Graal on Steam

[Tim_Rocks]

v6 needs to become a stable release that everyone is forced to use.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

v6 needs to become a stable release that everyone is forced to use.

Needs to become better before everyone is forced to use it.

[Tim_Rocks]

I am not on some high horse, it makes more sense for everyone to be using the same version of Graal. Ignorance is bliss.

Originally Posted by Crono

Needs to become better before everyone is forced to use it.

Thanks, Crono. Pretty much what I meant by "stable".

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Thanks, Crono.

Stability is not the same thing as aesthetics or functionality.

[Tim_Rocks]

The only issue that's a major problem is the FPS, which I've only seen happen on one of my PC's. That needs to be fixed if there's going to be a forced release.

Originally Posted by Crono

Stability is not the same thing as aesthetics or functionality.

Just going to assume you're talking about the player list, get used to that I suppose, I really don't think they'll be making any changes to it.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Just going to assume you're talking about the player list, get used to that I suppose, I really don't think they'll be making any changes to it.

Playerlist, profiles, the way new Windows are opened, fonts, etc. FP4 compiled a cute list somewhere but I'd have to dig it up to find it.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Crono

Playerlist, profiles, the way new Windows are opened, fonts, etc. FP4 compiled a cute list somewhere but I'd have to dig it up to find it.

I never really got the whole "down with V6 hu-ra-ra" stuff. It IS different from V5 in a lot of ways, but not all of them are bad. There are a few frustrating kinks but nothing that would prevent V6 from being a viable replacement. What's the big problem?

[Tim_Rocks]

Playerlist, and profiles seem fine to me? Do you just not like the change?

Another glitch would be highlight and leaving the window with your mouse, but that works okay for me since I'm on a Mac..

[DustyPorViva]

Texting highlighting being broken, playerlist not opening when the client is maximized and various quirks like that makes using v6 a painful experience imo.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Texting highlighting being broken, playerlist not opening when the client is maximized and various quirks like that makes using v6 a painful experience imo.

The text highlighting and PM windows not staying centered (tiled PMs ftl) is both very annoying, but I find that V6 just runs better than V5... I don't use the fullscreen mode so I can't really comment on that.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Stephen

The text highlighting and PM windows not staying centered (tiled PMs ftl) is both very annoying, but I find that V6 just runs better than V5... I don't use the fullscreen mode so I can't really comment on that.

I didn't really find much of a performance difference between v5 and v6 so I'm not really forced to pick one for better performance. Also the maximize thing means if I minimize Graal to my taskbar when I open the window back up the playerlist remains hidden until I also bring it back up. It's fairly annoying for someone like me who is constantly changing windows.

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Highlighting is broken, yes, not on Mac though.

It's funny that I hear that so much, but it doesn't change the fact that it is sorely broken on Windows.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

It's funny that I hear that so much, but it doesn't change the fact that it is sorely broken on Windows.

Yeah, always funny how the operating system most players use is the one that's broken.

[Crow]

The playerlist not sticking to the main window when minimizing/restoring Graal and the text highlighting issue are, in my opinion and from a player's view, the only things that need to be fixed before an actual release. Besides that, v6 is working quite fine.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

Do you just not like the change?

Uh, yeah? Me along with others who don't want to use v6. I've never been a fan of Graal's inbuilt Windows, so changing the old ones just worsens it. I'm aware you can pick themes but that's just dodging the issue.

Originally Posted by Stephen

I never really got the whole "down with V6 hu-ra-ra" stuff. It IS different from V5 in a lot of ways, but not all of them are bad. There are a few frustrating kinks but nothing that would prevent V6 from being a viable replacement. What's the big problem?

Font, playerlist/profile/pm Windows, etc. Windows open in awkward places, not sure how to describe it.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Also the maximize thing means if I minimize Graal to my taskbar when I open the window back up the playerlist remains hidden until I also bring it back up. It's fairly annoying for someone like me who is constantly changing windows.

Ah yes, I had that problem on windows too. On another note, Graal does a few awesome things on Mac OS, it's pretty nice.

[Tim_Rocks]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

The only real problem is the playerlist difference. v6 is overall so much nicer though, that I'm willing to overlook that.

That's more of a personal preference than a problem. I doubt that it will be changed.

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Texting highlighting being broken, playerlist not opening when the client is maximized and various quirks like that makes using v6 a painful experience imo.

Highlighting is broken, yes, not on Mac though. Not sure why, but that would be why I forgot about it. Uhm, as for the playerlist, I haven't ever experienced that issue, I always have my playerlist and Graal window in the same spot (probably why).

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

That's more of a personal preference than a problem. I doubt that it will be changed.

It's the change from v5 to v6 that the majority of players complain about, so it should be significant enough to be looked into.

[Tim_Rocks]

To be honest, you guys are going to complain no matter what happens. Which only means your complaint will be taken seriously close to never.

Originally Posted by Crow

You do realize this won't change, right?

Pretty much, I suggest just getting used to it, I hated v6 at first, now after using it for almost a year, I'm very used to it and actually prefer it.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks

To be honest, you guys are going to complain no matter what happens. Which only means your complaint will be taken seriously close to never.

If only there weren't an entire thread where many people posted countless bugs and quirks that they desired to be fixed to make v6 more accessible to them... It's as if people DO care to try to get v6 out but are largely ignored...

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Crow

You do realize this won't change, right?

Yes, I do realize that. I also realize the fonts will stay screwed.

[Jakov_the_Jakovasaur]

hello!

as it has been over 12 months since this thread was created can someone tell me if there has been any updates on graal being accessible through steam?

[RegretZ]

I don't think it's gonna happen anytime soon man. Sorry.

[baseman101]

You can add games that aren't on the Steam store to your steam library. Just press:
Games>Add a Non-Steam Game to My Library

The whole idea of iOS servers being accessable via Steam seems pretty cool. I don't see too many MMOs on Steam, and adding Graal will certainly boost the playercount a bit. It would be a good thing to consider, if Graal ever manages to pass the greenlight and pays the fees.

All-in-all, I don't see it happening, but hey, Graal made it to Android, why not Steam?

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by baseman101

You can add games that aren't on the Steam store to your steam library. Just press:
Games>Add a Non-Steam Game to My Library

The whole idea of iOS servers being accessable via Steam seems pretty cool. I don't see too many MMOs on Steam, and adding Graal will certainly boost the playercount a bit. It would be a good thing to consider, if Graal ever manages to pass the greenlight and pays the fees.

All-in-all, I don't see it happening, but hey, Graal made it to Android, why not Steam?

Graal holds a lot of potential as far as being marketable, but we do hold some rather large problems as far as product goes to give to the public eye.

Nothing a little video editing and obviously massive shaping up as a game couldn't cure

[RegretZ]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Graal holds a lot of potential as far as being marketable, but we do hold some rather large problems as far as product goes to give to the public eye.

Nothing a little video editing and obviously massive shaping up as a game couldn't cure

This. Definitely this.
The one thing I think Graal may have the most of is potential. Mainly due to the incredible flexibility of the game. With a few good developers, anything is possible.

[MattKan]

Good idea--but usually Graal tends to overlook good ideas.