Player World hosting

[protagonist]

Originally posted by Tseng


I was pointing out the error in his calculated comparison of "profits".

Still, if fewer people set up because of a large setup fee as suggested then they will in the long run make less.

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by draygin
Also make a bulk option please. Like say if its 10 bucks a month and you pay for a full year in advance maybe get one month free or something? I'd buy in bulk if there was a deal like that.

I can see that as a valid option , it would be an incentive to save yourself some money. If Unixmad sees this I 'm sure he may consider it, afterall he is a businessman and it does mean money in his pocket.

Originally posted by protagonist

Still, if fewer people set up because of a large setup fee as suggested then they will in the long run make less.

Maybe so but you have to admit it will cut down on the less serious people who just want to do it for a short period of time for whatever reason. This will not be in the best interest of Graal and a way for Graal to protect its own interest.

[Neonight]

Off the topic (sort of): I think current playerworld managers should get some time on their Graal account.

For example, Moon God is taking time away from his personal life to help keep players on Graal, and he gets nothing in return. He works to help keep Graal alive, and yet he still has to pay to access Graal. I don't believe I'd want to pay someone for a job. I think I'd much rather be rewarded for helping than I would paying to help. That may just be me, though.

[Tseng]

Originally posted by Neonight
Off the topic (sort of): I think current playerworld managers should get some time on their Graal account.

For example, Moon God is taking time away from his personal life to help keep players on Graal, and he gets nothing in return. He works to help keep Graal alive, and yet he still has to pay to access Graal. I don't believe I'd want to pay someone for a job. I think I'd much rather be rewarded for helping than I would paying to help. That may just be me, though.

A volunteer job is just that. I help out and hold my various positions because I want to, and not to 'get something' out of it. Once you start rewarding people for helping, people will be helping just to get the rewards and no longer just to improve the quality of graal as a whole. It would of course be 'nice' to get something out of it, but I consider the drawbacks to this type of rewarding to significantly outweigh the benefits.

[Neonight]

Originally posted by Tseng


A volunteer job is just that. I help out and hold my various positions because I want to, and not to 'get something' out of it. Once you start rewarding people for helping, people will be helping just to get the rewards and no longer just to improve the quality of graal as a whole. It would of course be 'nice' to get something out of it, but I consider the drawbacks to this type of rewarding to significantly outweigh the benefits.

But are you specifically keeping players actually playing Graal?

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by Tseng


A volunteer job is just that. I help out and hold my various positions because I want to, and not to 'get something' out of it. Once you start rewarding people for helping, people will be helping just to get the rewards and no longer just to improve the quality of graal as a whole. It would of course be 'nice' to get something out of it, but I consider the drawbacks to this type of rewarding to significantly outweigh the benefits.

Maybe so but I also have alot of money invested in Graal , not only the accounts I hold but the website I own , yes I bought the space on a server. I did this so the Npulse players would have a site free from those infernal pop up ads. The site cost me not Graal because I still have a yearly maintence fee to pay for the upkeep of my site. It's only $69 a year but combined with 3 p2p accounts (2mine 1 Moonies ) $200 I laid out for the site to start with not to mention a failed one I lost $100 because of some UK BS hosting company , I have spent quite a bit of money and hundreds of hours all related to Npulse of work done. Npulse is more than a Game but an investment to me , at some point in time a return of some kind would be nice. Something to show for all the time and Money I have invested in the game over the past 3 years.

[MedievalSmurf]

I agree with Tseng on this, No disrespect to Moon God but what he is doing is 101% volunteer work. No one is asking him or any other graal player that also invest there time and money into graal to help out, its there own choice that they made.

The only person that I really feel that should get rewarded is tyhm, since he is the only one that checks the graal support desk few times every day and gives a speedy reply.

Moon God I mean no disrespect, I really hope Npulse can reclaim its numbers and its old place on the place in the graal player list. Its really bad luck that you lost some money with UK BS hosting, but if you ever want to change hosts try www.hasweb.com (it’s one of the best website hosts I have ever seen)

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www.medievalgraal.com

[Milkdude99]

Originally posted by MedievalSmurf
I agree with Tseng on this, No disrespect to Moon God but what he is doing is 101% volunteer work. No one is asking him or any other graal player that also invest there time and money into graal to help out, its there own choice that they made.

The only person that I really feel that should get rewarded is tyhm, since he is the only one that checks the graal support desk few times every day and gives a speedy reply.

Moon God I mean no disrespect, I really hope Npulse can reclaim its numbers and its old place on the place in the graal player list. Its really bad luck that you lost some money with UK BS hosting, but if you ever want to change hosts try www.hasweb.com (it’s one of the best website hosts I have ever seen)

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www.medievalgraal.com

Well like I said I already own a website but that one looks pretty good. I do As for the numbers however have quite a few more options than they provide. At the time Graal did not require a website for a PW like they do now and granted I was not asked to do it, I will have this website long after I am done with Graal if I ever do. Btw that UK hosting Company is out of business now , the BS stood for Bull-----. Since I do own the site I won't be looking for another one. I know I did what I did on my own to give the players of Npulse a better site than most have. Many players need to realize what some Managers do to help their PWs along and what they do for their players. Soon everything will change with this hosting , what is being done changes what we do from volunteer to recieving something back for what we do. As for that help desk some of us have never gotten it to work right without errors from the page so it is ulesless for us, I happen to be one of them.(Moonie never has either and we do not work on the same comp or IP) As for the numbers If I can ever get done what I have been trying to do for the last year and a half , we will see a rise in numbers but progress is at a crawl right now.