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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva
Not sure why you think they're responsible for making sure someone actually reads the ToS. Then again would it matter? Would you read it if they listed it right there when you have to click to accept it? Would you read it if they made it so that you can't click that you accept until you scrolled to the bottom?
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It does matter if you read it, because that's what the intention of the ToS is for, if you're aware of the rules, you are unable to argue against a wrongdoing if you're in violation. If it is a legitimate violation claim, then yes this is perfectly fine, no arguments on it, but what about a false positive, so to speak? If they hadn't read it, they couldn't properly defend, but I think this is just my own opinion based on a hypothetical, so feel free to agree or disagree.
About your questions though, I can see where you're directing this, people are ignorant towards things in their way for their desire to play and I'll probably not be an exception.
But when I get on Graal, I'm aware that there are risky rules that can be touched upon, so on here, I do read. Usually when it's a different game, one that
does not focus on social interactions as much as Graal. I will usually stick to proper etiquette and manners.
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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva
In the end ToS aren't as binding as people think they are. Courts know that companies bull**** around with ToS and most things in ToS are only there to dissuade a costumer from pursuing legal action; and it works.
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Mhm, that's true.
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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva
I still don't see the issue here. This ToS has been in place for a year apparently. Did you notice a sudden and abrupt change a year ago that this thread is proposing would happen as all the players rights are stripped away?
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I wasn't really on Graal for the year that is being spoken up, I barely visited the game, with UN, I believe I merely posted on their forum(here and UN's in-game forums) and chatted to friends through PM. But as for people suddenly having trouble, I think there was trouble from those who spoke to me, but again, I can't really speak of that because it's trivial now.
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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva
And I agree with it. People deserve to be punished without warning. Warnings are a privilege. I know many players on Graal are *******s and trolls that try to skirt the rules to the best of their ability and get away with as much as they can. Again, someone with a long history of being a nuisance player, but never actually breaking the rules but always walking a fine line deserves to be more severely punished(and possibly with no warning) than a player who commits their first offense for something minor like accidentally getting worked up and cursing.
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Warnings are a privilege, I can agree to that. Does that mean they should be entirely disregarded? Because the way I'm reading this, it feels like you are stating it should be.