What Next? - Page 2

Deas_Voice · #1 05-13-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MrName

Good idea :O Smart boy

yeah i know

MagikMasterMind · #2 05-14-2010, 04:51 AM

You want to attract players or not? Two man bikes or being able to shoot while crawling wont get you a player count; learn with the past - the roll skill failed to raise the
playercount. Ya sure they are good ideas, but they wont revive Zone, trust me.

Try comming up with something new and attractive to players, give them a goal, a reason to play Zone. That's why my idea would be a bigger but better project in the end result.

Shadow5596321 · #3 05-14-2010, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MagikMasterMind

You want to attract players or not? Two man bikes or beong able to shoot while crawling wont get you a player count; learn woth the past - the roll skill failed.

Try comming up with something new and attractive to players, give them a goal, a reason tp play Zone. That's why my idea would be a bigger but better project in the end result.

WTS Thread giving your ideas.

wait, you not buying. you shoo now.

MagikMasterMind · #4 05-14-2010, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321

WTS Thread giving your ideas.

wait, you not buying. you shoo now.

I don't get it.

But ya sure, I'll encourage Zone to get even worse with fail updates. Ya, for sure my idea would need revision to prevent abuse and all but it is a project that may be good in the end unlike all the other ideas I saw in this thread.

@Donark : Link with the idea
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=83391

Imperialistic · #5 05-14-2010, 11:31 AM

I really hope to see someone else running the development on this server, thats my 2 cents.

Stephen · #6 05-15-2010, 02:22 AM

Sean, in case you're just tuning in - I don't have enough developers and no administrative support. I'm not looking for the "The Update", I just need to start steering Zone in the right direction and building the base player count with the few resources I have.

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Originally Posted by Sam

Crono hits the nail on the head. Time to work, my little friend.

I'd love to say the same for you, but I don't want to get anyone's hopes up - we all know how well you play THAT game.

seanthien · #7 05-15-2010, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Sean, in case you're just tuning in - I don't have enough developers and no administrative support. I'm not looking for the "The Update", I just need to start steering Zone in the right direction and building the base player count with the few resources I have.

Base playercount?

A playercount that will last a week and then once again leave?

Limited resources doesn't mean the project can't be done. It just takes time.

BigBear3 · #8 05-23-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I don't have enough developers and no administrative support.

Wait.. Isn't this supposed to be the part where the GDT comes flying in on white stallions?

Change the GFX and name of the Gravity Hammer.

fowlplay4 · #9 05-23-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3

Wait.. Isn't this supposed to be the part where the GDT comes flying in on white stallions?

If they are ever going to help a server it should be the golden ones.

kia345 · #10 05-23-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

If they are ever going to help a server it should be the golden ones.

If a server is known to be low quality, it shouldn't be a gold server.

kadaj15 · #11 05-15-2010, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stephen

i've been waiting for instructions from on high; stefan. Not anymore.

What do you guys want? We'll use this thread to throw out suggestions and for general discussion. After that i'll boil the best down and have a vote.

Keep it simple, i'm not interested in making zone 2.0 from this thread. A good example is sticky grenades. A single new game mechanism to improve on existing game mechanics... Freshen things up a bit. Remember, keep it simple or gtfo.

awesome!!

kadaj15 · #12 05-15-2010, 09:00 AM

.Make something new like a mission or quest for a reason to play and acheive stuff. Like if you beat this quest you can get money and a limited gun or melee weapon. And for harder quest on mission you can earn hp. Maybe this one can be for gold to earn more hp. These mission can lead to more player count and more fun.

pooper200000 · #13 05-15-2010, 02:55 PM

I really want to see a new tileset on Zone, but I'm not sure that is the easiest task.

fowlplay4 · #14 05-16-2010, 05:55 AM

If Zone can't pull off simple updates/fixes, what chance does it have of pulling anything off?

Of course we all want that magical update that makes 50 players play on the regular again but that's just completely unrealistic especially considering how understaffed they may be.

There's no sense overworking on a large update that could possibly flop, and leave you with burned out staff members.

seanthien · #15 05-16-2010, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4

If Zone can't pull off simple updates/fixes, what chance does it have of pulling anything off?

Of course we all want that magical update that makes 50 players play on the regular again but that's just completely unrealistic especially considering how understaffed they may be.

There's no sense overworking on a large update that could possibly flop, and leave you with burned out staff members.

Did you read that thread I linked?

No way that's unreasonable.
If you can't do that, because you're understaffed, there's a problem, and part of it may as well be you.
Get the picture? (This isn't directed at you, of course)

rushed edit
Small updates won't help the server, it'd be a waste of time and effort.
Mine as well put that to better use.

fowlplay4 · #16 05-16-2010, 07:10 AM

I read the thread and saw a lot of small updates (updates that don't require a significant amount of work), since a lot of it was just undoing changes that were made in the first place.

Now is probably the best time to start removing the gelat shop, and other things that completely ruined the balance Zone may have had.

Being able to legally buy yourself into OPness with real money should of never happened in the first place but it's obvious that some amount of greed took place.

Obviously there's been a miscommunication between what a small and large update is. The time taken, and amount of people required to perform the task are what I consider, not the amount of small details or effect that it'll have.

fleshkiller · #17 05-16-2010, 07:35 AM

Add rainbow rifle

DustyPorViva · #18 05-16-2010, 07:42 AM

A positive change is a positive change no matter how small or large. I wish people would stop thinking that it's a "waste of time" to fix smaller things just because bigger changes are needed.

Sorry, it just doesn't work like that.

StormYs · #19 05-16-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I wish people would stop thinking that it's a "waste of time" to fix smaller things just because bigger changes are needed.

Sorry, it just doesn't work like that.

Priorities. The bigger changes (if they are usefull) have a way higher prior then little changes.

DustyPorViva · #20 05-16-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StormYs

Priorities. The bigger changes (if they are usefull) have a way higher prior then little changes.

Ya, there are priorities, but like I said... that's just not how it works.

StormYs · #21 05-17-2010, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Ya, there are priorities, but like I said... that's just not how it works.

Seems like our views are clashing. Prior changes are required no matter how big or small the change is and imo zone needs a big change and from there on work on the smaller things. Because Zone in it's whole is fail atm.
But this thread isn't here asking us to give idea for big changes so i'll drop this.

I forgot to say, but I'll give Stephen a thumb up for asking us what we want to see in Zone.

I would like to see this more in Graal, the communication/idea sharing between staff and players.

MrName · #22 05-16-2010, 06:14 PM

I think that Zone's needs a better Manager, Not just talking about Stephen.. He is a good manager, Though not for Zone. Also Stefan shouldnt be needed to make updates and stuff.. The manager should do that with his staff.

Shadow5596321 · #23 05-16-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MrName

I think that Zone's needs a better Manager, Not just talking about Stephen.. He is a good manager, Though not for Zone. Also Stefan shouldnt be needed to make updates and stuff.. The manager should do that with his staff.

Unixmad/Stefan doesn't trust anyone else to do so.

MrName · #24 05-16-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow5596321

Unixmad/Stefan doesn't trust anyone else to do so.

Well Stefan likes Zone, It's actually ''his'' server.. If he likes it that much he should find someone who he does trust.

Crono · #25 05-16-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrName

It's actually ''his'' server..

MrName · #26 05-16-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono

It's not? I thought stefan owned zone

RebelArbiter · #27 05-17-2010, 09:04 AM

Considering changing zone to what was essentially a "gold only" server was one of the things that killed it, giving trials a reason to play again might be a good idea

kia345 · #28 05-18-2010, 02:52 AM

I've briefly been playing Zone, and if there was something to keep other players there, it wouldn't be too bad.

Also, option to hide playerchat.

JOK3RZLEADER · #29 05-24-2010, 01:46 AM

Umm, can you get rid of that DAMN RED BLOB!? It is extremely annoying because it glitches 24/7. Also there should be an option to toggle the HP bar on/off. I know this has been suggested but I just wanted to repeat it.

Anyways, there were a few neat ideas suggested in this thread and some of them should definitely be implemented (but I honestly do not see this happening anytime soon). Avoid updates like a new planet (Bunker was definitely the biggest flop of ALL TIME, it is a terrible planet). Also avoid useless updates like the spar focus, I doubt anyone uses that thing.

Honestly, if people would just LOG ON to zone, other players would log on as well. People tend to usually log onto servers which their friends are on. (Just saying)

Shadow5596321 · #30 05-24-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JOK3RZLEADER

Umm, can you get rid of that DAMN RED BLOB!? It is extremely annoying because it glitches 24/7. Also there should be an option to toggle the HP bar on/off. I know this has been suggested but I just wanted to repeat it.

Get rid of all of this.

Here's another idea to support trials to become gold.

People who have gold get early access into stuff. (Atleast a week before trials.)

alexrox222 · #31 05-24-2010, 08:45 AM

Don't be so lazy people...

C: \Program Files\Graal\Levels\Images lies the HP bars. Open one, colour it in with transparency. Copy the one you changed, and paste it over each of the HP bar stages.

Same goes for the Menstruational blob.

As pertaining to small/large updates... we need a large update to achieve playercountness. We need small updates to keep the playercountness playing as playercount.

We need a point to play the game. Why would we play, anyways? I wouldn't like to see Zone go down the road of a non skill based game, but there needs to be some kinda of balance. The reason nobody plays is because it's boring.

This isn't going to happen, but if Zone were set back to the V4 times, life would be sweet.

Nasgoroth · #32 06-01-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I've been waiting for instructions from on high; Stefan. Not anymore.

He's not around to give you instructions because he is busy developing the next client. When v6 is out he should have a lot more involvement if you bug him enough