My Unholy Nation Experience

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

Shouldn't this be better than a formal complaint?

It would be if anyone gave a damn to read it.

[kia345]

UN's classy forums are the only ones that matter, these ones are for nerds with no lives, right Warhawk?

[SwimChao]

To be completely honest I took you serious for a little while, and was concerned. I was worried about how you were treated, and I was worried about how the server was being run.

You've all said some things I agree with in this thread. However, now you're all just letting out steam and being pricks because things didn't go your way.

It's no longer about a bigger issue, if it ever even was.

Frankly disgusted even reading this.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by SwimChao

To be completely honest I took you serious for a little while, and was concerned. I was worried about how you were treated, and I was worried about how the server was being run.

You've all said some things I agree with in this thread. However, now you're all just letting out steam and being pricks because things didn't go your way.

It's no longer about a bigger issue, if it ever even was.

Frankly disgusted even reading this.

I understand what you're saying Streety. We're all from different parts of this game, We're definitely not all one big family so it's bound to come to bickering when there's nothing left that's necessary to say in a topic like this

[SwimChao]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

I understand what you're saying Streety. We're all from different parts of this game, We're definitely not all one big family so it's bound to come to bickering when there's nothing left that's necessary to say in a topic like this

It's just a little disheartening for people who actually are trying to do something. You guys are effectively doing the same thing that was done to you, in essence, by dragging this topic on.

On a side note: You can no longer be a zombie on ET center, Events, or spar.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by SwimChao

To be completely honest I took you serious for a little while, and was concerned. I was worried about how you were treated, and I was worried about how the server was being run.

You've all said some things I agree with in this thread. However, now you're all just letting out steam and being pricks because things didn't go your way.

It's no longer about a bigger issue, if it ever even was.

Frankly disgusted even reading this.

lol, so you agreed with it until I critiqued some things you had a hand in? No need to confirm/deny, your neg rep does the job well enough.

[SwimChao]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

lol, so you agreed with it until I critiqued some things you had a hand in?

No, note I haven't made a post in this topic for a long time.

I agreed with the underlying point of the topic. I disagree with you acting like a toddler crying about every tiny thing, and trying to use it as leverage to get your way.

You're just being a jackass.

PS. Fairly certain I haven't given you any reputation points at all. I did rep down nervnat though.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by SwimChao

No, note I haven't made a post in this topic for a long time.

I agreed with the underlying point of the topic. I disagree with you acting like a toddler crying about every tiny thing, and trying to use it as leverage to get your way.

You're just being a jackass.

I'm inclined to believe this since you neg repped me for a post critical of your work, and felt the need to post here and even harass me on player about it.

Are you trying to tell me that your releases were well thought out or planned? Players are still walking on walls and moving backwards as zombies, and obviously no consideration was placed on what these changes might do to Town Center Spar or Events.

I don't know why you are taking it so personally, but I do find it sort of like "acting like a toddler". I know there are many people with a critical eye who are willing to test out abstract details of stuff people are working on, because I ran nearly everything I made by them and had them work on it. I also asked for players to beta test things constantly before release, and as a result, was able to avoid any sort of major game stoppage like this.

You may try to justify what you did as "releasing something to the players" but it feels rushed and not worked very hard on, especially when when they are as game breaking as some of these updates were.




I can't prove it was you, but I know the administrators here have been willing to reveal who left negative rep that is considered rude in the past.

[SwimChao]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

I'm inclined to believe this since you neg repped me for a post critical of your work, and felt the need to post here and even harass me on player about it.

Are you trying to tell me that your releases were well thought out or planned? Players are still walking on walls and moving backwards as zombies, and obviously no consideration was placed on what these changes might do to Town Center Spar or Events.

I don't know why you are taking it so personally, but I do find it sort of like "acting like a toddler". I know there are many people with a critical eye who are willing to test out abstract details of stuff people are working on, because I ran nearly everything I made by them and had them work on it. I also asked for players to beta test things constantly before release, and as a result, was able to avoid any sort of major game stoppage like this.

You may try to justify what you did as "releasing something to the players" but it feels rushed and not worked very hard on, especially when when they are as game breaking as some of these updates were.

Then you can believe that, and I'll give you the negative rep tomorrow to fill the hole.

I never one time argued the facts that there were bugs with the systems. Went about fixing them as best as I could immediately after reading the post, too.

I could sit here and try to poke the verbal knife at you personally too, but none of this has anything to do with what I said.

You're being a jackass in the way you're complaining and crying about everything and trying to use it to your advantage. Like I said, I agreed with the beginning of this topic. Now all I get out of this is a lot of .

That's up to administrators to reveal who negative repped you. But it certainly wasn't me. I'm starting to want to, though.

PS. The BOOnades have also been nerfed down a bit.

[xnervNATx]

same town..same hats..same halloween events, no wonder the playercount is going down

[SwimChao]

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

same town..same hats..same halloween events, no wonder the playercount is going down

Same events? Same hats?

The only recurring thing is the theme of the town, and the Halloween shop where you can buy items from past years. Greatly confused by your comment.

Couldn't you at least make sense and prod at how annoying the flashbang is?

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by SwimChao

Same events? Same hats?

The only recurring thing is the theme of the town, and the Halloween shop where you can buy items from past years. Greatly confused by your comment.

Couldn't you at least make sense and prod at how annoying the flashbang is?

8/10 hats from door quiz were already out from last year i do not see anything new in that.

[Mark Sir Link]

I'm not sure why you're trying to discredit me by calling my posts offensive and saying I'm crying. I would think that's something you get used to after awhile on Graal, since players seem to take issue with just about every update, no?

Hell, I know from experience that players will even frown upon an update widely considered to be useful/good for some personal reason. Snoop413 asked for an option to hide the forum options from what I can only assume was some sort of personal vendetta, considering according to his player flags, he began to use some of the provided options.

However, I don't know why you think I'm making this personal. Every issue I have noted in this thread is entirely legitimate. We're both quite aware that the zombie infection allows players to walk on walls and until just recently allowed disruption in events and spars. We both know that the flashbang NPC is potentially life threatening to any players who might have epilepsy.

These events have passed and I hope will be a good learning point for the people involved in their creation and release and will prevent similar things from happening again, but if no one had brought these issues up, would anyone have learned from these mistakes?

EDIT: And I just saw a message saying that purchasing of protection for the flashbangs has been refunded and this coverage is now included for free, and I appreciate that change very much. However, the wording left me confused as to whether or not it was free for all players or only those who had spent 10 EP on the original protection, because I firmly believe that with an effect like this, all players should have immunity to it for free and that the ability to turn it off should be much more advertised.

[snoop413]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

Snoop413 asked for an option to hide the forum options from what I can only assume was some sort of personal vendetta, considering according to his player flags, he began to use some of the provided options.

whaa? i joke around a lot with people but i never held anything personal against you, or anyone from graal for that matter. you were one of the few dev's on UN who did something on a regular basis.

[SwimChao]

To be honest, I appreciate that you brought them up. I'll admit, even though I said I wasn't through PMs, I was a little bit offended. Only because I was actually trying to put something out for the holiday, regardless of how tiny it was. That's no excuse for incompetence, and I should have definitely considered the bugs in the zombie infection.

It was even a little unjust of me to pick at your tone, because that's something not easily defined through text.

Here are a list of things Jazz and I changed tonight:
• Made it so people can't be zombies in ET Center, Spar and Events levels

• Fixed a bug in regards to Zombies customized speed conflicting with the speed adjustment when under a bush.

• Nerfed the flashbang weapon significantly

• Refunded players for the protection from "BOOnades" and made it a free feature in the protection weapon


Not everything can be covered in closed testing. Sometimes it takes the community to find the bugs that are going to be exploited.