Suggestion Thread: Let's get down to some specifics.

[Cetellic]

Era has tons of content aside from events, so players can get settled in. As a GC LAT though I'm stuck to events, I can't make content for players outside of events else I would be.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

Era has tons of content aside from events, so players can get settled in. As a GC LAT though I'm stuck to events, I can't make content for players outside of events else I would be.

Apply for (or move to) dev then?

[Cetellic]

LAT was the job I really wanted, I applied for LAT numerous times before I became GC. And I applied to LAT twice after being GC. After that I just assumed I'd never get it, (I barely even got hired on GC from my understanding).

I did get testing rights on xiahou, which have been upgraded a bit, and I am GC LAT now though a sloppy scripter, so I don't think I'd be becoming a dev anytime soon and will make the best out of what I got.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

LAT was the job I really wanted, I applied for LAT numerous times before I became GC. And I applied to LAT twice after being GC. After that I just assumed I'd never get it, (I barely even got hired on GC from my understanding).

I did get testing rights on xiahou, which have been upgraded a bit, and I am GC LAT now though a sloppy scripter, so I don't think I'd be becoming a dev anytime soon and will make the best out of what I got.

if you want to be a dev ask thoror wd , sloppy scripter , but event are fun lol

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

I took it as attempt but fail, moreover how are they attempting but failing to host a variety of events when variety of events ain't a problem.

I say that because the GC team does try to host a variety of events at times. However, I said hosting a variety isn't the problem because you are saying the current GC's are incapable of hosting those events when they really aren't. The events you may refer to are old, and not up with newer age events in which other servers have already shined upon the graal community.

Yeah that does play a factor, I'll let you have that, but that shouldn't skewer you out of hosting a variety of events.

Those are reasons as to why players don't join your idea of a "variety of events".

[quoteThat's not what I think, but since I "seem to think" it or whatever I'll let it go. On the other hand my old-school events and mock-up events worked pretty well. They surely failed in your eyes though, which is fine, everyone has rights to their opinion.[/quote]
I'm not sure about old school events but I usually don't see player participation high in any events, including yours. You can't call a 2-4 player participated old event a successful one.

What I am getting at is that you shouldn't down the current GC team because it partly isn't their fault for why players dont participate. The curriculum of events is getting old and boring on Classic, and players don't see need to play while there are other servers which offer more aesthetics in their events.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Nobody seems to realize Classic's events are outdated. We have had on average 1-2 new events added per year (not counting new levels to current events). New events/events system is really what Classic needs. Reducing ticket count surely will not get many people playing events again, that much for sure.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Gladius, I do realize there are constantly new additions to events. However, I also pointed out that renovations of events doesn't necessarily count as a new event.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

..while there are other servers which offer more aesthetics in their events.

[MysticX2X]

I meant other servers have more functional events than Classic development wise to make them look better.

[Cetellic]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I say that because the GC team does try to host a variety of events at times. However, I said hosting a variety isn't the problem because you are saying the current GC's are incapable of hosting those events when they really aren't.The events you may refer to are old, and not up with newer age events in which other servers have already shined upon the graal community.

I never said anything about your abilities or if your capable or not, I said it doesnt happen often. Looking at your line up when you jumped on tag earlier Request+Fortbuilder+CTF, I didn't see the attempt. Recently though I have seen you host Musical Chairs which gets a thumbs up simply because I stopped and wondered "who hosts Musical Chairs these days?"

I'm referring to no specific events at all really, I'm just saying spice things up a bit and try not to be the same old thing. If other GCs are whoring the heck out of an event shy away from it, pickup some other events you dont see too often or be creative and come up with somethin you think would be fun (even if it's not that original).

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Those are reasons as to why players don't join your idea of a "variety of events".

That's coo, but it won't stop me from going out the circle of normally hosted events. I still get players and finish my events.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I'm not sure about old school events but I usually don't see player participation high in any events, including yours. You can't call a 2-4 player participated old event a successful one.

That's cause you're changing the definition of 'successful'. An event can be successful with one player, if it only takes one player to play it. Half the problem is you're switching terms around to mean things which limit down what you can do as a GC - by that logic you Drunken Stupor and Steps Elimination can never be hosted successfully because they can never have more then 4 players, and thus GCs should never host those events. It's a destructive way of thinking.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

What I am getting at is that you shouldn't down the current GC team because it partly isn't their fault for why players dont participate. The curriculum of events is getting old and boring on Classic, and players don't see need to play while there are other servers which offer more aesthetics in their events.

You say the curriculum of events is getting old and boring on Classic, but act as if the GCs are not responsible for that. Night really doesn't limit GCs at all as to what they can host, what style they must use when hosting, ect. ect.

[MysticX2X]

Originally Posted by Cetellic

I never said anything about your abilities or if your capable or not, I said it doesnt happen often. Looking at your line up when you jumped on tag earlier Request+Fortbuilder+CTF, I didn't see the attempt. Recently though I have seen you host Musical Chairs which gets a thumbs up simply because I stopped and wondered "who hosts Musical Chairs these days?"

I attempted a "Make Your Spar" a few days ago and only had 1 person wanting to play (Despite 8-10 ventrues doing their monthly spar tournament. Prolly bad timing). I host musical chairs once in a while to get out of the trend, but then again, that event is really boring if pk isn't on. Maybe it's not in my overall trend to host the unpopular events, but then again, they have reason to be unpopular.

I'm referring to no specific events at all really, I'm just saying spice things up a bit and try not to be the same old thing. If other GCs are whoring the heck out of an event shy away from it, pickup some other events you dont see too often or be creative and come up with somethin you think would be fun (even if it's not that original).

No one simply finds enjoyment from altercations of current events, nor is that innovative, nor do people find the patience for an original event with extensive customary rules.

That's cause you're changing the definition of 'successful'. An event can be successful with one player, if it only takes one player to play it. Half the problem is you're switching terms around to mean things which limit down what you can do as a GC - by that logic you Drunken Stupor and Steps Elimination can never be hosted successfully because they can never have more then 4 players, and thus GCs should never host those events. It's a destructive way of thinking.

Well, not in the sense of limited player events. I was specifically referring to events such as spar tournies, or LMS' of all kinds. A 4 player event on a 30+ server just makes player participation sad, and yet there are so many wanting to apply for GC .

And Drunken Stupor doesn't require a 4 playercount cap. It can go up to 6+ players if there is demand.

You say the curriculum of events is getting old and boring on Classic, but act as if the GCs are not responsible for that. Night really doesn't limit GCs at all as to what they can host, what style they must use when hosting, ect. ect.

But Night doesn't provide up to date resources.

[Cetellic]

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

I attempted a "Make Your Spar" a few days ago and only had 1 person wanting to play (Despite 8-10 ventrues doing their monthly spar tournament. Prolly bad timing). I host musical chairs once in a while to get out of the trend, but then again, that event is really boring if pk isn't on. Maybe it's not in my overall trend to host the unpopular events, but then again, they have reason to be unpopular.

Yeah if they're doing their monthly you expect them to play, you gotta be smart about it if you want to get anywhere.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

No one simply finds enjoyment from altercations of current events, nor is that innovative, nor do people find the patience for an original event with extensive customary rules.

I get players, I finish events, and mine are altercations-innotive-and sometimes have extensive customary rules... so where are you at?

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Well, not in the sense of limited player events. I was specifically referring to events such as spar tournies, or LMS' of all kinds. A 4 player event on a 30+ server just makes player participation sad, and yet there are so many wanting to apply for GC .

I've seen Drunken Stupor hosted on a 45 playercount, must've been a pretty BIG mistake, I'm pretty sure that GC got a good talking to by Night over that major crisis!

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

And Drunken Stupor doesn't require a 4 playercount cap. It can go up to 6+ players if there is demand.

Standard Drunken Stupor is four max, take it or leave it.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

But Night doesn't provide up to date resources.

It doesnt take up to date resources so no johns.

Seriously this isn't even worth it - yeah that's right, I'm about to start making complaints that this isn't challenging enough, if you're not going to be level headed about it atleast put up a fight, otherwise I don't see the point.

[BlackSolider]

Both of you shush. GCs are free to host what they want, how they want to. If a GC wants to host an "off-brand" event (different than an event out of the main circle) when he has a right to, though he shouldn't expect the amount of players to be all that great (not saying it can't be.)

If a GC doesn't want to host "off-brand" events that much, he doesn't have to. Should a GC try and switch it up? Definitely. GCs need to find a balance between "main stream" (ctf, fortbuilder, sumo,etc.,) "outside the main circle" (infection, horse race, pk fest, etc.,) and "off-brand" (bush wars, predator and prey, kill the GC, etc.) Obviously the majority of players are going to join "main stream" events more consistently than "off-brand", but a GC has every right to try and host them nonetheless.

Oh and ps: hosting a 4 player event (drunken stupor) on a 45 playercount is disgusting. People barely have a reason to log on right now, and even less of a reason to join events. Try and host events that get as many people as possible who want to play. With that being said, don't try to force events that need X number on a shaky playercount. Currently I find that many events I have to wait for 5 minutes or so to fill the final spot. What happened to the good old days when you'd get 12 pms for a 8 man spar tournament

[Kill]

hosting a 4 player event (drunken stupor) on a 45 playercount is disgusting.

Couldn't agree more.
I think I know who you're talking about who does this, he is not a GC for the right reasons; only for his personal reasons, which is disgusting in itself.

[MysticX2X]

Well clel, my make your spar was an example. It was a 43 player count with only a few willing people busy. That is what I am talking about. As to the altercations point, I haven't seen those fly too well. Are you trying to say that we don't need new events because our current resources are already fine despite people now calling Classic events boring? I hope you're seriously acting stupid because having the same stuff forever and ever just won't make event participation go up. Up to date resources is a must for most servers. Other servers are heavily upgrading their events with a higher caliber, yet Classic remains the same for the past god knows how many years in their events. It's not evens only though.

Gladius, the problem is the players don't join the events that aren't hosted much. I guess you can figure out why they aren't hosted much.

[Cetellic]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

People barely have a reason to log on right now, and even less of a reason to join events. Try and host events that get as many people as possible who want to play.

Yeah... you don't know what you're talking about... I dont know why you even bothered.

Originally Posted by MysticX2X

Are you trying to say that we don't need new events because our current resources are already fine despite people now calling Classic events boring?

*facepalm* I'm officially done here folks, good day.

[MysticX2X]

lmao....I'm sorry that that's the way you come off. You just think that everything is possible on Current Classic to get it back and popping. I'm not sure where you think you could be the savior when every Active GC is trying to get player participation high again.

Quit the talk and take a try and host sometime. That'll shoot you straight