Graal Free To Play on Facebook and Android

[smirt362]

Can we get some more info on the new dev tools?

[Crow]

Originally Posted by smirt362

Can we get some more info on the new dev tools?

GS4 support. Will be another 5 years to get that for the client, though. Sorry!

[Rufus]

I don't understand. Is that a "new" server for Facebook, or is that the current iPhone server?

Originally Posted by unixmad

Graal iPhone and Pc Players will not play on the same servers.

This + Screenshot =

[Shadow5596321]

iPhone server apperently.

[Grimm753]

So what does this mean about the client/downloadable graal? Is it going to be rendered useless once facebook graal hits?

Are all the servers on current PC graal going to be reset? Are we going to lose the ability to sethead/body etc?

[Clockwork]

Originally Posted by Grimm753

So what does this mean about the client/downloadable graal? Is it going to be rendered useless once facebook graal hits?

Are all the servers on current PC graal going to be reset? Are we going to lose the ability to sethead/body etc?

Read "Era and classic".

[0PiX0]

There are many directions a free-to-play server could possibly take: Facebook, iPhone, and Android. Now, if only there were some sort of motivation to create a free-to-play server. I do not see why any decent developer would want to create a quality free-to-play server for free.

The only reason iPhone Classic and iPhone Era were created is because they had PC counterparts to copy directly. New developer tools will be nice, however that alone will not motivate developers to create new free-to-play servers. Many people may feel that more servers is a bad idea, because it spreads out the Graal population onto too many servers, but when iPhone Era was released, iPhone Classic did not lose its playercount at all. This is because iEra was advertised as a new game in the app store. So, the iPhone Graal community was expanded, not spread out.

Creating new free-to-play servers with different gameplay styles would increase the Graal's base playercount. Which, in turn, would amount to more cash flow for Eurocenter. I just do not see it happening without developers having some sort of cash payment as incentive.

[Hatred89]

The motivation is a larger playercount? Graal no longer offers unlimited classic accounts anymore right? So if you make your server capable of being free to play then it simply means more players for your server. For example Era, Zodiac, GK, Zone, and Maloria all could apply to be a free server by making cashshop items?
Also any current server in development right now would want to apply? Doesn't mean your starting from scratch and free server I am pretty sure he meant pc graal not andriod/iphone/facebook because you could already try and apply to be an iphone server.

[joel34]

Obviously, he's playing the iPhone server on facebook. Doesn't mean on release they'll have the same servers..

[Hatred89]

1) So just to sum everything up it sounds like there will be a total of 4 different era servers and 4 different classic servers. iPhone, Facebook, PC, and Andriod?
2) Playerworlds will have a chance to become free to play once they create some type of cashshop for their server I assume. So for example how on the iphone server you can purchase gelats, house, guild, or what not if you do something similar to that for your server that your server will become free to play.
3) Staff still doesn't get compensated for their hard work. We bring the money into graal and we make graal but we get nothing in return except a better game lol.

So even if you don't have an iphone/driod/facebook this will still end up bringing more players to graal once servers are set up to be free to play. This could also encourage players who have quit to return to graal. The iphone servers gets about 1k+ each roughly so having a facebook servers and driod servers will probably tripple the ammount of people on graal and increase their revenue. So its good but could of been better.

[oo_jazz_oo]

Happy about the Dev Tools...

Mixed feelings about Facebook app. Seems kind of silly to have so many servers...
Graal Classic for iPhone, Graal Classic for Android (unless adroid plays on iphone server), Graal Classic for Facebook, and Graal Classic?

Tbh, seems like a kick in the stomach to Thor and the like working on Classic pc.
"You're hard at work recreating the server? Oh, well, were just gonna release 4 identicle servers full of reused content. Kthxbai."
Unless of course you talked it over with the team at Classic...I somehow doubt that tho.

[TheGodAngelo]

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo

"You're hard at work recreating the server? Oh, well, were just gonna release 4 identicle servers full of reused content. Kthxbai."
Unless of course you talked it over with the team at Classic...I somehow doubt that tho.

technically i've been a developer on iphone and pc classic as many of my graphics end up being stolen and ported over to iphone. or atleast that's what the comments and screenshots from my friend seem to indicate. Though i only joined the Pc classic team recently.

[fowlplay4]

Due to the release of 'Flash Graal' do you have plans to publish it on kongregate.com?

[MattKan]

I think that those are some pretty cool updates.

Honestly, I know everyone has been complaining about how outdated the Graal Editor is for the past several years, and I'm kind of curious as to why you guys are still complaining? Seems like you guys just like to whine about things...

As far as Facebook and Android go, well, more publicity the better, I guess. Facebook will be cool, definitely will check it out, but will using the Facebook game give other Graalians links to my actual facebook page? Will their be privacy settings, or...?

And v6 is finally coming! That's awesome!

Good updates! This just goes to show that there is stuff actually going on behind seens; also, considering that there was more than one "news", that means Unixmad's thread from yesterday may have actually used good grammar!

Exciting! Good direction for Graal, in my opinion! Congratulations on pulling this off!

[oo_jazz_oo]

So...does this mean subscriptions aren't changing either?

Is your solution to high priced subscriptions just "Go play it on Facebook instead"? o.o

[JesusFreak250]

Read what unixmad replied to me erlier

[oo_jazz_oo]

Ok...so let me get this straight...

Unixmad fully knows that the subscription system does not fit any audience well....and his solution is just to not advertise it, so people don't play it? o.O

Instead of waiting for servers to move to item based shop systems....why not just reduce the freaking price of the subscriptions.
I'm sure that there is a price that would fit it...if you assume every player will buy 2-3 items from a shop, or buy in-game currency...figure maybe 10 dollars or so.
Could even bump it to 15.

And just charge that...oh nvm, that would make too much sense.

[Shards-Of-Fate]

o_o So, when're we going to drop names like Classic and Era for something more modern and cool like Graal Swords and Graal Guns. And while we're updating to things like facebook and cash shops. Don't forget to start advertising.


Graal: Free Forever.

[Vinka]

Originally Posted by Grimm753

So basically the current Graal PC client is being left to die? Awesome.

I don't think so, I believe it will have an indirect change to PC Graal, for the better.

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

who got new dev tools ? they never said nothiign about new dev tools lol
prob only new thing for dev part is hey kids u can make a server for facebook now and u pay us for u to make it then turn around and pay to play a server u made. im telling u pc is the main leg if it wasnt with us then there will be no graal general no era no zone,zodaic,atlanits,delteria,npluse,UN nothing ti would of been GK and classic thats it

Honsetly, shut up. You can't even begin to read, or even look at the original post that has been editted a few times to bring us more updates. We're getting new dev tools in a month or so.

Originally Posted by Grimm753

So basically the current Graal PC client is being left to die? Awesome.

Eat my pants, Unixmad. Choke on them.

I see you don't like to read threads either.

[Grimm753]

I read the thread, I must've just misinterpreted it when I read it?

Basically we either play graal on facebook, iphone, android, or not at all?

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Grimm753

I read the thread, I must've just misinterpreted it when I read it?

Basically we either play graal on facebook, iphone, android, or not at all?

Why would they spend so much time making v6 and then drop it right after they've announced a release soon?

[devilsknite1]

Originally Posted by Grimm753

I read the thread, I must've just misinterpreted it when I read it?

Basically we either play graal on facebook, iphone, android, or not at all?

Is the client being shut down? There. Your question is answered.

I personally am very thankful for this release. If one person starts playing a game on FB, it shows up to everyone. If they find it any interesting, they're probably going to download the PC client or buy the app for any form platform.

New dev tools <3

[Chompy]

Interesting! Will be sure to test this stuff out !

I sent you an email Unixmad!

[Rave_J]

who got new dev tools ? they never said nothiign about new dev tools lol
prob only new thing for dev part is hey kids u can make a server for facebook now and u pay us for u to make it then turn around and pay to play a server u made. im telling u pc is the main leg if it wasnt with us then there will be no graal general no era no zone,zodaic,atlanits,delteria,npluse,UN nothing ti would of been GK and classic thats it

[Crow]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

who got new dev tools ? they never said nothiign about new dev tools lol

You should read the OP before posting anything at all.

[nullify]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

who got new dev tools ? they never said nothiign about new dev tools lol

People who want them are talking about them.
It would be just splendid if we could get some new freaking dev tools.

[Rave_J]

oh ok i read the dev tools in may or june still they eventually going to make classic lifetime erase and then make it where everybody has to pay still my point comes down too this
why make a server for facebook or iphone or pc when they just make money off of you it wouldnt be a problem but it kind of is when u have to pay for a server then they just make money off of u if it goes up just doesnt make since if i wanted to do that y not just make ur own game with torque easily 99 dollars u can buy the torque engine which is better dev tools and not so limited to what u can do then u get updates of new tools ect. with out paying more and theres no 1 year thing either u have it so take ur time making a game.


Again how would they find pc graal if there not going to advertise the game ?
they will just go to apps since that will be advertise

[Shadow5596321]

Who said anything about removing lifetime classic from people?

[Soala]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

oh ok i read the dev tools in may or june still they eventually going to make classic lifetime erase and then make it where everybody has to pay still my point comes down too this
why make a server for facebook or iphone or pc when they just make money off of you it wouldnt be a problem but it kind of is when u have to pay for a server then they just make money off of u if it goes up just doesnt make since if i wanted to do that y not just make ur own game with torque easily 99 dollars u can buy the torque engine which is better dev tools and not so limited to what u can do then u get updates of new tools ect. with out paying more and theres no 1 year thing either u have it so take ur time making a game.

If you're complaining about how hard/expensive it is to develop a server on PC graal, I suggest you stop trying to develop anything at all.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

oh ok i read the dev tools in may or june still they eventually going to make classic lifetime erase and then make it where everybody has to pay still my point comes down too this
why make a server for facebook or iphone or pc when they just make money off of you it wouldnt be a problem but it kind of is when u have to pay for a server then they just make money off of u if it goes up just doesnt make since if i wanted to do that y not just make ur own game with torque easily 99 dollars u can buy the torque engine which is better dev tools and not so limited to what u can do then u get updates of new tools ect. with out paying more and theres no 1 year thing either u have it so take ur time making a game.

These buttons are your friend...

[Rave_J]

i said eventually they will
honestly do u really think they will keep it around
if they make it free to play im 99 percent sure its going to be a grelat shop like
its on the iphone. so y have them if there free to play

[Rave_J]

i have quit i havent dev on graal for 2 years due to not worth it no more. i been working on better things with my freetime

[Admins]

Letting all facebook players on the current (single) Classic iPhone server would probably crash the server So by default players will play on different severs/shards, but there will be special options for iPhone players to access the server from their Facebook account, which will be announced later.

[Rave_J]

well stefan question
dont u guys think servers should be for free now due pc is the only thing that will keep facebook servers alive and iphone its kind of like branching pc verison to support everything ? i just dont think its fair for devs when theres nothing in return while u guys make all the money for really not that much. UC servers where talking about

[Admins]

I've attached an Era screenshot to the original post

[Rave_J]

Well im done fighting I just feel like there ripping us off. i remember when stefan gave free servers out,classic status ect didnt care about the money. and now all i feel like he use us for is to get money for him thats it. Dev for graal use too be fun cuz it was u make things for players pc to enjoy but that was free graal ect now its buy a server ya u make ur own game but for them to make money off of it. Just dont make sense

[MysticalDragon]

I think its awsome how graal has finally decided on a way to boost the player count. I Look foward of adding Delteria to facebook.

[Sinkler]

Originally Posted by Rave_J

Well im done fighting I just feel like there ripping us off. i remember when stefan gave free servers out,classic status ect didnt care about the money. and now all i feel like he use us for is to get money for him thats it. Dev for graal use too be fun cuz it was u make things for players pc to enjoy but that was free graal ect now its buy a server ya u make ur own game but for them to make money off of it. Just dont make sense

Rave...besides the obvious difficulties you have with English language, I must say your argument isn't really strong. Just because things were different in the past doesn't mean that it's going to stay the same. Stefan and Unixmad (from their recent posts and changes) have shown they're planning on moving forward with Graal. What I think most people misunderstand is the fact that Cyberjouers is a For-Profit business, not a "lets make a free game" business. So yes Rave, their goals are money-oriented as they should be to be successful.

It really, really does make sense Rave....

[MattKan]

What's this about Graal iPhone VIP subscription? Can you make it so you don't have to pay for it if you have an active subscription to Graal PC?