Stat changes/updates.

[Cubes]

thats like saying give hammerouge +2 con because there is only 2

[Noobie8205]

Originally Posted by shrimps

I'm going to suggest Sash of Clarity to have +1 magic.

Current: (Int+1)(Cha+1)(Pow+2)

Revised 1: (Int+1)(Pow+2)(Magic+1)

It's a caster belt and It shouldn't be mandatory to get regen from only rings and hats, and allow mix and match. Plus even if you have Magic+7 only +2 of the magic is going to do any difference.

Please... I mean really putting charm on any item is about the dumbest thing possible.. Since all you ever need is the scroll of shopping.. wtf is charm going to do for my cast? make it talk it's way into hitting someone?

Another good example...

Elvens (+3 Speed)(Stealth) How useless.. another filler stat that does nothing.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Noobie8205

Elvens (+3 Speed)(Stealth) How useless.. another filler stat that does nothing.

Monsters don't aggro from as close if you have Stealth. (I think.)

But yeah, pretty useless. Kinda cool from a roleplaying standpoint if you could just sneak by monsters.

[kia345]

Wood bracers could use a buff.

Current: luck +1

There's no ac, no resistances, nothing. They're only good for blessing. Slap on some ac. Or give them dex or wis or something. With just one luck, they're pretty useless, might as well be craftable with that.

Revised: luck +1, ac +1 (or some other stat modifier)

[Googi]

Originally Posted by kia345

There's no ac, no resistances, nothing. They're only good for blessing. Slap on some ac. Or give them dex or wis or something. With just one luck, they're pretty useless, might as well be craftable with that.

Wood bracers are "supposed" to be inferior to bronze, gold and ice bracers, since they cost fewer ECs to make (back in the day).

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Googi

Wood bracers are "supposed" to be inferior to bronze, gold and ice bracers, since they cost fewer ECs to make (back in the day).

That works then

Originally Posted by Iscariot_p2p

More on Mangan

There's several other useless swords like that, Golden Kryss, Diamond Force, Ruby Blade, Blood Sabre.

[MajinDragon]

Phoenix Helmet
Current: speed+1 ac+2
Revised: Str-1 Con+2 speed+1 ac+1 resist fire+15
Reason: All agreed it's pretty crappy, ugly w/o the shield to somehow justify why you're wearing it. Boost not just because it's ugly, but because the phoenix set has no real relavance to the name other than speed... the stats on the helm however, are pretty crappy since the common cowboy hat has better stats... Phoenix's are usually associated with rebirth and therefore, prolonged life, hence Con+2, and fire resist to simply add more of a phoenix theme. Having con+2 would switch things up quit a bit though... So added Str-1 to soften it up, otherwise we'd be making an elite item out of nothing.

Orange Belt of Speed
Current: speed+1 armour+8 resist magic+5
Revised: speed+3 armor+8 resist magic+5
Reason: Not so speedy when Glok and BoCH give more of a speed boost...

Shield of the Sun
Current: Wis+1 ac+2 resist electricity+10
Revised: Wis+1 Pow+1 ac+2 resist fire+10/20

Justification: Pretty rare, the refference to sun should give it a fire element, don't see why it was chosen to have electricity resist instead. Also, the sun is associated with power i guess, revised stats don't seem too OP'd.

Wizard hat (purple)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist magic+25 attuned:mind
Rename: Purple Wizard Hat
Reason: Magic hats are far too generic, all the same yet there are raritys, obvious differences and room for a bit of diversity. This is the reason for all suggestions following. Can allow any player to recover their old sorcerers hat from the guy who teaches you magic, even oldbies. If these changes were implimented, a Sorcerer's hat would give the basic magic+1 ac+1 and there'd be no worries.

Wizard hat (red)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist fire+25 attuned:fire
Rename: Red Wizard Hat
Reason: -

White Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised magic+1 ac+1 resist holyword+25 attuned:healing,self
Reason: -

Black Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist death+25 attuned:wounding,death
Reason: -

Wizard Hat (green)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: magic+1 ac+1 resist poison+25
Rename: Green Wizard Hat
Reason: - *unsure if it's already named that.

Golden Wizard Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: luck+2 magic+2 ac+1 attuned: mind
Reason -

White Star Wizard Hat
Current: magic+2 ac+1
Revised: Wis+2 magic+2 ac+1 resist holyword+30 attuned:healing,self
Regfx: It's ugly
Reason -

Wizard Hat (black star)
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: Pow+1 magic+2 ac+1 resist death+30 attuned:wounding,death
Rename: Black Star Wizard Hat
Reason: -

Witch Hat
Current: magic+1 ac+1
Revised: Int+2 Cha-1 magic+2 ac+1 resist magic+40
Reason: -

[Iscariot_p2p]

Ya I would say wood bracers dont really need a change. They serve their purpose. That is why they are cheap.

and as far at the mangan goes CUBES. Im not saying it should get the stats because there are only two. Im saying its a cool old relic that deserves better stats and maybe a small rerelease for that matter afterward. The reason I mentioned there only being 2 is that if the stats were upgraded nobody would care since they arent really in activity unlike when a bunch of phoenix helms were release and all previous owners were pissed because the value dropped off.

Also Klay. If you read the quote it says cha+1 for current and then he took it off lol He isnt adding it he is getting rid of it

[Mousymee]

Originally Posted by Iscariot_p2p

Also Klay. If you read the quote it says cha+1 for current and then he took it off lol He isnt adding it he is getting rid of it

His please was for the change Aj mentioned, as in yes please make that change yadig

[kia345]

Me and Majin were throwing this around: KJ and ZSoH are two of the only shields made of adamant on the server. When you think of an adamant shield, you think of pretty much lugging around a heavily enchanted wall the deflects PAIN. In reality, both of these shields have a lousy ac coupled with a single, okay stat. Dustari on the other hand has a nice Str+1 and Speed+1, and CP has Str +1 and +2 ac, letting you block more hits, and land more of your own. ZSoH has Wis and Pow, and that's it, which is nice for being a stationary mage (who somehow needs to avoid taking physical damage), and KJ has +1 Con and +1 ac, which really just lets you get hit one more time as opposed to avoiding more hits.

Kurenai Joukai Shield
Current: Con +1, ac +1
Revised: Con +1, ac +2 or 3

Zormite Shield of Honor
Current: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +1
Revised: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +2 or 3

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by kia345

Me and Majin were throwing this around: KJ and ZSoH are two of the only shields made of adamant on the server. When you think of an adamant shield, you think of pretty much lugging around a heavily enchanted wall the deflects PAIN. In reality, both of these shields have a lousy ac coupled with a single, okay stat. Dustari on the other hand has a nice Str+1 and Speed+1, and CP has Str +1 and +2 ac, letting you block more hits, and land more of your own. ZSoH has Wis and Pow, and that's it, which is nice for being a stationary mage (who somehow needs to avoid taking physical damage), and KJ has +1 Con and +1 ac, which really just lets you get hit one more time as opposed to avoiding more hits.

Kurenai Joukai Shield
Current: Con +1, ac +1
Revised: Con +1, ac +2 or 3

Zormite Shield of Honor
Current: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +1
Revised: Wis +1, Pow +1, ac +2 or 3

I'd say ac +3 on both considering pirate shield has ac+2 and is made of metal.

[Vincent3313]

Red Belt of Damage?
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
-Considering I got this off Graal Lib, I'm not sure if it's up to date.
I've never seen anyone with this, so I'm sure it's somewhat rare. Why such crappy stats? If they went out of there way to put the Damage part of it, shouldn't they have much more then that? It should have at least 3 damage. And possibly a little more fire resistance?

Red Belt of Damage
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
Revised: Dam+3, Ac+1, Resist Fire + 15

[Craigus]

Originally Posted by Vincent3313

Red Belt of Damage?
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
-Considering I got this off Graal Lib, I'm not sure if it's up to date.
I've never seen anyone with this, so I'm sure it's somewhat rare. Why such crappy stats? If they went out of there way to put the Damage part of it, shouldn't they have much more then that? It should have at least 3 damage. And possibly a little more fire resistance?

Red Belt of Damage
Current: Dam+1, Armour+8, Resist Fire+5
Revised: Dam+3, Ac+1, Resist Fire + 15

I think i have a few they were free easter belts i have black belt of weapons orange belt of speed and blue belt of armour to, something along those lines

[BigBear3]

Green Sahuagin Coat
Current stats: none

Revised Stats: Cha+30

I mean come on.. Look at it.

[MajinDragon]

Easter Basket
Current: speed+1 ac+1 sustenance+5 (made of: metal)
Revised: speed+1 ac+1 luck+2 sustenance+20 (made of: leather, organics)
Reason:Very rare, 3 of a kind and to my knowledge will stay like that, sus is a stat that isn't quite common and it's a basket of foot essentially... easters a time usually associated with good luck, this easter definately was, i was suprised to not see luck on this shield.

[Gothika]

If you want to add more stats then atleast only 1 luck.

[MajinDragon]

Okay these are two suggestions for swords.

Red Xmas Scarf
Current: no stats
Revised: Cha+2 resist cold+15
Justificaition: Nice looking, without stats and quite rare nowdays (i'm led to believe). No harm in these stats that obviously relate to the item.

[kia345]

Zormite Equipment
Current: nonexistent
Revised: existent

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by sango_ku

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134257012

We have already talk to CP glove stat... so i think its tme to do anything

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Well, I don't think it needs to have wc on it unless we remove ac from it. Maybe it could have some magical resistances or so, or maybe damage.

He already spoke on this matter. Next please.

[Gothika]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

He already spoke on this matter. Next please.

He said "it doesn't need wc"...

ALL THEY HAVE IS WC!

[StormYs]

Originally Posted by Gothika

He said "it doesn't need wc"...

ALL THEY HAVE IS WC!

Lol, it should be statless.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

He already spoke on this matter. Next please.

...What the hell?

[kia345]

Why wasn't this thread taken seriously? Fix existing items, stop adding new toys to make the old ones inferior.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by kia345

Why wasn't this thread taken seriously? Fix existing items, stop adding new toys to make the old ones inferior.

Hear hear!

[Seeya]

I'd want one speed added to ZsoH just to have an epic shield, but i don't really have a justification besides the fact i own one. uh.

I say we need to just add magic+ to a lot of mage gear, we're deprived of it. People have to change there whole setups just to get some magic+ if they don't depend on magic rings.

[Conqueror]

You know that cape that takes 3 EC's to make? They should but like.. 15 sustenance on that thing. I'd love a sus cape.. teehee

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by sengir

The havoks are fine right now. But the marks could get a bit of wc and it would rock! And for the Easter Basket, being that its 3 of a kind it should have awesome stats and kick ass Now I just need one to match my Bunny Suit and a tail....

marks are also fine
Easter Basket just needs to be made of organics & leather and if any boost in stats just luck possibly some extra sus as sus ammy has more sus & is spawnable.

Originally Posted by Conqueror

You know that cape that takes 3 EC's to make? They should but like.. 15 sustenance on that thing. I'd love a sus cape.. teehee

Aurum Garb, yea the stats suck thoroughly, really does need to be looked at. When cloaks were released, all cloaks were seen as understandably average stat wise, offering simple resists. When word broke out of a cloak that took 3ec's to make, everyone safely assumed it had better stats than all the other cloaks. Infact it was the worst cloak of all... Should have been looked over alot sooner.

[BigBear3]

Pow+7 on Sceptre of Darkness

[sango_ku]

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hp?t=134257012

We have already talk to CP glove stat... so i think its tme to do anything

[nullify]

I want wood bracers that are made of wood.

[MajinDragon]

Woah... tension.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by MajinDragon

Woah... tension.

sort of like with you and dusty huh

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by kia345

sort of like with you and dusty huh

There's no tension between me and Dustari.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by kia345

sort of like with you and dusty huh

hay leave dusty out of dis.

[Seeya]

I think we need more +2 speed boots, right now, off the top of my head, i can only think of Bakers, but who knows where those are.

with this said,
original:Pirate Boots (ac+2) (speed+1) (armour +5)
new: Pirate Boots (ac+2)(speed+2)(dex-1)

I would do Dustari boots, but i'd recognize CP Boots as rarer then Dustari Boots.

[joel34]

Originally Posted by Seeya

I think we need more +2 speed boots, right now, off the top of my head, i can only think of Bakers, but who knows where those are.

with this said,
original:Pirate Boots (ac+2) (speed+1) (armour +5)
new: Pirate Boots (ac+2)(speed+2)(dex-1)

I would do Dustari boots, but i'd recognize CP Boots as rarer then Dustari Boots.

Using dex-1 makes pirate boots just ac+2

[Conqueror]

Teehee I do! Traded Bakers + rda to Kyden for Raging Dragon.

win.

[Seeya]

Originally Posted by Conqueror

Teehee I do! Traded Bakers + rda to Kyden for Raging Dragon.

win.

*wonders where that BoRD went*

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Seeya

*wonders where that BoRD went*

Nate.

[seanthien]

Originally Posted by Seeya

Which gives us reasons to start adding critical -dex gear.

Not really, no.