New exe Problems Thread (POST PROBLEMS HERE) - Page 4

Tyhm · #1 10-19-2002, 12:58 AM

A good point...

I dunno. Maybe it's time we opened hirings again, though I'm hardly in a position to orchestrate it.

Com013 · #2 10-19-2002, 02:28 AM

And Lomgren was inactive the last six months or so, so I doubt he'll be able to do a hiring now. And I'm neither a LAT (Asst.) Chief, nor do I have the time for it now. Could we make an "emergency" hiring maybe? Just two LATs or so without a vote?

Tyhm · #3 10-19-2002, 06:06 AM

I frown on doing so...but none of the LATs bother showing up either...*shrugs* If it becomes necessary to the conversion project.

Kaimetsu · #4 10-19-2002, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Com013

Just guess what my converter will be doing?
The timeouts are the hugest problem for autoconverting.

Woah there. If you're converting timeouts then there's a good chance that you're doing something wrong. Timeouts are almost never used online.

CheeToS2 · #5 10-19-2002, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Timeouts are almost never used online.

R0bin · #6 10-19-2002, 07:10 PM

i concur with kai.

get loads of people to help with the rescripting tyhm, i stand by "Quantity over Quality"

all they will be doing to most scripts is //#CLIENTSIDE

i can train my hampster to do that x.x.

Com013 · #7 10-19-2002, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
Timeouts are almost never used online.

Have you ever played on Classic? There are tons of scripted baddies and other NPCs which are using timeouts.
And I've got to convert all of them manually.

Kaimetsu · #8 10-19-2002, 08:57 PM

Meh, I meant serverside. There are very few occasions where you'd need to have serverside timeouts. A baddy, okay, but those all use pretty much the same script and can be rescripted manually. All the shiny light shows etc won't use serverside timeouts.

Com013 · #9 10-19-2002, 09:05 PM

You can't guess how many NPCs there are which are doing nothing else than walking aimless around in a room...

Jeff · #10 10-19-2002, 09:47 PM

A lot of things can use clientside timeouts, after the //#CLIENTSIDE, which can be under .1

For example lights, which have to be clientside anyway.

CheeToS2 · #11 10-19-2002, 10:23 PM

this thread topic went out the window

osrs · #12 10-19-2002, 11:09 PM

check it.
Old bodys aren't working for me.

R0bin · #13 10-20-2002, 12:00 AM

try doing setani idle,;

Kaimetsu · #14 10-20-2002, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Com013
You can't guess how many NPCs there are which are doing nothing else than walking aimless around in a room...

It would be okay if they all used the move command.

R0bin · #15 10-20-2002, 07:31 AM

but classic is old and they didnt have the move command back then nope ser-y-bob

Loriel · #16 10-20-2002, 08:20 AM

Obviously there are still problems with the new exe

Raiden sent me this just now.

Tyhm · #17 10-20-2002, 08:35 AM

Fortunately, most walking scripts can be recognized as one of two or three versions...then you just replace all the standard code with a new standard code...

Kaimetsu · #18 10-20-2002, 08:59 AM

At least this will all be a lot easier if you do upgrade to an NPC Server. No need for batchers if you use class files - you can just update the class and everything is fixed at once

osrs · #19 10-20-2002, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by R0bin
try doing setani idle,;

i did..dont work

osrs · #20 10-20-2002, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel
Obviously there are still problems with the new exe
Raiden sent me this just now.

It's happening with me.

Com013 · #21 10-20-2002, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu
At least this will all be a lot easier if you do upgrade to an NPC Server. No need for batchers if you use class files - you can just update the class and everything is fixed at once

Yes. I've already got lots of ideas for classes. Can't wait to get access.

R0bin · #22 10-20-2002, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by osrs

i did..dont work

replaceani idle,idle;

Com013 · #23 10-20-2002, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by R0bin

replaceani idle,idle;

Or just don't start Graal by clicking on Tutorial, but by double clicking on another level.

Tyhm · #24 10-21-2002, 04:39 AM

We'll still need a batcher to replace
if(playerenters||wasthrown){...
with
this.mode=3;
join walk;
and so forth. Just we'd only need it once.

Kaimetsu · #25 10-21-2002, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyhm
We'll still need a batcher to replace
if(playerenters||wasthrown){...
with
this.mode=3;
join walk;
and so forth. Just we'd only need it once.

Yeah, I'm talking about after everything has been upgraded. It makes bug fixes much easier.

Com013 · #26 10-22-2002, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyhm
We'll still need a batcher to replace
if(playerenters||wasthrown){...
with
this.mode=3;
join walk;
and so forth. Just we'd only need it once.

Wait...you want me to write a program to recognise what a script is doing? Next to impossible...we have to convert this stuff manually.

Jeff · #27 10-22-2002, 04:01 AM

I'd say manual conversion is practically the only way. A program to evaluate types of scripts would actually take longer, because it'd have to be a damn good program. Would probably have big bugs and make mistakes that have to be handfixed in the end anyway.

Tyhm · #28 10-22-2002, 05:20 AM

Not necessarily.

If the script starts with that //Character Script by Stefan
Take the if(created) part and put that in the new NPC
take the this.mode==#; line and put that in the new NPC
Join the new NPC to the new Default Character script
and you're done.

Jeff · #29 10-22-2002, 08:25 AM

It'd work if it had enough signs of such activity. Test it on some sample levels I guess, should work.

prozac424242 · #30 10-23-2002, 07:27 AM

If yuo carry a bomb on the new Graal,
the gani maps to the old body dimentions (i guess) cause
it looks quite strange!
ALso if you shoot an arrow it looks messed up.

Need to include the G2k2 carry and shoot ganis in the
download pack.

Com013 · #31 10-25-2002, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyhm
Not necessarily.

If the script starts with that //Character Script by Stefan
Take the if(created) part and put that in the new NPC
take the this.mode==#; line and put that in the new NPC
Join the new NPC to the new Default Character script
and you're done.

Good idea! They all start with

NPC Code:



//Graal (version number here) NPC made by Stefan Knorr

if (created) {

  // initialize attributes

...

R0bin · #32 10-25-2002, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by prozac424242
If yuo carry a bomb on the new Graal,
the gani maps to the old body dimentions (i guess) cause
it looks quite strange!
ALso if you shoot an arrow it looks messed up.

Need to include the G2k2 carry and shoot ganis in the
download pack.

Change your sig, you quit/got fired from rudora <3

Also, removeweapon is not ingored in the npc editor, like the other serverside commands.

Falcor · #33 11-04-2002, 12:06 PM

Sometimes transparencys of PNGs mess up when using setimgmode index,1;

Like I had the color Blue as the transparenct color in my png and it works fine w/ regular, but sometimes when its transparent, the blue shows up.

Tyhm · #34 11-05-2002, 04:50 AM

I can take a picture of Magic Bullet on G2K2, same problem, if anyone needs proof

R0bin · #35 11-05-2002, 10:30 AM

well, either my tileset is whacked and fuzzy and crap, or its black and there is no tileset. If thats what you call playable gaming, id love to see what you call "****ED THE HELL UP"

edit, oh yeah, i have a gforce2 mx on a p3 1000mhz pentium and transparency on pngs buggers up and everything works fine offline x.x

osrs · #36 11-06-2002, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
try removing the Graal trainers you have on your comp , I say this because you were just banned for hacking with a trainer on Npulse.....

maybe Sparker were NPC Admin and banned me because he doesnt like me?!
lol,shut up..

Spark910 · #37 12-14-2002, 03:29 AM

Trainers are just pathetic. Half have viruses in them...

Brandon · #38 12-28-2002, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loriel
Obviously there are still problems with the new exe
Raiden sent me this just now.

That is exactly what is happening to me, I found out it only happens (at least to me) when using 32-Bit color depth.

Zickle · #39 01-12-2003, 06:35 AM

You cant install squat now like WarCaptain and this other guy said in other threads.