New Level Tutorial!

[funnylinkwantsbomys]

Originally posted by konidias
It's quite a nice tutorial, but then, it's only a level, and there's nothing spectacular about a normal outside level. You have rocks, bushes, paths, trees.... I mean anyone can do that given the practice. What Graal really needs, is a good tutorial on how to make towns and villages. Since that's where most people really screw up. They either creative insane houses that make no sense and barely look like houses, or they use ugly pathways like carpet tiles and stuff... I wanna see a nice town level where the paths aren't all crazy and they aren't all perfectly straight... just a good town level.

i hate when servers only have what spanky posted * its like trying to run through a forest

[hype4]

i probley sound like such a newb at this, but i cant find the tiles to make cliffs...the tile set only has certain directions. btw im not that new at level disighning this is just one thing that bothers me

[theHAWKER]

Originally Posted by hype4

i probley sound like such a newb at this, but i cant find the tiles to make cliffs...the tile set only has certain directions. btw im not that new at level disighning this is just one thing that bothers me

the cliff tiles are scrambled about in the first section of the tile map, but you can always go to the pre-made tiles and learn from thoughs

[Vima]

The toturial was kinda good, but next time you are going to do a toturial, please fix your bugs before you post the pic :X
I don't really like your detailing, Almost all your detail is half of something for example the grass.
AND i discovered some cliff bugs too and the pathing has also a bunch of tileerrors.
Just a suggestion ;D

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Vima

The toturial was kinda good, but next time you are going to do a toturial, please fix your bugs before you post the pic :X
I don't really like your detailing, Almost all your detail is half of something for example the grass.
AND i discovered some cliff bugs too and the pathing has also a bunch of tileerrors.
Just a suggestion ;D

Well, back in 2003 this was godlike.

[Aknts]

Originally Posted by Vima

The toturial was kinda good, but next time you are going to do a toturial, please fix your bugs before you post the pic :X
I don't really like your detailing, Almost all your detail is half of something for example the grass.
AND i discovered some cliff bugs too and the pathing has also a bunch of tileerrors.
Just a suggestion ;D

Show me a better level that you made.

[BARGAD]

Originally Posted by Vima

I don't really like your detailing, Almost all your detail is half of something for example the grass.

What you like in level of detail and what style you prefer will always differ between players. Some like very heavy detail, while others prefer less detailed levels. I think this is also different between what you enjoy watching, and what you enjoy playing on. I for example enjoy watching hevily detailed levels, but when it comes to actually playing them, I find all the objects to be in the way.

AND i discovered some cliff bugs too and the pathing has also a bunch of tileerrors.
Just a suggestion ;D

Spotting tile "errors" is always hard for the level maker, because they are so easily made. At times though, what you find to be a actual tile error can differ from player to player. But I'm pretty sure theres some errors here and there.

But then again, this level was made some years ago as Gerami pointed out. I think leveling styles are different now, although I can not say for sure since I'm not up to date with it anymore. Would be great if more players could make some new tutorials though, because I think a good way to learn to make levels and develop your own style is to watch others work. I wouldnt mind some sort of guide pointing out what the current way of level making there is !

And hello everyone, been awhile!

Came to think of it, thats one weird level with what I think was a path leading nowhere and not much space to actually walk around on the level. Still perhaps gave someone some idea how you could use the cliff tiles or so !

[WanDaMan]

Originally Posted by hype4

i probley sound like such a newb at this, but i cant find the tiles to make cliffs...the tile set only has certain directions. btw im not that new at level disighning this is just one thing that bothers me

Search for "Cliff Objects" - I did some a while ago

[Zideruic]

My name sake Eric_1337!!

[Waltz5]

Originally posted by funnylinkwantsbomys
i hate when servers only have what spanky posted * its like trying to run through a forest

Definately.

They are very nice to look at, but most of the time you have to be practical and think of the players walking through them.

[PrinceDark]

Those levels are very nice, and I don't think it's a problem to walk through just as long as blocking objects like rocks and mushrooms are kept out of the way.
With levels like these it makes it easier for newbies to get away from pkers. A pker can chase ya and then you can easily jump behind a cliff or tree and slash at them or stop and go in the other direction while they try to predict what direction you're going in. You can easily lose them to give you enough time to warp away also.

Very nice tutorial. I hope to see one done on inside levels.

[Spark910]

One server I was on, cant rmember which, had a PK area, and the level had random mushrooms and small rocks, which is stupid, as it blocks you.

[Knuckles]

Originally posted by konidias
It's quite a nice tutorial, but then, it's only a level, and there's nothing spectacular about a normal outside level. You have rocks, bushes, paths, trees.... I mean anyone can do that given the practice. What Graal really needs, is a good tutorial on how to make towns and villages. Since that's where most people really screw up. They either creative insane houses that make no sense and barely look like houses, or they use ugly pathways like carpet tiles and stuff... I wanna see a nice town level where the paths aren't all crazy and they aren't all perfectly straight... just a good town level.

Amen...

All the levels are starting to look the same to me now...

Cliffs, more cliffs, dirt, water, and bushes.. WOW! =o

[Azrael528]

Yea its bad...as in not good, but the level was pretty though good job spanky and other guy gori i think was his name.

[TripleE]

Originally posted by Spark910
One server I was on, cant rmember which, had a PK area, and the level had random mushrooms and small rocks, which is stupid, as it blocks you.

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