Spar Tournement 23/09/2012 - Page 2

Felix_Xenophobe · #16 09-16-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vartas

Ya, the "10 playercount mad little sons" will be better than
6 playercount iddlers, btw. pls stop making this idiotish posts...
Stop making bigger fool out of urself.

ha ok brody

i still dont see the point of gold only. the reasons you listed were absolutely retarded. 8 people signed up so far and it's not very likely that 16 people are gonna come up last minute and sign up... gold players having priority over trials if the list was filling up would make sense tho...

NicoX · #17 09-16-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

ha ok brody

i still dont see the point of gold only. the reasons you listed were absolutely retarded. 8 people signed up so far and it's not very likely that 16 people are gonna come up last minute and sign up... gold players having priority over trials if the list was filling up would make sense tho...

Well there is still 1 week to register, so 8 people so far is not bad at all.

Players should be rewarded for buying a Gold Subscription, so Im limiting -my- Events for gold-only. Will host more if that Spar suceeds.

Fulg0reSama · #18 09-17-2012, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Players should be rewarded for buying a Gold Subscription, so Im limiting -my- Events for gold-only. Will host more if that Spar suceeds.

How about the fact they can play Graal Kingdoms with more luxury than a trial/classic account? It seems more like you're turning your events into a gated-community affair, because some people waste their money on a subscription doesn't mean they deserve bratwurst and hamburgers while the rest get kids lunchables and ramen noodles.

NicoX · #19 09-17-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

How about the fact they can play Graal Kingdoms with more luxury than a trial/classic account? It seems more like you're turning your events into a gated-community affair, because some people waste their money on a subscription doesn't mean they deserve bratwurst and hamburgers while the rest get kids lunchables and ramen noodles.

Well usually if you pay more you get better food too, am I wrong? So your comparison doesn't make sense to me really.
There are some high valued prizes to win, Im sure it would worth upgrading 1 month for it, which costs around 3-5 USD.
At the end its the players choice to participate or not. Im not telling someone that they have to join.

Also, please only post here if you have questions to the Event.

Fulg0reSama · #20 09-17-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Well usually if you pay more you get better food too, am I wrong? So your comparison doesn't make sense to me really.
There are some high valued prizes to win, Im sure it would worth upgrading 1 month for it, which costs around 3-5 USD.
At the end its the players choice to participate or not. Im not telling someone that they have to join.

Also, please only post here if you have questions to the Event.

What I'm trying to say is that you're making events restricted to the players and that doesn't really seem fair. Events should be something players are all capable of getting into, otherwise you alienate people from your events.

Okay here's a question, since you asked, why do you want to keep it to gold only? Shouldn't everyone have a chance at the grand prices?

As for the comparison, I'll agree, not really the best comparison made.

NicoX · #21 09-17-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Okay here's a question, since you asked, why do you want to keep it to gold only? Shouldn't everyone have a chance at the grand prices?

Heres a better comparison I guess,

for the Lottery you also pay money to participate to win a grand prize right? Why should someone win a Prize without paying the fee.

And since the Prizes coming out of my own pocket, I would like to see people upgrading, even if its 1 month. Maybe it will bring some life back into the Server, maybe not, I dont know.

Fulg0reSama · #22 09-17-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Heres a better comparison I guess,

for the Lottery you also pay money to participate to win a grand prize right? Why should someone win a Prize without paying the fee.
And since the Prizes coming out of my own pocket, I would like to see people upgrading, even if its 1 month. Maybe it will bring some life back into the Server, maybe not, I dont know.

Allow me to answer your question with one of my own, why should a player have to pay 300 gelats (3.93 USD if google's currency conversion is accurate) a month to pay for what essentially can be done for free on Zodiac? What actual value is there?

NicoX · #23 09-17-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Allow me to answer your question with one of my own, why should a player have to pay 300 gelats (3.93 USD if google's currency conversion is accurate) a month to pay for what essentially can be done for free on Zodiac?

Like I said, nobody has to join and upgrade, up to them. But the Prizes are not just few ECs, so its totally worth it in my opinion.
If someone thinks thats just unfair, then Im sorry.

Fulg0reSama · #24 09-17-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Like I said, nobody has to join and upgrade, up to them. But the Prizes are not just few ECs, so its totally worth it in my opinion.
If someone thinks thats just unfair, then Im sorry.

But you're not here to convince yourself, you're here to convince someone like myself, why would I wish to pay hard earned money for this?
For 5 dollars, I could buy a real scratch off ticket and win a good 20 bucks If I'm lucky enough.

They don't have to join and upgrade, but as someone representing the server for a special event, wouldn't you want to try to encourage us to?

NicoX · #25 09-17-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

But you're not here to convince yourself, you're here to convince someone like myself, why would I wish to pay hard earned money for this?
For 5 dollars, I could buy a real scratch off ticket and win a good 20 bucks If I'm lucky enough.

If you want to win the tourney, to win a Ring of War, which is the literally best Ring availible on GK, you would spend that 4 USD. But since you are not playing GK it could be useless for you and uninteressant, which I also understand. This Event is mostly focussing the older GK players.

I will host more -luck- Events later which are also availible for trials, though.

Fulg0reSama · #26 09-17-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

If you want to win the tourney, to win a Ring of War, which is the literally best Ring availible on GK, you would spend that 4 USD. But since you are not playing GK it could be useless for you and uninteressant, which I also understand. This Event is mostly focussing the older GK players.

I will host more -luck- Events later which are also availible for trials, though.

You're avoiding my question.

Why would I want to pay for this?

NicoX · #27 09-17-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

If you want to win the tourney, to win a Ring of War, which is the literally best Ring availible on GK, you would spend that 4 USD. But since you are not playing GK it could be useless for you and uninteressant, which I also understand. This Event is mostly focussing the older GK players.

Already answered it though.

Fulg0reSama · #28 09-17-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

Already answered it though.

Okay, so let me translate it out of what you've said.

I would pay four dollars for a chance to get an item?
I'd be better off at an auction.

I promise no offense by this statement, but I feel like you're not even trying to intrigue me into why I would want to pay to play.

NicoX · #29 09-17-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Okay, so let me translate it out of what you've said.

I would pay four dollars for a chance to get an item?
I'd be better off at an auction.

I promise no offense by this statement, but I feel like you're not even trying to intrigue me into why I would want to pay to play.

We could now endless argue about it, but the fact is that this Event is exclusive for Gold-Members.
Also trials are hugly handicapped for Spars, I cant balance each fight, would be unfair at some point.

Fulg0reSama · #30 09-17-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX

We could now endless argue about it, but the fact is that this Event is exclusive for Gold-Members.
Also trials are hugly handicapped for Spars, I cant balance each fight, would be unfair at some point.

Well, I know you can't do anything about it yourself, but technically it wouldn't be impossible to make a balance, but that's just trivial semantics.

I'll take my leave on the thread with a simple tip of advice: Work on the pitch for getting players intrigued.

Thanks for giving me some food for thought.