServers for the Graal Client. FB-Client is horrible, there are many issues with it. If you've ever played on it, you know what I mean.

That being said, I would really love to see unixmad release the iServers for the Graal Client.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:54 AM
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Era iPhone, Classic iPhone as well as Zone and Ol' West should be accessible through the Graal Client.

I have recently brought two players from Era PC to iEra for an annual tournament we're hosting and they really enjoyed the server. However, the FB Client as well as era.graalonline.com both have performance issues and weren't made for competitive gameplay - in other words: they're very bad.

I have a hard time understanding the thought process behind not releasing the iServers for the Graal Client. FB-Client is horrible, there are many issues with it. If you've ever played on it, you know what I mean.

That being said, I would really love to see unixmad release the iServers for the Graal Client.
I agree with this, but should this happen then Unixmad/Xor/Snk can no longer resort to the excuse of "having 2 Eras/Classics on the same platform might be confusing to players", and should no longer stand in the way of Era + Classic porting to Facebook & Web. This is especially true considering that childish excuses of "we were here first" have previously been lauded about.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:05 AM
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The reason we don't allow PC on iEra is for hacking purposes.
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Old 08-09-2016, 06:41 PM
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Old 08-23-2016, 12:42 AM
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