Discipline

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Hiro

if shimmy hires me back after i get back home, then it won't be UN-specific anymore ^___^

Why?

UN's got a lot of work to do if they're ever going shed that 'Graal Wasteland' image.

[Crono]

UN stopped being Graal's ****hole after everyone realized it was the only bit of "Classic" left.

[Shards-Of-Fate]

Honestly. To this, I say, I don't really feel staff tags matter. I've only felt like they have been treated like they were a show off or some kind of accomplishment.

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

This is a change I would like to see on all official worlds, meaning Gold/Classic/Hosted tab servers.

If a player has been disciplined by jailing or banning within the past 2 weeks (I'd be inclined to say even more), they should not be able to use any staff tag that will list them under staff on the playerlist.

Why should someone who has proven extremely recently that they are unable to behave themselves serve as a representative for their server? Players, especially new players who need help the most, are most likely going to contact someone under the Staff section of the playerlist. Why leave them to someone who has demonstrated recently that they cannot behave in a professional manner?

Why were they not removed from the list or why have you given them back their rights/tags?

TLDR; I don't think that the client should dictate players disciplinary actions. Thats what admin are for.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate

Honestly. To this, I say, I don't really feel staff tags matter. I've only felt like they have been treated like they were a show off or some kind of accomplishment.

I feel different. Players, especially new players, will contact someone listed as staff before a regular player with their problems.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

Why?

UN's got a lot of work to do if they're ever going shed that 'Graal Wasteland' image.

because being player-relations staff of any kind on a classic server is fun as hell, especially when you catch staff going rouge/abusing things

i like seeing the managers scurry away

[Shards-Of-Fate]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I feel different. Players, especially new players, will contact someone listed as staff before a regular player with their problems.

Sorry, I don't think this is good enough reason to support your idea.

Why isn't there a ticket system or an email for them to reach? I mean, the only people who are there for the players to contact are PR or FAQ staff. I know most people would rather not be bothered when they are on, because they are usually developing.

[LoneAngelIbesu]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

Why should someone who has proven extremely recently that they are unable to behave themselves serve as a representative for their server? Players, especially new players who need help the most, are most likely going to contact someone under the Staff section of the playerlist. Why leave them to someone who has demonstrated recently that they cannot behave in a professional manner?

If you have complaints about a staff member, tell the manager. If the manager doesn't do anything to your liking, contact a Playerworld Administrator. Servers set up their own disciplinary actions based on their own culture. One-size-fits-all isn't possible, imo. Staff on Valikorlia, for example, rarely use staff tags.

[Shards-Of-Fate]

Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu

If you have complaints about a staff member, tell the manager. If the manager doesn't do anything to your liking, contact a Playerworld Administrator. Servers set up their own disciplinary actions based on their own culture. One-size-fits-all isn't possible, imo. Staff on Valikorlia, for example, rarely use staff tags.

Exactly. Classic Graal Servers have always had such a cloned hierarchy for the last ten years. There's no need for staff tags, I haven't seen many other MMO's in which staff ran around with a tag on pointing them out.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate

Exactly. Classic Graal Servers have always had such a cloned hierarchy for the last ten years. There's no need for staff tags, I haven't seen many other MMO's in which staff ran around with a tag on pointing them out.

FAQs? GPs? Events Team?

[Shards-Of-Fate]

Originally Posted by Hiro

FAQs?

Write better guides, Make clearer gameplay instructions.
Edit-not to say you shouldn't have support staff.

Originally Posted by Hiro

GPs?

Perhaps. I guess I see the need to identify yourself as staff when enforcing the rules of the server. But staff tags aren't the only way of identification.

Originally Posted by Hiro

Events Team?

Why do your events have to be moderated? Script them so that they don't need staff to monitor them. That restricts gameplay to times when staff are online.

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate

Write better guides, Make clearer gameplay instructions.
Edit-not to say you shouldn't have support staff.

players like having a staff member personally show them or explain them things, and other player-staff like being in a position to help others out. having an impersonal guide for gameplay or quests is helpful, but it won't answer all the questions about the server itself

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate

Perhaps. I guess I see the need to identify yourself as staff when enforcing the rules of the server. But staff tags aren't the only way of identification.

true, but they are the easiest

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate

Why do your events have to be moderated? Script them so that they don't need staff to monitor them. That restricts gameplay to times when staff are online.

it's fun to host events. not only that, but an event is a common place area for players to abuse glitches, and in some cases an events needs to have the reason of a staff member there to keep the game going (like that crappy all-out sparring game on UN where players will kill 5 people for rate and then log off to keep it, or those who won't fight each other for long periods of time)

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

This is a change I would like to see on all official worlds, meaning Gold/Classic/Hosted tab servers.

If a player has been disciplined by jailing or banning within the past 2 weeks (I'd be inclined to say even more), they should not be able to use any staff tag that will list them under staff on the playerlist.

Why should someone who has proven extremely recently that they are unable to behave themselves serve as a representative for their server? Players, especially new players who need help the most, are most likely going to contact someone under the Staff section of the playerlist. Why leave them to someone who has demonstrated recently that they cannot behave in a professional manner?

Not the right way to go about things.
You can be jailed or punished for nothing on just about every server, you shouldn't be stopped from doing your job on your working server because of that. And even if it was deliberate misconduct, so what? As long as they do their job properly, what they do elsewhere shouldn't matter imo. But i can see how keeping check of what staff do on other servers would help in perhaps spotting the likely characters to abuse e.g. a scammer on one server, a gp on another.

[adam]

It matters how a staff member acts everywhere o.O Working or not, they still represent the server they work for.

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

As long as they do their job properly, what they do elsewhere shouldn't matter imo.

As long as a policeman does his job by day it doesn't matter if he's a murderer at night.. gotcha

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by Gothika

As long as a policeman does his job by day it doesn't matter if he's a murderer at night.. gotcha

Way to go and compare a Graal staff member acting up on another server with a murdering Cop in real life. You excel in taking things out of context.