Era's New Inventory

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by shrimps

I never play with sounds so I never hear these things.

Gotta at least hear some of it, Hattrix our new sounds guy does really great work. We've already got new unstick-me theme songs, casino themes, beach themes, hospital themes, and lastly underground mine themes.

[Tim_Rocks]

I don't think so, I've addressed your issues and we no longer use the 'X' toggle. The hotkeys now have their own separate location in the slots so you can easily view quantity & your hotkey association on the fly.

Good news though, I added all your items to my inventory to make sure everything would sort out okay (not sure if you'd use auto sort or not). Everything looked great and functioned as advertised.

A feature that I added that I may not of announced was an updated auto-sort that is now always sorting items into tabs as you get new items (slot locations do save, so it's not going to sort those items again). And after negative feed-back I've removed the hotkey update: you now have two options for assigning hotkeys. You can either right click item slots and assign a key to the weapon by following the instructions, or you can continue using the old system in the HUD "gear".

[Chorchizcool]

As the only person here who should have an opinion on anything:

Other than the look of the new inventory (even with mini its still very gawdy) I do like the functionality to it. As someone who is very fashion conscious on Era, I do enjoy have the ability to keep all of my hats in one tab.

My only statement is, do not get rid of the old inventory. Despite everyone wanting to push Era forward, what I think everyone likes about Era is its freedom. To PK, to spar or raid, to make outfits etc, and pushing change without choice is definitely a way to isolate yourself from the players perspective.

[shrimps]

The old inventory is the exact same as the new one if you want it to be. The new one does the exact same things as the old one, plus its bigger and is more customizable. Plus you can see more items in a column which means less scrolling, if you want, use one tab, and it's the same as the old. If you're complaining about the new inventory you're just doing it for attention and just for the sale of complaining.

[Tim_Rocks]

I suppose my main issues w/ the old inventory is that it's very hard as a developer to make new updates when parts of the script are a mix between GS1 & GS2. Another issue I see is there's just a lot of information crammed in over the years as updates were made. It can be very overwhelming for potential new players. The last thing I'd like to point out is there's just so much fragmentation between GUIs all over Era and with this update we're bringing the server a little closer to having a standard appearance.

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

I suppose my main issues w/ the old inventory is that it's very hard as a developer to make new updates when parts of the script are a mix between GS1 & GS2. Another issue I see is there's just a lot of information crammed in over the years as updates were made. It can be very overwhelming for potential new players. The last thing I'd like to point out is there's just so much fragmentation between GUIs all over Era and with this update we're bringing the server a little closer to having a standard appearance.

Era has always been; Someone(s) who played before others and has a set of opinions and feelings (usually out-dated and just trying to re-live the past)
Then; New player(s) who follow the old in chance of acceptance.
Meaning; everyone hates new things and wants the old because the old was successful and the new is undetermined.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

I do like the functionality of the new inventory, but the look of it.... ugh.
I hate that GUI skin so much on everything that uses it, not just the new inventory.

(Sorry, but basically, I'm saying everything you ever made is ugly to me, Tim XD)

That's why I made that new GUI skin that was used for the gun skin system.

[Tim_Rocks]

I'm happy to add skins for it given I have the proper graphics. I didn't know you made that GUI, something like that would look very nice if templated properly. I would like it to be white though so players can still modify colors.

[Torankusu]

Can you post screenshots since you figured out your MLedit shadowtext issue?

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Torankusu

Can you post screenshots since you figured out your MLedit shadowtext issue?

[shrimps]

Why is your item font more legible than mine? Mine isn't bold looking like yours.
Or is that what you guys are talking about? o.o

Edit: Nevermind, right after I posted this it changed a few minutes later, guess it was something you were changing. :O

[GanNing]

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by GanNing

I should make an option to change the default color for slots. You've got a couple items that blend into the background a bit.

Still waiting for possible theme ideas...

[Frankie]

only problem I have with it so far:

I like how if you hold the Q key down, the inventory will close when the key is released, but if you just tap the key it will stay open. but when you have the inventory open while holding Q, when you click the search bar the inventory closes (unless you click the search bar quickly after pressing and holding the Q key which will result in qqqqqqqqqq in the search bar) maybe have it so if you're holding the inventory open, clicking the search bar will revert to the inventory staying open when you release the Q key, but also halt any text being input until the Q key is released (to prevent qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq)

[Tim_Rocks]

I've tried fixing that search field, it seems to break/work randomly. I may just do away with that comletely unless anyone has any ideas on how to fix it.

I personally use the mini version of the inventory.

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

I've tried fixing that search field, it seems to break/work randomly. I may just do away with that comletely unless anyone has any ideas on how to fix it.

I personally use the mini version of the inventory.

You could just only show the search when they single tap it open.

I would try and simulate behavior like the windows start menu:

press Q then be able to type in M4 (or w/e) and press enter to select/use it.

[Tim_Rocks]

I'll try to mess with it tonight. I've been busy the past couple days. In order to accomplish this I'd probably just disable hotkeys/misc systems to prevent interference while it's toggled open.

Edit: I got the search bar to toggle when the inventory stays open. It's not as fluid as I'd like it to be though. Might just make it show up as an alpha transition. I'll do the type to search later.

[Zongui]

something is up with the inventory. I can't assign a key to hotkey because it keeps typing the key I want to hotkey into the search bar in the inventory. I double click the weapon to make sure I don't have a cursor in the search bar, but it still happens. I can't remove the search bar either. I think last time it was removable or at least it didn't pop up unless you wanted it to or something.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Zongui

something is up with the inventory. I can't assign a key to hotkey because it keeps typing the key I want to hotkey into the search bar in the inventory. I double click the weapon to make sure I don't have a cursor in the search bar, but it still happens. I can't remove the search bar either. I think last time it was removable or at least it didn't pop up unless you wanted it to or something.

Whoops, sorry about that, I forgot to have it check it you were trying to hotkey an item.

[Eclipse]

i say /inventory more in this game now than ANY OTHER WORD

[Tim_Rocks]

I could always disable the command so you don't have to say it anymore.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

I could always disable the command so you don't have to say it anymore.

Just disable the new inventory. Or make a legitimate toggle like every player in this thread has requested.

Seriously, I'd like to see the percentage of people that use it.

[shrimps]

Or just delete the old inventory.

[Tim_Rocks]

It says 74% of the players use the new inventory. It tells me every time I login.

[Eclipse]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

It says 74% of the players use the new inventory. It tells me every time I login.

Prove it.

And if that's true its because its forced upon everyone.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Eclipse

Prove it.

And if that's true its because its forced upon everyone.

Yea, I sometimes login and end up going to do things and afk for awhile before I pk.

I always die the first time I go into the base cause I have to stop and /inventory it back...

Put it as a toggle and after a week see how many people have it still toggled on.

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

It says 74% of the players use the new inventory. It tells me every time I login.

lmao that's a bit biased since every1 logs with the new inventory and 30% of era doesn't even know how to equip a gun

[fowlplay4]

The last remaining changes I would suggest is:

1. Re-adding that left player info window that showed current equipped item, health, cash, speed, potion, etc. As well as an option to hide it. Currently some of this information is in the right window and it just looks kind of bad since it's just a multi-line text control.
2. Updating the right item info window to show the red bars with a number over them. Perhaps let them toggle between the 'raw' version you have right now and the prettier one.

After those changes are made I don't see why anyone would want to use the old inventory.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

After those changes are made I don't see why anyone would want to use the old inventory.

New one is too dark, and too big, and off center.

In the old inventory I can select my items without even looking at the screen. It's just a preference, and I really don't see any need to change whatsoever since both essentially do the exact same thing.

But throwing this thing in our face every time we log-in is really ridiculous and unprofessional, after we asked for a legitimate toggle multiple times.

[Ramsfan]

Tim, I like your inventory.

Something I find annoying is it doesn't display my guns ammo.

[shrimps]

Originally Posted by Ramsfan

Tim, I like your inventory.

Something I find annoying is it doesn't display my guns ammo.

But it does...

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by shrimps

But it does...

You have more items in that one tab than I have in my entire inventory.

And to be fair you don't exactly pk for a living. (I see you now and then but yeah..)

Conflict of interests at its maximum. You collect and hold hundreds of thousands of items (I've seen your potions tab as well), while Rams probably just has the 2 guns I gave him and some cheese or something he stole from my house.
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If I could have a tab-less inventory with no information on the side unless I request it by right clicking a gun for example; which I can then just drag to the position I want it in; I would use it. This would fit for me. It would be x100 simpler than the one you have currently made. It would be the ultimate pk inventory. We don't want to read or sort **** or search for things, we want to set up a line of food/potions and leave our mouse on-top of that inventory slot without going blind to half of the screen every time we use it.

Until then, no I won't use your inventory, it is 5 steps in the wrong direction for my personal needs. Allow me to remove it for longer than one session. Thank you.
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Basically make a micro option you can toggle into for pk, it would only draw the first tab so you can still sort everything how you want and keep your current crap.
http://imgur.com/Al9bBko
Like this.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Until then, no I won't use your inventory, it is 5 steps in the wrong direction for my personal needs. Allow me to remove it for longer than one session. Thank you.

A) You don't have to use the tabs.
B) You had plenty of time to make suggestions for the inventory months ago.
C) An update I was considering would be perfect for PKer's. It would simply allow you to have a quick menu that's always showing five or so items that you can set-up through the inventory. Wouldn't take up more space on your screen than the HUD would.

Originally Posted by fowlplay4

The last remaining changes I would suggest is:

1. Re-adding that left player info window that showed current equipped item, health, cash, speed, potion, etc. As well as an option to hide it. Currently some of this information is in the right window and it just looks kind of bad since it's just a multi-line text control.
2. Updating the right item info window to show the red bars with a number over them. Perhaps let them toggle between the 'raw' version you have right now and the prettier one.

After those changes are made I don't see why anyone would want to use the old inventory.

I know there are some obvious improvements that should be done to the side panel. I am against doing a left side panel though, it would be better to just have the inventory dynamically update depending on what you're doing. So in the case of looking at a gun, the bars would show up along with other useful stats.

[Frankie]

why do people feel so damn entitled to have an option to keep the old inventory? as if it's uncommon for developers to create something new and push for it's use..

[bloodykiller]

Originally Posted by Frankie

why do people feel so damn entitled to have an option to keep the old inventory? as if it's uncommon for developers to create something new and push for it's use..

the old inventory was more functional in many ways. i understand that pretty boys who sit around at unstick all day prefer a coloured inventory, but some people on era like to kill and the new inventory has only brought disadvantages from that point of view.

if you go on the settings in the top left corner you'll notice that players are given various options and the inventory should be one of them. tim is just butthurt that most people dislike his inventory

[Tim_Rocks]

How exactly is the old inventory more functional? Mine takes advantage of every feature the old inventory has and more.

[Fiberwyre_P2P]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

How exactly is the old inventory more functional? Mine takes advantage of every feature the old inventory has and more.

He used the word "functional", but I think he meant "utilitarian". And if that's what he meant, then he'd be right.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Fiberwyre_P2P

He used the word "functional", but I think he meant "utilitarian". And if that's what he meant, then he'd be right.

I've cloned his inventory to my account, the amount of items he has makes the new inventory very useful.

[Elk]

i like the new one