New Manager

[DutchGuy]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Why are we debating this still if storm is actually doing his job now. Wanted to do caps lock

hes doing his job now till everything goes quiet again, then he leaves for 5 more years, and we're back at the same point.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by DutchGuy

hes doing his job now till everything goes quiet again, then he leaves for 5 more years, and we're back at the same point.

Then we know he will probably be fired if he goes back inactive like he was before.

[BlackSolider]

Hopefully most of us will have moved on before those 5 years pass. Hopefully.

[Kill]

@ Above post:
Keyword: probably.

He won't be fired, give it a rest.

[Bell]

Thanks to all of you who have been patient with this process, it hasn't been an easy decision. After reviewing all the forums and having private discussions with many of you. The decision has been made to appoint Thor and Storm as managers of Classic. Both will have equal responsibility and authority over the server. This will give the server a more visible presence of management to handle all its needs.

We feel that Storm has the ability to still contribute to Classic's improvement if allowed by the players to focus on getting the job done. We feel Thor deserves this opportunity to guarantee full implementation of the work he's been working to achieve. Both have a similar vision to improve the server as well as maintain its Classic feel. Our hope is that the two of them will continue to work closely together to achieve their mutual goal.

Stryker, Ranger and Night are all highly qualified admins that also have the ability to support and improve conditions on the server. I personally would like to thank them for doing their best to hang in there under some very adverse conditions. Its my understanding that once cards are finished and released, DC, who has been Classic's cheerleader and voice of the people will be moving from the GC side to the dev side full time. I'm sure this will also help improve both short term and long term goals.

Case Closed *bangs gavel*

The Playerworld Administration Team

[TESTRETIS]

I object...Oh wait too late.

DarkCloud is mine.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Bell

We feel that Storm has the ability to still contribute to Classic's improvement if allowed by the players to focus on getting the job done. We feel Thor deserves this opportunity to guarantee full implementation of the work he's been working to achieve. Both have a similar vision to improve the server as well as maintain its Classic feel. Our hope is that the two of them will continue to work closely together to achieve their mutual goal.

Ok so what does this actually mean? To me it's a bunch of big words and glittery sentences that don't actually mean much in the end nor does it make a difference.

Storm has had the ability to contribute to Classic's improvement for years now, how is it any different today?

Originally Posted by Bell

Case Closed *bangs gavel*

The Playerworld Administration Team

Your team is awful.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Congratulations Playerworld Administration, you've made it even worse than what it was.

Congratulations Rufus, you don't always know everything.

You know what I notice about a lot of your posts? You post this negative stuff but you don't post any reason why and then you expect people to back up your comment with positive things.

I'm starting to think you're incapable of making a good argument using pure facts for anything.

You guys asked for a review, we gave a review. You weren't happy with just a review, so we took more action. Nobody knows how this will work out until we give it a shot, so what do you say you buckle down and give it a shot before you start whining and complaining again. I really don't believe you're in any position to tell us that we've "made it even worse than it was," you don't know that for sure, and neither do we.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

You know what I notice about a lot of your posts? You post this negative stuff but you don't post any reason why and then you expect people to back up your comment with positive things.

I'm starting to think you're incapable of making a good argument using pure facts for anything.

Right, I'm not the only person who has posted a similar view yet I'm the one looking for "positive things" from my comments? My comment is pretty straight forward, this decision is a joke, and as you don't even play Classic I would have thought you'd at least do some research or actually play the server like the rest of us do. You want facts? Okay.

• Master Storm has been Manager of Classic for four whole years and has been a constant factor in what it has become today.
• In those four years that Master Storm has been Managing, he has posted the same reasoning for not doing his job in the year previous to that, every single year.
• Master Storm gives people a run around with words on inquiring, rather than just getting to the point or actually reaching a resolve.
• Thor has been developing this server for a while now, and he is also a factor in what it has become today, and also what it is not.
• Thor currently has a large amount of staff that are not assigned, have asked for assignments but have received none, and some that have been assigned filler content with no actual purpose.
• Thor is consistently rude and corrupt to people he doesn't like.
• Graal servers that offer little constant gameplay depend upon communities to grow.
• Over the four years that Classic has been under development, the community has heavily degenerated, and without hope and positive change, the community isn't going to improve.
• There is minimal effort being placed into the server development. Once something is called out on having minimal effort placed into it, the development staff always respond with how they "know" it didn't work.
• The Playerworld Administrators have been misinformed.

Now for some opinions. Classic has no culture, the development is targeted at a small minority of players and it has no culture, cohesion, or appropriate MMORPG pacing. Classic needs time, effort, and coordination in order to develop their content. Being out of touch with both current and potential players is really going to get us nowhere. The gameplay offered on Classic never really pioneered the right formula and even though it can, the development team are currently, have always been, and will continue to develop the older content to the same standard and it isn't right. At the same time, it is counter productive to develop a server with a ruined community and the two people who have got Classic to where it is currently are now both Managers? Absolutely ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Nobody knows how this will work out until we give it a shot, so what do you say you buckle down and give it a shot before you start whining and complaining again. I really don't believe you're in any position to tell us that we've "made it even worse than it was," you don't know that for sure, and neither do we.

That is so weak. We have had this administration for years now and we know how these people work. You don't play this server, so you clearly do not understand just how ridiculous this decision is. It's desperation really, and I think the reaction from the Classic players speaks for itself. I had a little faith in me that this server was going to get better, but I can't say the same thing now so congratulations again.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by Rufus

• In those four years that Master Storm has been Managing, he has posted the same reasoning for not doing his job in the year previous to that, every single year.

What reason did he post?

Originally Posted by Rufus

• Master Storm gives people a run around with words on inquiring, rather than just getting to the point or actually reaching a resolve.
• Thor has been developing this server for a while now, and he is also a factor in what it has become today, and also what it is not.

These sounds like opinions.

Originally Posted by Rufus

• Thor currently has a large amount of staff that are not assigned, have asked for assignments but have received none, and some that have been assigned filler content with no actual purpose.

Like whom?

Originally Posted by Rufus

• Thor is consistently rude and corrupt to people he doesn't like.
• Graal servers that offer little constant gameplay depend upon communities to grow.

These sound like opinions, even though I do agree with the second one.

Originally Posted by Rufus

• Over the four years that Classic has been under development, the community has heavily degenerated, and without hope and positive change, the community isn't going to improve.
• There is minimal effort being placed into the server development. Once something is called out on having minimal effort placed into it, the development staff always respond with how they "know" it didn't work.
• The Playerworld Administrators have been misinformed.

Opinion, opinion, opinion.

I understand why you're upset with our decision, and you have good points in your opinions, but you really haven't presented any facts. I'm sure people could disagree with you with the same basis, even if most people won't disagree.

Why don't we see where this thing goes with Thor, if it doesn't go very far, we can review the server again in a few months and take it from there.

I, as well as the other playerworld administrators, will be keeping an eye on Classic now for a while to check up on things and make sure everything is going smoothly.

This may be the end of our decision for now, but it's not the end of Classic.

[DutchGuy]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Congratulations Rufus, you don't always know everything.

You know what I notice about a lot of your posts? You post this negative stuff but you don't post any reason why and then you expect people to back up your comment with positive things.

I'm starting to think you're incapable of making a good argument using pure facts for anything.

You guys asked for a review, we gave a review. You weren't happy with just a review, so we took more action. Nobody knows how this will work out until we give it a shot, so what do you say you buckle down and give it a shot before you start whining and complaining again. I really don't believe you're in any position to tell us that we've "made it even worse than it was," you don't know that for sure, and neither do we.

hey werent u that noob that made that ol west server that never reached a player amount of +5? and now you know what's best for classic?
im laughing my ass off.

[Bell]

Originally Posted by Crono

Ok so what does this actually mean? To me it's a bunch of big words and glittery sentences that don't actually mean much in the end nor does it make a difference.

Storm has had the ability to contribute to Classic's improvement for years now, how is it any different today?

Long story short. Storm gets to prove his Storm2.0 is real, Thor is there if he fails. If he doesn't fail then you have more people to voice your opinions to. You have DC to be your louder voice if he feels it will benefit the server.

My advice to all of you? Be careful what you wish for. You may not like the reality of it in the end.

Originally Posted by Crono

Your team is awful.

Opinion noted and filed. Thank you for your input

[Rufus]

Congratulations Playerworld Administration, you've made it even worse than what it was.

[Luda]

****

[Mark Sir Link]

LOL wut