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MagicalTux · #**136** 08-11-2004, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Everything is 'bannable'. Can you actually explain how banning him would have any positive effect, though?

Maybe for him to understand that doing something bad wasn't the solution to the problem...
Even if he couldn't contact me on ICQ, there's many other ways to contact me...

brock128 · #**137** 08-11-2004, 04:54 PM

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Everything is 'bannable'. Can you actually explain how banning him would have any positive effect, though?

Said it once, say it again - One less unstable Global.

And I already stated one act of corruption, but it seems nobody read the topic, so I'll say it again. Back when I was ET on 2k1, he was screwing with my events. Stole the prize money, pretty sure he started taking a nukeshot and started blowing stuf up. That's the one thing that I recall off the top of my head, but I also thought there was something on 2k2 with his corruption.

I do know that Loriel is very unstable, and I have no idea why he's a global, and why people seem to trust him so much.

WanDaMan · #**138** 08-11-2004, 04:57 PM

Loriel should be banned, and I hope he does get banned for it if he hasn't been banned yet.

If it was someone else like Pie for instance, he'd get banned in a second..
Even if he seems responsable, didn't Nemesis?

Eventhough he hasn't broke a rule, it's still wrong and something needs to be done about it.

dlang · #**139** 08-11-2004, 05:11 PM

Loriel is banned at this time.

Kaimetsu · #**140** 08-11-2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicalTux

Maybe for him to understand that doing something bad wasn't the solution to the problem...

You haven't yet shown that his actions were "bad" in any meaningful sense. Example: You used some flawed grammar in your post. This is unquestionably bad. Should you be banned in the hopes that you will learn not to do it again?

Again: Bans are only justified if it can be shown that they stand a reasonable chance of improving the board. Nobody has yet done that here.

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Originally Posted by brock128

Said it once, say it again - One less unstable Global.

No matter how many times you say it, the words will carry no weight unless you back them up. Horror stories of distant corruption are hardly convincing evidence.

In any case, if he should be banned, it shouldn't be in response to this event.

brock128 · #**141** 08-11-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

No matter how many times you say it, the words will carry no weight unless you back them up. Horror stories of distant corruption are hardly convincing evidence.

In any case, if he should be banned, it shouldn't be in response to this event.

That's great except...
a) My hard drive crashed a while ago, so I lost my cashe of pictures.
b) I'm not even AT my computer now, vacation.
c) He's banned anyway, so yeah.

Malinko · #**142** 08-11-2004, 05:15 PM

Banned for doing a fake joke? What is the world coming to? It's a small joke and little harmless fun, it's not like it would kill you. Think of it this way, the Graal Code of Conduct says you shouldn't enter your password anywhere to log in to any site that isn't affliated with GraalOnline, people who did, you chose to do what you did, and you should pay for that instead of complaining. He has no right to be banned for something you chose to do. Please grow up?

Kaimetsu · #**143** 08-11-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brock128

That's great except...
a) My hard drive crashed a while ago, so I lost my cashe of pictures.
b) I'm not even AT my computer now, vacation.

Therefore we should just assume that you are right?

dlang · #**144** 08-11-2004, 05:17 PM

Kaimetsu, you must not have any common sense if you compared something such as grammar to what Loriel has done.

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Originally Posted by Malinko

Banned for doing a fake joke? What is the world coming to? It's a small joke and little harmless fun, it's not like it would kill you. Think of it this way, the Graal Code of Conduct says you shouldn't enter your password anywhere to log in to any site that isn't affliated with GraalOnline, people who did, you chose to do what you did, and you should pay for that instead of complaining. He has no right to be banned for something you chose to do. Please grow up?

He attempted to steal passwords, it does not matter in the least that he was joking around. If you walk up to someone on the street and assault them with a steel bar, the police aren't going to care if you were playing around or not.

Malinko · #**145** 08-11-2004, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dlang

Kaimetsu, you must not have any common sense if you compared something such as grammar to what Loriel has done.

He attempted to steal passwords, it doesn't not matter in the least that he was joking around. If you walk up to someone on the street and bust them upside the head with a steel bar, the police aren't going to care if you were playing around or not.

How do you know? Maybe the log on did nothing but a redirection? If you do not know the code, you can't prove anything. It could have been some joke that didn't log anything at all. If you go try it, meaning you are risking YOUR OWN user name and password.

Also, this is the internet, nothing else.

dlang · #**146** 08-11-2004, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Malinko

How do you know?

Exactly, you don't know. Thats the problem. You don't know if he did or didn't, but there is always a chance that he did, and that chance is enough for a ban.

Malinko · #**147** 08-11-2004, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dlang

Exactly, you don't know. Thats the problem. You don't know if he did or didn't, but there is always a chance that he did, and that chance is enough for a ban.

It's your job to look and see what site you're on, don't always trust computers to take you to the rightful place? That is why pop-ups annoy people =).

dlang · #**148** 08-11-2004, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Malinko

It's your job to look and see what site you're on, don't always trust computers to take you to the rightful place? That is why pop-ups annoy people =).

That is irrelevant.

Malinko · #**149** 08-11-2004, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dlang

That is irrelevant.

How so? It's irrelevant since YOU logged onto to a site without checking what it is?

Anyways, I must go do some things in life, so I don't have any more time to argue this topic til later, but let me point something out.

Loriel for GM!

dlang · #**150** 08-11-2004, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Malinko

How so? It's irrelevant since YOU logged onto to a site without checking what it is?

I never viewed that site because it was removed before I came to this topic.
(Removed by Loriel after people started questioning it, from what I hear)

Its irrelevant because the action in this case that would deserve a ban is an attempt.