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I wouldn't do a project with an economy, especially if you're new to development. I'd focus on complete arcade-style gameplay. You could unlock better guns by missions or achievements.
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Uhh well just a suggestion, how about you make it where theres no econemy, the guns are free, but you have to find the guns all around the gmap along with ammo and explosives and plenty of other military things. Story: Military came here to stop zombies and failed and left endless supplies of weaponary, explosives, heavy artillery and so on.

I think this would create more exploration and make it a lot better on the server as something new and different to modern servers. Please reply back.
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Uhh well just a suggestion, how about you make it where theres no econemy, the guns are free, but you have to find the guns all around the gmap along with ammo and explosives and plenty of other military things. Story: Military came here to stop zombies and failed and left endless supplies of weaponary, explosives, heavy artillery and so on.

I think this would create more exploration and make it a lot better on the server as something new and different to modern servers. Please reply back.
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Well...uh the server does look like crap.

I think your in the state of mind that most American Idol try-outers have, they think they have an amazing voice, but when simon and everyone says they dont, they are oblivious to it.
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Uhh well just a suggestion, how about you make it where theres no econemy, the guns are free, but you have to find the guns all around the gmap along with ammo and explosives and plenty of other military things. Story: Military came here to stop zombies and failed and left endless supplies of weaponary, explosives, heavy artillery and so on.

I think this would create more exploration and make it a lot better on the server as something new and different to modern servers. Please reply back.
Yeah, or it would allow Zombies to completely obliterate everything in the entire universe, hence-forth "Apocalypse".
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I think making the assumption that this will be a era/ghetto duplicate is just as criminal as the person making the duplicate server. Give the guy suggestions, don't attack him.

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My thoughts:

1. Every hour spawns a ton of zombies on the gmap
2. Everything not bolted to the ground is moveable to create barriers.
3. Inner City to defend (most protected wont die as much)
4. Outer City to scavenge (you're pretty much a sitting duck to zombies)
5. If you don't want strictly PVE you can have people select between Classes/Races
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Bad Human (Kills other Human players for supplies or cash for supplies)
Zombie (Incredible Speed and Melee will be hard to make balanced vs guns)
6. Repair Kits that you can buy from the inner city or scavenge in the outer city
7. If you're going to do a achievement/experience thing for better weapons and perks.. then. If zombies achieve destroying the inner city they get exp towards leveling. If you're a human then killing zombies and successfully repairing blockades give exp.

I'm sure I missed a few points but this is a starter.
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Bad Human (Kills other Human players for supplies or cash for supplies)
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That means that Good Humans only kill zombies, and Bad Humans kill the Good Humans whom can't kill the Bad Humans.
And then everyone wants to be the Bad Humans and the Good Humans go to waste.
And then it's Era with Zombie baddies.
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No.
That means that Good Humans only kill zombies, and Bad Humans kill the Good Humans whom can't kill the Bad Humans.
And then everyone wants to be the Bad Humans and the Good Humans go to waste.
And then it's Era with Zombie baddies.


So you honestly think I would let Bad Humans just kill and not be killed? No. There will be PK between Goods and Bads but the good won't gain exp from killing, but the bad humans would have a penalty of some sort..

But there will be benefits for being a Good Human..

I'm all about balancing on 3 choices.

Don't jump to conclusions on me.
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Hi Vega United,

Would you mind deleting the stolen graphics from Noctorious? I'm happy that you like our images so bad that you are using them, But we don't want you to.

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Oh ya

Yep I am a rare voice, although there isn't much to expect from this server.

Why: Most modern servers fail and cannot make it. Others are like Graal Ghetto and such with a bad community and corrupted staff and are dead.

I'd like to see this server actually become something though considering the idea is well and if you think everything out correctly hopefully you'll become successful in making it a brand new modern server.
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Yep I am a rare voice, although there isn't much to expect from this server.

Why: Most modern servers fail and cannot make it. Others are like Graal Ghetto and such with a bad community and corrupted staff and are dead.

I'd like to see this server actually become something though considering the idea is well and if you think everything out correctly hopefully you'll become successful in making it a brand new modern server.
Ill bet 1 million gelates that the server will turn in to a noob themed amusement park. Everyone who logs on gets a free staff stick and jailing rights! have fun!
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Your basically right.

Your basically right Old_Days 99% tells me this server will fail.

1% tells me it could make it <3

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Would you mind deleting the stolen graphics from Noctorious? I'm happy that you like our images so bad that you are using them, But we don't want you to.

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if you mean those lockers, not stolen. want proof?
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if you mean those lockers, not stolen. want proof?
Dohh wth stupid angel! He told me he would get them off :[
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Are you going to make a tileset for it at all, or are you sticking with the 8Bit DOOM look?

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Because people will be like ''Ewhh other servers also have that''
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Because people will be like ''Ewhh other servers also have that''
It's an old graphic of a cabinet. I'm certain the only person who cares is you :P
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I'm going to be entirely honest with you because I've been in the same position you are in right now. Unless you go into this with a solid plan, you are going to fail.

Right now, I'm seeing a 0% chance of success for this server...why? Because you have absolutely no clue what you are doing.

I strongly suggest you figure out what you want out of this server, set up a list which prioritizes the work that needs to be done, find supporters if you can, get some very basic work done to show (visuals work wonders), and then come back here and ask for help. Ideally, you should have done all of this BEFORE renting the server, but it's better late than never. Get organized, or just quit before you waste even more of your time.
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I'm going to be entirely honest with you because I've been in the same position you are in right now. Unless you go into this with a solid plan, you are going to fail.

Right now, I'm seeing a 0% chance of success for this server...why? Because you have absolutely no clue what you are doing.

I strongly suggest you figure out what you want out of this server, set up a list which prioritizes the work that needs to be done, find supporters if you can, get some very basic work done to show (visuals work wonders), and then come back here and ask for help. Ideally, you should have done all of this BEFORE renting the server, but it's better late than never. Get organized, or just quit before you waste even more of your time.
This is completly untrue Sales.

When i bought my server, When it was called The Light i didn't even know what RC was and ****.. And now see what the server came to, Personally i think Noctorious is a very nice server.

I never had a clue of what i was doing, And i didn't even know how to open RC, How it owkred and everything. We have had many different tilesets, staffs, items, graphics, scripts and idea's, And still this have come out of nothing!
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So you honestly think I would let Bad Humans just kill and not be killed? No. There will be PK between Goods and Bads but the good won't gain exp from killing, but the bad humans would have a penalty of some sort..

But there will be benefits for being a Good Human..

I'm all about balancing on 3 choices.

Don't jump to conclusions on me.
I still don't like that idea. It doesn't make sense IMO.
Maybe "fend for yourself" for everyone but no one should get exp from killing while another person doesn't. Maybe stat bonuses over the other, sure.

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This is completly untrue Sales.

When i bought my server, When it was called The Light i didn't even know what RC was and ****.. And now see what the server came to, Personally i think Noctorious is a very nice server.

I never had a clue of what i was doing, And i didn't even know how to open RC, How it owkred and everything. We have had many different tilesets, staffs, items, graphics, scripts and idea's, And still this have come out of nothing!
That's because you had people do most things for you and teach you.
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This is completly untrue Sales.

When i bought my server, When it was called The Light i didn't even know what RC was and ****.. And now see what the server came to, Personally i think Noctorious is a very nice server.

I never had a clue of what i was doing, And i didn't even know how to open RC, How it owkred and everything. We have had many different tilesets, staffs, items, graphics, scripts and idea's, And still this have come out of nothing!
Talk to me when your server is successful.

But hey, if your end-goal is mediocrity or just to fool around and copy an already existing server, then by all means continue on your lack of a path.
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It's true that it has been a long time that a real awesome server came up Dusty, But it keeps getting harder getting real good developers on this game!
+ All the really good awesome Dev's are doing work for Stefan which they get paid for and then they say no to new servers.
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They're not allowed to work on a server? That's what TSA told me
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I don't think this is true, a couple of them work on servers as far as i know.
And it'd be kinda backfiring if the few staff working on a server would have to leave that to go and help some other servers, would be kinda pointless.
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I think making the assumption that this will be a era/ghetto duplicate is just as criminal as the person making the duplicate server. Give the guy suggestions, don't attack him.

The idea is cool, and graphics can be fixed once ideas are realized.
Agreed, we are fixing our tileset now.

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My thoughts:

1. Every hour spawns a ton of zombies on the gmap
2. Everything not bolted to the ground is moveable to create barriers.
3. Inner City to defend (most protected wont die as much)
4. Outer City to scavenge (you're pretty much a sitting duck to zombies)
5. If you don't want strictly PVE you can have people select between Classes/Races
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Good Human (Does things without being bad)
Bad Human (Kills other Human players for supplies or cash for supplies)
Zombie (Incredible Speed and Melee will be hard to make balanced vs guns)
6. Repair Kits that you can buy from the inner city or scavenge in the outer city
7. If you're going to do a achievement/experience thing for better weapons and perks.. then. If zombies achieve destroying the inner city they get exp towards leveling. If you're a human then killing zombies and successfully repairing blockades give exp.

I'm sure I missed a few points but this is a starter.
Great Idea, will consider using it. Although we will need to greatly expand on this idea.

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No.
That means that Good Humans only kill zombies, and Bad Humans kill the Good Humans whom can't kill the Bad Humans.
And then everyone wants to be the Bad Humans and the Good Humans go to waste.
And then it's Era with Zombie baddies.
Exactly. This is a good idea, but it just needs a little more work.

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Would you mind deleting the stolen graphics from Noctorious? I'm happy that you like our images so bad that you are using them, But we don't want you to.

Thank you,
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The lockers are in the free tiles section.

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Ill bet 1 million gelates that the server will turn in to a noob themed amusement park. Everyone who logs on gets a free staff stick and jailing rights! have fun!
You owe me 1 million "gelates." Because, we won't do that.

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So you honestly think I would let Bad Humans just kill and not be killed? No. There will be PK between Goods and Bads but the good won't gain exp from killing, but the bad humans would have a penalty of some sort..

But there will be benefits for being a Good Human..

I'm all about balancing on 3 choices.

Don't jump to conclusions on me.
Yeah, expand on this idea more.

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Are you going to make a tileset for it at all, or are you sticking with the 8Bit DOOM look?

I'll help get ya going. Account still has a month or so of GOLD left, may as well use it to fight zambies. Forum PM or AIM @ Me, your choice.
Making a better tileset as I type. I will forum PM you.

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I'm going to be entirely honest with you because I've been in the same position you are in right now. Unless you go into this with a solid plan, you are going to fail.

Right now, I'm seeing a 0% chance of success for this server...why? Because you have absolutely no clue what you are doing.

I strongly suggest you figure out what you want out of this server, set up a list which prioritizes the work that needs to be done, find supporters if you can, get some very basic work done to show (visuals work wonders), and then come back here and ask for help. Ideally, you should have done all of this BEFORE renting the server, but it's better late than never. Get organized, or just quit before you waste even more of your time.
I will admit, we are a LITTLE unorganized, a not too bad though. We are very effiicent when it comes to getting work done. We have about 6-8 guns done with walk, idle, and fire animations. Kody Stund and I are getting starting on making the reload animations. One reload animation is currently done. Also, our gun system is complete. Now, we need to just get health script completed.

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Share the love. Globals should really work on ALL servers, not just a select few
Agreed, too lazy, and too un-nice.

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Gun System done.
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Congrats! Now keep going, even when things get slow, you can't give up. EVERY developing sever will/has hit a period will work will come to a halt. If you don't give up at this point, and make it through; I have no doubt you server will be a success. Zodiac for a while was a *dead* server and because a few people stuck with it, it made it through.
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Heh. You said period.
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Congrats! Now keep going, even when things get slow, you can't give up. EVERY developing sever will/has hit a period will work will come to a halt. If you don't give up at this point, and make it through; I have no doubt you server will be a success. Zodiac for a while was a *dead* server and because a few people stuck with it, it made it through.
Thanks for the pep talk. I'm still trying to work and get more staffs! People don't help as much as they used to. Need scripters z.z

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You let me have your gun script. You wont be able to take this offer back after you accept it.
As far as I know they're still using the one I made in ~15 minutes. Let me know if they're *******s and won't give it to you.
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