Musings of a Staff Member

[Lance]

It's depressing that people are so small-minded, and because of that deal with me carrying such misconceptions:

Because I'm staff, I'm automatically corrupt.

I automatically created everything I have in my inventory, including things that I had before I was staff, somehow. <- I'm still trying to figure out that last part.

I automatically give stuff to my hard-working friends, who also work their butts off levelling/getting monster drops/trading for better stuff.

I automatically favor my friends over my non-friends in terms of arbitration, becuase of COURSE my friends are ALWAYS right.

I automatically abuse my power.

I automatically cheat.

I automatically ban people for unfair reasons.

I automatically don't give people enough chances, though I gave mikethedarkpaladin ~5-7 warnings before he was banned, and now people are complaining that he is banned after he said 'BAN ME, DOUCHEBAG' after the last such warning.

In short, some you people are starting to make me sick.

[Loriel]

I told you

[Lance]

I'm not quitting or anything (some have asked), but I just felt like saying this stuff. I'm hoping that someone will read this, and think "Oh, I shouldn't pick the easy/stupid explanation, and actually think about this."

I enjoy helping out on Graal Kingdoms, but sometimes it can be a bit annoying.

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Lance
I'm not quitting or anything (some have asked), but I just felt like saying this stuff. I'm hoping that someone will read this, and think "Oh, I shouldn't pick the easy/stupid explanation, and actually think about this."

I enjoy helping out on Graal Kingdoms, but sometimes it can be a bit annoying.

Help on 2k1 more

[Darlene159]

Corruption has a whole new meaning on Graal
Doing what you are supposed to do, and making people follow simple rules= corruption on Graal

Yet, if you give people everything they want, and dont make them follow any rules, you are an all around great person.

It isn't anything new, Lance...and is one of the reasons I gave up my position as Manager

[Splke]

Originally posted by Darlene159
Corruption has a whole new meaning on Graal
Doing what you are supposed to do, and making people follow simple rules= corruption on Graal

Yet, if you give people everything they want, and dont make them follow any rules, you are an all around great person.

It isn't anything new, Lance...and is one of the reasons I gave up my position as Manager

Correction, from a player who hears others whine alot...

Corruption = somebody else getting something that the person wants, and they cant get it....

Corruption = somebody gets something and seems "favored", constantly getting items and / or flaunting them.

Corruption = your friend gets banned, and the reason was all too "unfair" or "unjust" in your eyes, and in your friends eyes.

Corruption = U.S. Goverment

Had to add the last one :P

[zell12]

Tseng, you spend too much time on GK and none on G2k1. You should be on there as long as your online, doing something.

[TripleE]

Well Tseng, Im glad that you realize this. I dont think you should quit, but I do think that your rc rights on kingdoms should be removed. Because you havebanned me for an unlawful reason. And also I have seen youwarp to shops checking for things. So yes you are corrupt.It's sad Stefan doesnt see the power he is giving his staff members, and the mistakes he's makign by allowing you with ban, and change self attribute rights. You also abuse the Disconnect feature.

[zell12]

Stefan won't do anything about it. i told Stefan what Jagen did and he just said he is getting edit player attributes soon... lol

Anyway, I don't think teenagers are capible of administrating a server. Not even Tyhm.

[skyler87]

Originally posted by Lance
I'm not quitting or anything (some have asked), but I just felt like saying this stuff. I'm hoping that someone will read this, and think "Oh, I shouldn't pick the easy/stupid explanation, and actually think about this."

I enjoy helping out on Graal Kingdoms, but sometimes it can be a bit annoying.

I would like to know why you think you have the right to ban people for saying you are corrupt. Explain to me why our opinions don't matter and we get banned for them, and then maybe I'll respect your opinion.

[TripleE]

Originally posted by skyler87

I would like to know why you think you have the right to ban people for saying you are corrupt. Explain to me why our opinions don't matter and we get banned for them, and then maybe I'll respect your opinion.

I'd like to know the same. It's weird how Tseng can bash peoples post, which is harassment if you read the rules... and anything we say is a crime.

Tseng, since your making a thread to get sympathy, I think I'll make one also, then I'll ask the 100+ other people who play kingdoms to come here and make on also. So I think this could be considered spam, because this is just for your own wealth, i dont think anyone really cares about this.

[Python523]

Originally posted by TripleE
Well Tseng, Im glad that you realize this. I dont think you should quit, but I do think that your rc rights on kingdoms should be removed. Because you havebanned me for an unlawful reason. And also I have seen youwarp to shops checking for things. So yes you are corrupt.It's sad Stefan doesnt see the power he is giving his staff members, and the mistakes he's makign by allowing you with ban, and change self attribute rights. You also abuse the Disconnect feature.

... are you unable to detect sarcasm? You need a lesson on interpretation

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Python523


... are you unable to detect sarcasm? You need a lesson on interpretation

I dont need a lesson in anything. Why do my posts get deleted when I am sarcastic? But when Tseng does, or anyother mod/staff person nothing is done? Jagen, It's sad that you dont see Tseng's corruption. You joined his side, before I even had a chance to tell you anything. Just goes to show that corruption is waved by, and adminis I thoughtcould help...dont give a damn,and side with fellow administrators.

[Lance]

Originally posted by TripleE
Well Tseng, Im glad that you realize this. I dont think you should quit, but I do think that your rc rights on kingdoms should be removed. Because you havebanned me for an unlawful reason. And also I have seen youwarp to shops checking for things. So yes you are corrupt.It's sad Stefan doesnt see the power he is giving his staff members, and the mistakes he's makign by allowing you with ban, and change self attribute rights. You also abuse the Disconnect feature.

Oh, my god. You are even less intelligent than I thought.

I was noting that because I am staff, small minded people such as yourself would assume such things. Yet you actually thought I was 'admitting' to some kind of corruption? I'm laughing hard at that one. Thanks for brightening my day just that much.

I banned you for threats, harassment, and misusing the mass-messaging feature of graal. And, last time I checked, those were 'lawful' reasons to ban someone.

Originally posted by skyler87

I would like to know why you think you have the right to ban people for saying you are corrupt.

I don't ban people just for saying I am corrupt - I ban people for harassing me and others with such allegations.

Explain to me why our opinions don't matter and we get banned for them, and then maybe I'll respect your opinion.

You don't get banned for an opinion. You get banned for how you act upon your opinion.

TripleE had some valid concerns, but he also had some invalid ones. Had he politely asked me "Why are there more than three warhammers out?" I could have easily responded "Because there was never such a limit. Stefan released some warhammers, and then Jagen+James+I made an agreement to release three additional hammers of each type."

He could have asked me: "Why are there stacked brutals floating around?" and I could have responded with "There are stacked brutals because Jagen traded someone ~50 stacked brutals for 50 regular brutals. The person had complained about inventory space. Do I think Jagen should have done it? Nah. But, he did, and there's nothing that can be done about that now.

The point is, there are several more effective avenues at resolving such situations than massing & PMing half-witted allegations, insults, and threats.

Originally posted by TripleE

I'd like to know the same. It's weird how Tseng can bash peoples post, which is harassment if you read the rules... and anything we say is a crime.

Labelling someone correctly is not harassment. Perhaps if you would stop behavior that merits such labels, you will not receive them. You do not show kindness to me -> I do not show kindness to you. It's very simple, you see.

Tseng, since your making a thread to get sympathy, I think I'll make one also, then I'll ask the 100+ other people who play kingdoms to come here and make on also.

If you do, it shall be deleted. Discussion of bans is not permitted on the forums.

So I think this could be considered spam, because this is just for your own wealth, i dont think anyone really cares about this.

It's not spam, it's a valid rant. As for nobody caring - why not let the people decide, instead of telling me what everyone's opinion is ahead of time?

[Zurkiba]

Well in my own opinion, not to go against Tseng or anything. He's doing too much.

He's an admin on 2k2
Manager of 2k1
King of Dustari
Global Scripter Team

Tseng, buddy, you need to pick ONE and work on ONE. Otherwise you screw the other stuff.

[raymond]

Originally posted by Zurkiba
Well in my own opinion, not to go against Tseng or anything. He's doing too much.

He's an admin on 2k2
Manager of 2k1
King of Dustari
Global Scripter Team

Tseng, buddy, you need to pick ONE and work on ONE. Otherwise you screw the other stuff.

Have you ever heard of multi-tasking? If he can do all of that then who are you to stand in his way? I currently have 3 Jobs: Working on debug, Working on Archaic and Managing Gileada. You don't see anyone complaining about that...

[Lance]

Originally posted by Zurkiba
Well in my own opinion, not to go against Tseng or anything. He's doing too much.

He's an admin on 2k2
Manager of 2k1
King of Dustari
Global Scripter Team

Tseng, buddy, you need to pick ONE and work on ONE. Otherwise you screw the other stuff.

Will you list the things Stefan does, and then tell me that he is doing a poor job or should just work on one thing? If not, then please do not do such to me.

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Lance


Will you list the things Stefan does, and then tell me that he is doing a poor job? If not, then please do not do such to me.

But Stefan is acually doing all of his jobs.

Progress on 2k1 is extremely slow... and it could be much better.

You're becoming another Chrisz, chosing what you want to work on and keeping your positions which you obviously ignore.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

But Stefan is acually doing all of his jobs.

Progress on 2k1 is extremely slow... and it could be much better.

Yes, Zurkiba, let me whip out some levels with the level editor, because we all know how good of a level artist I am.

You're becoming another Chrisz, chosing what you want to work on and keeping your positions which you obviously ignore.

I do more work than is necessary in all of my positions. Please do not bash me without understanding the situation.

[Zurkiba]

Originally posted by Lance


Yes, Zurkiba, let me whip out some levels with the level editor, because we all know how good of a level artist I am.



I do more work than is necessary in all of my positions. Please do not bash me without understanding the situation.

I'm not bashing you.

And your job as Manager isn't to develop.

Tseng... you've always been a guy to desperately defend your power and position. I'm not here to bash you or anything... I'm here to help you and to help Graal.

Originally posted by Lance
Labelling someone correctly is not harassment. Perhaps if you would stop behavior that merits such labels, you will not receive them. You do not show kindness to me -> I do not show kindness to you. It's very simple, you see.

You're insulting them. You're a global... and a manager for an offical server. You're not representing Graal very well. I'm not even a staffer for Graal and you dont see me insulting people do you?

People are sending me things of what you're calling them, and it doesn't look good Tseng. It doesn't look good at all.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Zurkiba

I'm not bashing you.

And your job as Manager isn't to develop.

You say I'm not doing my job, and development is slow. There are not enough people of sufficient quality to work at 2k1. I've explained this before, had you cared to listen.

[qutoe]Tseng... you've always been a guy to desperately defend your power and position. I'm not here to bash you or anything... I'm here to help you and to help Graal.[/quote]

I defend myself from foolish attacks like this. Note that when a bunch of idiots band togethere, there are no limits to what they can't accomplish.

You're insulting them. You're a global... and a manager for an offical server. You're not representing Graal very well. I'm not even a staffer for Graal and you dont see me insulting people do you?

I see you calling people corrupt. That's an insult.

People are sending me things of what you're calling them, and it doesn't look good Tseng. It doesn't look good at all.

That's nice. I don't care.

[TripleE]

[i] Tseng rants... [i]
Labelling someone correctly is not harassment. Perhaps if you would stop behavior that merits such labels, you will not receive them. You do not show kindness to me -> I do not show kindness to you. It's very simple, you see.

I cant believe you said that. I got banned for calling you corrupt because I am correct. You abuse your rights, and then are a complete ass to everyone. So how does the truth qualify as harassment?

[Lance]

Originally posted by TripleE


I cant believe you said that. I got banned for calling you corrupt because I am correct. You abuse your rights, and then are a complete ass to everyone. So how does the truth qualify as harassment?

Because I'm not corrupt + don't abuse my rights...?

Because your messages were of a harrassing and offensive nature...?

Because your messages interfered with my work and with my gameplay...?

I have enough work to do without dealing with stupid "So and so is corrupt"-spouting fools.

[DragonX]

I sense a Nemesis in the future..

[Lance]

Originally posted by DragonX
I sense a Nemesis in the future..

Wow. I become offended by people who spend their time trying to get me fired, and then stuff like this crops up.

All I can say i that I'm disappointed in you, DragonX.

I am not corrupt, I do not favor 'girlfriends' in hiring, I do not call people from graal and attempt to cyber with them, I do none of that. To even compare me with him is insulting and degrading.

I'm disappointed.

[DragonX]

Originally posted by Lance
I am not corrupt

Many say otherwise.
Also I didn't say what I said because of what you do, but because of what you MIGHT do if you breakdown one day..

[TripleE]

Originally posted by DragonX
I sense a Nemesis in the future..

Half of kingdoms sees that...

Originally posted by Tseng...
I am not corrupt, I do not favor 'girlfriends' in hiring, I do not call people from graal and attempt to cyber with them, I do none of that. To even compare me with him is insulting and degrading.

Dont ban him also...he's just expressing his opinion.

Originally posted by Tseng...
Because I'm not corrupt + don't abuse my rights...?

Because your messages were of a harrassing and offensive nature...?

Because your messages interfered with my work and with my gameplay...?

I have enough work to do without dealing with stupid "So and so is corrupt"-spouting fools.

get this straight and stop ****ing lying to the public. You do add things to your account, you gave me gold keys one time...you give items to your dustari friends, you talk about a good friend or yours behind her back, im debating on sending it to her, but right now im being a sane person. I didnt message you. Wren sent you things I said, which I am not sure what exactly she sent, you disconencted me, i said wtf?corrupt?,you banned me. Why dont you show the history on here of me disturbing you of work and gameplay? Work is to be done on Debug, and you werent playing when I was, cause it was the first time Id seen you on that day, What work exactly are you doing? On kingdoms, GST,2k1,Dustari Developement? I wish I could log on Kingdoms right now, just to see all the things im hearing....man Tseng, you goofed this time.

[Lance]

Originally posted by DragonX


Many say otherwise.
Also I didn't say what I said because of what you do, but because of what you MIGHT do if you breakdown one day..

I'm strong. I can deal with these people. It just is annoying sometimes, and this is one of those times.

I have no respect for people that 'Go out in a bang'. Such behavior sickens me, and I shall never do that.

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Lance


I'm strong. I can deal with these people. It just is annoying sometimes, and this is one of those times.

I have no respect for people that 'Go out in a bang'. Such behavior sickens me, and I shall never do that.

I believe you already "have got in a bang". You have gone corrupt, and ask any player on 2k2 right now, if they think you are and be awwed at their remarks.

[Lance]

I massed this, per your request:

TripleE (Black Sabbath) wants me to mass asking if I have gone corrupt or not. I banned him for his corruption-allegation messages which were interfering with my gameplay (Telling me that I would be fired, will lose my job, I'm corrupt, blah blah.) A simple yes-or-no will suffice, and you need not fear banning, as I do not merely ban people for saying I'm corrupt.

I value input - just not unintelligent, harrassing input.

Disclaimer: Whether positive or negative, your responses *may* be posted in the aforementioned thread so that Black Sabbath can see the results.

[Python523]

Originally posted by TripleE

I believe you already "have got in a bang". You have gone corrupt, and ask any player on 2k2 right now, if they think you are and be awwed at their remarks.

GET. OVER. IT.
You PMed him calling hi a b*stard for things he didn't do, then you told him to be prepared to be fired. I am not even counting the masses you sent including other comments you sent via mass messages. You broke the rules. You paid.

[Mousefuzz]

I dont think I have ever heard anyone happy with any staff on any of the servers I have played on . Staff does what they can , and they are not here to personally answer to every person that plays . So they stay as true to the road as they can and do what they think is right. I am not saying i haven't seen corrupt staff but some people feel all staff are corrupt just because they are staff.
People on staff as I know it dont get paid to to take your abuse and still do their job , the majority are players like you and me as I understand it . Out of every barrel of apples you may find some rotten ones but the majority have my respect and should have yours . Tseng in my opinion is one of the good ones , dont chase him away

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Lance
I massed this, per your request:

Results? And thats nto what I said to mass, keep adding little tidbits.

And why arent you respodning to my post...(about 3 up?) I am anxious for your response.

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Mousefuzz
I dont think I have ever heard anyone happy with any staff on any of the servers I have played on . Staff does what they can , and they are not here to personally answer to every person that plays . So they stay as true to the road as they can and do what they think is right. I am not saying i haven't seen corrupt staff but some people feel all staff are corrupt just because they are staff.
People on staff as I know it dont get paid to to take your abuse and still do their job , the majority are players like you and me as I understand it . Out of every barrel of apples you may find some rotten ones but the majority have my respect and should have yours . Tseng in my opinion is one of the good ones , dont chase him away

Ana, im not chasing anyone away...well actually yes I am. Actually driving him away on a rocket, atleast trying. If you got disconnected for no reason...you would ask why he did that...then he would reply with a smartass comment which set me off like he did...and before i could respond he banned me. Ana, Tseng will never do this to you for your are a friend. Little do you know, he talks about Zoe behind her back. And I ****ing swear Tseng, you delte this and your just making yourself look worse,by not handling the truth, I have the forum PM saved where you mash tec,and Zoe.

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Python523


GET. OVER. IT.
You PMed him calling hi a b*stard for things he didn't do, then you told him to be prepared to be fired. I am not even counting the masses you sent including other comments you sent via mass messages. You broke the rules. You paid.

I didnt send anything!!! Why the hell wont you guys post what I sent?Mayeb because there is no evidence. And Jagen you werent on either, so how the hell could you say anything? Jagen this isnt dealing with you. I didnt say be prepared for firing. I said I think he should be. I guess that is the threat I made which appears as part of my ban. And no...I will not be over this until it's resolved...meaning im unbanned. You both still have yet to SHOW ME WHAT PROOF YOU HAVE OF THESE FALSE ACCUSATIONS..so Jagen STOP HGOLDING TSENGS HAND YOUR NOT IN ON THIS...I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS SAID TO YOU, BUT WHY DOSNT ANYONE LISTEN TO THE PLAYERS?

[Lance]

Originally posted by TripleE

Results? And thats nto what I said to mass, keep adding little tidbits.

Names removed, unless they were included in the message. Here's a few of the comments I received (And, surprisingly (or not so) I received none saying that I was corrupt.)

*EmortalDragon (12/18/2003 5:29:51 PM):
i was reading the thread...some people are *****s. You do a good job and
have helped me out on several occasions. If you weren't around there were
times i could've had alot of problems that couldn't be fixed (ie on bravo and
when operation crisis disappeared) I don't thinky ou do but you really
shouldnt care what some annoying newbs think of you. Again i can't say
you're not corrupt but i cant say you're corrupt either. I have no proof either
way..just the fact that you actaully answer pms and help out players is alot.
Hope you don't quit.

-EmortalDragon (Bravo, StreetWarz, Futura Owner)

[Person2] (12/18/2003 5:30:28 PM):
We all know your firm on your thinking , he is just upset that he has not found a
way to bring delight to his game, he thinks items and ect dose , how ever he
can not find goodness in him self

[Person3](12/18/2003 5:27:58 PM):
Erm... You could go on the front of distoration of reputation of a character...
Some law about that. If we gossip about someone and wreck thier reputation of
a such, you could techniqueally "sue" them for wrecking your reputation. :P
Who knows...
[Person3] (12/18/2003 5:18:24 PM):
I know what it's like... Anyhow, I find your doing fine as it is... Don't follow your
every action, now interested in them. If you were to be corrupt, it wouldn't affect
me, for I'm just trying to get my items and go up in levels constantly alone... Not
much to praise items for.
Tseng (12/18/2003 5:17:00 PM):
It's just starting to irritate me.
[person3] (12/18/2003 5:14:36 PM):
Ohh... Never in my mind you were corrupt... People tend to interpret power with
corruptness, for if they would be in your place, they'd be corrupt themselves.

[Person4] (12/18/2003 5:27:52 PM):
Black Sabbath was just ASKING to be banned behaving like that! Tch, and he has
the nerve to ask that! What a *****!

Tseng (12/18/2003 5:36:28 PM):
I do plan on it. That's why I've been playing more often lately, but
only to be met with this kinda behavior from people. *sigh*
[Person5] (12/18/2003 5:34:40 PM):
No, I haven't seen any actions/behavior that would lead me to believe you are
'corrupt' Although, I believe some of the Heads (such as the Cardinal) should
have rights to add/remove, unless you plan on being ontag a lot more.

[raymond]

Originally posted by TripleE


I didnt send anything!!! Why the hell wont you guys post what I sent?Mayeb because there is no evidence. And Jagen you werent on either, so how the hell could you say anything? Jagen this isnt dealing with you. I didnt say be prepared for firing. I said I think he should be. I guess that is the threat I made which appears as part of my ban. And no...I will not be over this until it's resolved...meaning im unbanned. You both still have yet to SHOW ME WHAT PROOF YOU HAVE OF THESE FALSE ACCUSATIONS..so Jagen STOP HGOLDING TSENGS HAND YOUR NOT IN ON THIS...I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS SAID TO YOU, BUT WHY DOSNT ANYONE LISTEN TO THE PLAYERS?

I think I speak for everyone when I say: Shut up...

[skyler87]

Originally posted by Lance

I don't ban people just for saying I am corrupt - I ban people for harassing me and others with such allegations.

Originally posted by Lance

You don't get banned for an opinion. You get banned for how you act upon your opinion.

What I was wondering about was my brother.
One night, he massed out something to the effect of "At least he isn't corrupt like some admins *cough*Tseng*cough*".
He didn't even send the message to you, he didn't want to, because he thought you might see that as "harassment", he sent it to everyone else on the server. However, obviously someone told you what he massed, and he got banned for a day or two over it, with the ban info saying "harassment". I fail to realize why him telling everyone except for you his opinion about you can be classified as harassment. Yeah, I understand, he did call you corrupt. Maybe he had a good reason, I really don't know.

[Python523]

Originally posted by TripleE


I didnt send anything!!! Why the hell wont you guys post what I sent?Mayeb because there is no evidence. And Jagen you werent on either, so how the hell could you say anything? Jagen this isnt dealing with you. I didnt say be prepared for firing. I said I think he should be. I guess that is the threat I made which appears as part of my ban. And no...I will not be over this until it's resolved...meaning im unbanned. You both still have yet to SHOW ME WHAT PROOF YOU HAVE OF THESE FALSE ACCUSATIONS..so Jagen STOP HGOLDING TSENGS HAND YOUR NOT IN ON THIS...I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS SAID TO YOU, BUT WHY DOSNT ANYONE LISTEN TO THE PLAYERS?

I would post the aim logs people sent me at the same time asking me to deal with you because of your masses but I don't want to bother with the whole 'text logs can be edited' arguement. You say proove it? I say proove you didn't. You are not acting like an innocent man.

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Lance


Names removed, unless they were included in the message. Here's a few of the comments I received (And, surprisingly (or not so) I received none saying that I was corrupt.)

That's all a joke to me...why are the names hidden?they arent real? o.O