Bring back Classic levels and hit detection? - Page 9

unknown · #1 05-06-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

loyally? where has your loyalty been for the past 5 or more years?

well lets see, I quit for 3 of those 5 and I didnt really FULLY stop playing classic until like 2005. so from 2000-2005 I was loyal and even tried to put up with the hit detection change.

why would i waste my time with a server that wasnt going anywhere?

Remonq · #2 05-06-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

why would i waste my time with a server that wasnt going anywhere?

so instead of doing something to help like a LOYAL player would you jumped ship. gotcha

contego · #3 05-06-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

so instead of doing something to help like a LOYAL player would you jumped ship. gotcha

We didn't jump ship, we were inactive for a short time like everyone becomes.

You will probably disappear for a couple years and return one day. Doesn't mean you "jumped ship".

However when we returned, the game we once knew it's HD was drastically changed. I couldn't stay interested. But I did stay with Graal just on a server more like Classic's original HD.

unknown · #4 05-06-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

so instead of doing something to help like a LOYAL player would you jumped ship. gotcha

help how? I suggested just like a lot of old players did and storm didnt listen. I dont script or do anything of that nature so theres no point in trying to hold me to that, nice try.

contego · #5 05-06-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

loyally? where has your loyalty been for the past 5 or more years?

I have been back consistently since '05. I started in '99 and I left the community in late '03 and returned in '05 to present.

The gap was life distractions such as loss of loved ones, moving, etc. Thanks for the concern.

Forums tend to lose focus of the topic or issue at hand which is why I spend little time the past 10 years posting on them.

You're truly misinformed, please don't make false presumptions about me.

unknown · #6 05-06-2009, 08:48 PM

we dont have to believe you, test and see the results you *****.

Remonq · #7 05-06-2009, 08:51 PM

and you are misinformed if you think that changing the HD will MAGICALLY save the server

contego · #8 05-06-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

and you are misinformed if you think that changing the HD will MAGICALLY save the server

AGAIN someone who DOES not READ what I said. This is a start, this is why it isn't maintaining it's current playercount. I did NOT say it will magically bring back anything.

Look at the poll results. It's what the players want.

This is a start, then development continues to move on from there but in a better direction.

Remonq · #9 05-06-2009, 08:54 PM

i left for 2 years while i was in the military tyvm and i also noticed the change of HD but you know what? i somehow lived with it. scary huh?

contego · #10 05-06-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

i left for 2 years while i was in the military tyvm and i also noticed the change of HD but you know what? i somehow lived with it. scary huh?

No, but what is scary is you reproducing.

unknown · #11 05-06-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

i left for 2 years while i was in the military tyvm and i also noticed the change of HD but you know what? i somehow lived with it. scary huh?

great you lived with it.

know what the jews did in WW2? they lived with what was happening, and they died for it.

sometimes you cant just stand by buddy.

I just sparred on the HD, and its like sparring a lagger. plus when you get hit the image is super annoying and ruins momentum. Throws me off anyway.

-Albus · #12 05-06-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

know what the jews did in WW2? they lived with what was happening, and they died for it.

This comparison is relevant to the subject at hand.

contego · #13 05-06-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -Albus

This comparison is relevant to the subject at hand.

Eh, it was his meaning behind it. -.- I read between the lines.

Remonq · #14 05-06-2009, 08:58 PM

whatever, like i said you guys are going about this all wrong and this will get you nowhere. you need to try another approach

unknown · #15 05-06-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

whatever, like i said you guys are going about this all wrong and this will get you nowhere. you need to try another approach

another approach?
when contego is talking about establishing a team and giving his services, you think thats a bad approach? hes putting his money where his mouth is, go read previous posts.

Remonq · #16 05-06-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

go read previous posts.

no

unknown · #17 05-06-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

no

if youre not going to read previous posts of this thread, you have no place commenting on it.

like you told me "dont stick your nose where it doesnt belong"

know your facts and what has been discussed before jumping to the end of the thread and jumping on your classic bandwagon to bash us.

Remonq · #18 05-06-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

if youre not going to read previous posts of this thread, you have no place commenting on it.

like you told me "dont stick your nose where it doesnt belong"

know your facts and what has been discussed before jumping to the end of the thread and jumping on your classic bandwagon to bash us.

i'm merely commenting on the trolling you have been doing on classic

contego · #19 05-06-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonq

whatever, like i said you guys are going about this all wrong and this will get you nowhere. you need to try another approach

Fair enough, but giving your feedback would be constructive not simply bashing on others.

It's okay to disagree but you should always have an open mind and look to the majority.

dmhabe · #20 05-06-2009, 09:18 PM

Your missing the point kid.
YOU AMPUTATED A BROKEN ARM
YOU YANKED OUT A TOOTH BECAUSE IT HURT
YOU MADE IT WORSE

unknown · #21 05-06-2009, 09:21 PM

HEY DARK CLOUD, EVERY DAY YOU GET CLOSER TO DEATH, SO JUST OFF YOURSELF.

thats what it looks like youre saying. I mean, graal itself is slowly dying, are you doing anything about it? are you quitting? nope so stfu.

contego · #22 05-06-2009, 09:21 PM

DarkCloud you're making this a fight about who's right and who's wrong. This is a fight about Classic staying Classic with it's HD.

Add new content to keep players happy and attract new players. Since when has any of this happened?

And if you mention the Trading Cards as an example, so help me...

-Albus · #23 05-06-2009, 09:22 PM

To all the people that left classic:

When you best friend gets really sick, do you just go get another friend?

lolol look i can make retarded comparisons as well.

dmhabe · #24 05-06-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by -Albus

To all the people that left classic:

When you best friend gets really sick, do you just go get another friend?

lolol look i can make retarded comparisons as well.

If he has Swine-Flu yes Id leave.
If your relationship partner has Herpes would you leave? I would

Nice try at being clever

-Ramirez- · #25 05-06-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bell

In regards to hit detection. I believe I did touch on that without using those exact words. Quite a few developers have offered their help yet quickly realized they were in too deep and left. Unless you actually scripted for Classic you wouldn't understand that the movement and HD are intertwined.

This is true, but not for the reason you think. It has everything to do with the fact that the systems are a webbed mess with no structure or logic behind them. They're a collection of random elements thrown together just to make it function, and not even in the right way. Trying to manage this mess is a task that's nothing but frustrating.

unknown · #26 05-06-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ramirez-

This is true, but not for the reason you think. It has everything to do with the fact that the systems are a webbed mess with no structure or logic behind them. They're a collection of random elements thrown together just to make it function, and not even in the right way. Trying to manage this mess is a task that's nothing but frustrating.

so what I have heard from everyone against us is

"we made a mess (or people prior made a mess) so we will just leave it and add on top of the mess to make more mess"

you have to clean up (change), even if that means classic going downhill temporarily.

Remonq · #27 05-06-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

you have to clean up (change), even if that means classic going downhill temporarily.

you're just trying to kill classic traitor!

-Ramirez- · #28 05-06-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

"we made a mess (or people prior made a mess) so we will just leave it and add on top of the mess to make more mess"

This isn't just what's been heard, it's exactly what's been going on for this entire period of time.

contego · #29 05-06-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by -Albus

To all the people that left classic:

When you best friend gets really sick, do you just go get another friend?

lolol look i can make retarded comparisons as well.

Classic is not the same game at all. Same name, that's it. The GAME was sparring and PKing for me. Hense the HD system.

A better analogy for you is:

Your best friend gets really doped up on drugs and comes out like Steve-o, bless his heart.

You'll be there to help pick up the peices but you have to let them take their own course and offer help along the way.

Classic took a wrong direction because of the Development (DarkCloud and Master Storm.)

Now I'm here along with others offering to help be that friend and help, so to speak.

-Albus · #30 05-06-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by contego

Classic is not the same game at all. Same name, that's it. The GAME was sparring and PKing for me. Hense the HD system.

A better analogy for you is:

Your best friend gets really doped up on drugs and comes out like Steve-o, bless his heart.

You'll be there to help pick up the peices but you have to let them take their own course and offer help along the way.

Classic took a wrong direction because of the Development (DarkCloud and Master Storm.)

Now I'm here along with others offering to help be that friend and help, so to speak.

I understand this, but comparing this game to the holocaust is a bit much.

unknown · #31 05-06-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -Albus

I understand this, but comparing this game to the holocaust is a bit much.

my comparison was perfect to what he said.

he said he came back to graal and the HD changed yet he sat around and gave into it even though he didnt like it.

SO DID THE JEWS AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED! its a perfect analogy....

unknown · #32 05-06-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by -Albus

To all the people that left classic:

When you best friend gets really sick, do you just go get another friend?

lolol look i can make retarded comparisons as well.

thats not a great comparison, because thats your friend, not an online game.

DC, you know its the hit detection that led to a lot of people leaving.

Stop trying to debate the facts.

dmhabe · #33 05-06-2009, 09:23 PM

I agree DarkCloud, after reading 25 pages I think your the problem

DarkCloud_PK · #34 05-06-2009, 09:26 PM

Yes, I killed Classic.
It was definitely me.
I blame me for making CTF sumo.

contego · #35 05-06-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

Yes, I killed Classic.
It was definitely me.
I blame me for making CTF sumo.

CTF is an epic game. That is improvment. Well done, but keep in mind I am the one who started this poll and I don't think you're useless by any means. I am not fighting for the Staff to gtf off I am fighting for the staff to realize what we want and realize that we're all willing to help you get there. We are trying to support you. Let's work as a team DarkCloud/Master Storm.

unknown · #36 05-06-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by contego

CTF is an epic game. That is improvment. Well done, but keep in mind I am the one who started this poll and I don't think you're useless by any means. I am not fighting for the Staff to gtf off I am fighting for the staff to realize what we want and realize that we're all willing to help you get there. We are trying to support you. Let's work as a team DarkCloud/Master Storm.

yes, instead of other kids like ranger coming into this thread and not reading anything about it and then posting. youre just instigating like rufus and laura.

dmhabe · #37 05-06-2009, 09:32 PM

Enough said

DarkCloud_PK · #38 05-06-2009, 09:34 PM

how the hell am i the wrong turn in development when i just got back into the dev scene
you want the wrong turn in development? its the constant dev admins that go back and redo everything the old one made, and repeating that cycle for 4 years.

contego · #39 05-06-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

how the hell am i the wrong turn in development when i just got back into the dev scene
you want the wrong turn in development? its the constant dev admins that go back and redo everything the old one made, and repeating that cycle for 4 years.

Let me keep it simple.

HD = poo.

Look at poll results.

Provide us with content.

...you have to be open minded. This can be done.

Masah · #40 05-06-2009, 09:36 PM

Big Deal CTF?
Every servers have it now.
Improve.

View Poll Results: Classic Server should..?
be left as it is.	4	6.15%
bring back it's original levels and hit detection.	51	78.46%
bring back ONLY the original levels but leave the hit detection as is.	1	1.54%
bring back ONLY the original hit detection but leave the levels as is.	9	13.85%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll