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Old 04-19-2010, 10:30 PM
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Just have someone design and machine one for you. That'd be a pretty clear display of passion.
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Just have someone design and machine one for you. That'd be a pretty clear display of passion.
adding on to this, design your own and have someone machine it, Just gonna add this in, Wood can look pretty expensive, My dad makes stuff on the lathe out of expensive wood, but there only like 25$ and there pens..I'm sure there's a kit for mechanical pencils, just a suggestion, or get a solid gold one
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I'd prefer a good old fashioned set of wooden pencils any day. 2B, HB, and 2H is all you need
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Whats the point of a high quality mechanical pencil?
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Old 04-20-2010, 12:46 AM
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oh very nice, thanks still open for more!

unfortunately none of them are 2 mm

salesman, me buying a 500 dollar pencil is the same as others buying a car, a pencil means alot to me
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Old 04-20-2010, 02:39 AM
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I don't know if your trying to be smart.. but that doesn't answer his question.
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I don't know if your trying to be smart.. but that doesn't answer his question.
A pencil means a lot to him, how do you not understand that?
I believe he most likely makes money for his artwork, so to make money he will need high quality tools probably.
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I don't know if your trying to be smart.. but that doesn't answer his question.

I dont think i was being smart, but if you want to go that route... theres 3 answers to this question:

Q."Whats the point of a high quality mechanical pencil?"

a1. me buying a 500 dollar pencil is the same as others buying a car, a pencil means alot to me (assuming "the point" was his personal reason)

a2. Art and Drawing

Different things may be important for artistic drawing and sketching, compared to technical drawing - though some artists prefer drafting pencils. A pencil for sketching is likely to be a more subjective and individual thing, but here are some of the more important considerations...

* Available lead hardnesses: not really anything to do with the pencil as such, but a range of hardnesses can be as important to an artist as a range of widths - maybe more so. Some hardnesses are only available in certain widths (Pilot ENO lead has the widest range), with 0.5mm usually having the best range. If this is important to you, check that you can get the right width of lead for the pencil you're considering, in the hardnesses you want to use.
* Balance: because sketching and drawing is usually done with faster movements than technical drawing, the balance of the pencil is more important. You may only find out by experimenting if you prefer a light or heavy pencil, and if you prefer the weight to be mainly towards the tip, or towards the centre. Try a few pens and pencils you have, to see which feel better balanced in your hand, then work out where the weight of them is concentrated.
* Thick leads: some artists use 0.5mm mechanical pencils, but most prefer thicker leads. Mechanical pencils are only commonly available with 0.9mm leads, but Faber-Castell make some with 1.4mm leads (for the e-Motion), and Pilot make a special artist's pencil, the Croquis, with 3.8mm leads.
* Portability: if you like to be able to sketch anywhere, you need to make sure your pencil is portable enough to be with you when you want it.

For drawing and sketching, you may also want to look at clutch pencils, which are are available with 2mm or thicker leads.
(assuming "the point" is the actual functionality of having a HQ mechanical pencil vs. a little BIC one)

a3. The part that is most likely to pierce your skin (assuming "the point" is the point)


As to the reason why that question was asked in the first place, i feel it was an attempt of one artist to undermine another.
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:03 AM
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I dont think i was being smart, but if you want to go that route... theres 3 answers to this question:

Q."Whats the point of a high quality mechanical pencil?"

a1. me buying a 500 dollar pencil is the same as others buying a car, a pencil means alot to me (assuming "the point" was his personal reason)

a2. Art and Drawing

Different things may be important for artistic drawing and sketching, compared to technical drawing - though some artists prefer drafting pencils. A pencil for sketching is likely to be a more subjective and individual thing, but here are some of the more important considerations...

* Available lead hardnesses: not really anything to do with the pencil as such, but a range of hardnesses can be as important to an artist as a range of widths - maybe more so. Some hardnesses are only available in certain widths (Pilot ENO lead has the widest range), with 0.5mm usually having the best range. If this is important to you, check that you can get the right width of lead for the pencil you're considering, in the hardnesses you want to use.
* Balance: because sketching and drawing is usually done with faster movements than technical drawing, the balance of the pencil is more important. You may only find out by experimenting if you prefer a light or heavy pencil, and if you prefer the weight to be mainly towards the tip, or towards the centre. Try a few pens and pencils you have, to see which feel better balanced in your hand, then work out where the weight of them is concentrated.
* Thick leads: some artists use 0.5mm mechanical pencils, but most prefer thicker leads. Mechanical pencils are only commonly available with 0.9mm leads, but Faber-Castell make some with 1.4mm leads (for the e-Motion), and Pilot make a special artist's pencil, the Croquis, with 3.8mm leads.
* Portability: if you like to be able to sketch anywhere, you need to make sure your pencil is portable enough to be with you when you want it.

For drawing and sketching, you may also want to look at clutch pencils, which are are available with 2mm or thicker leads.
(assuming "the point" is the actual functionality of having a HQ mechanical pencil vs. a little BIC one)

a3. The part that is most likely to pierce your skin (assuming "the point" is the point)


As to the reason why that question was asked in the first place, i feel it was an attempt of one artist to undermine another.
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:14 AM
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As to the reason why that question was asked in the first place, i feel it was an attempt of one artist to undermine another.
Thanks for answering my question, but I was not trying to undermine anyone. I was just wondering what the point is to buying an expensive pencil.
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:27 AM
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Lets put it that way, a pencil that not everyone has gives me a more comfortable feeling when drawing, and it gives me even more motivation to draw with the said pencil, a special feeling of some sorts

Drawing isnt just "drawing" for me...its so much more, im so careful about things a normal guy would never be able to do, the sound of drawing, the contact between lead and paper, its like sex

Hence I need a special pencil for me to enhance that feeling ?

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Lets put it that way, a pencil that not everyone has gives me a more comfortable feeling when drawing, and it gives me even more motivation to draw with the said pencil, a special feeling of some sorts

Drawing isnt just "drawing" for me...its so much more, im so careful about things a normal guy would never be able to do, the sound of drawing, the contact between lead and paper, its like sex

Hence I need a special pencil for me to enhance that feeling ?



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A pencil that not everybody has. If that's all it is, make your own, or find somebody who does custom work. Otherwise it seems very ridiculous to try to find the most desirable pencil and get that one. Why get something everybody else is after if you want something unique?

Also, that's creepy.
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His idea of a mechanical pencil is something you hold and draw with (with some random displays of deeper affection for it and art)

My idea of a mechanical pencil:


Comes with its own pallete, You can erase it with ease! (Especially if you are a rager) and its a popular toy for kids!
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