Bring back Classic levels and hit detection?

[Crono]

I've wanted the original HD since 2006 but I think we're at a point where Classic needs some real content. I don't see how the levels will make a difference at all.

Restoring the HD now would probably require a lot of re-scripting, and I feel that it should be tweaked but more time should be spent on giving players something real to do. We shouldn't have to rely on events to have a shred of fun on a game but that's how it is.

Originally Posted by xnervNATx

bring server back in us

Why, "because you suck at it"?

[unknown]

Also, stop trying to reply with excuses about why we dislike it. We might sound like a broken record here, but its because ITS NOT CLASSIC, and its not even graal for that matter because of the hit detection. I can pk and spar just fine on it once I get in the zone, hell, I will probably take your best sparrer down, so don't use that excuse laura. Its just a stupid change which led to classics downfall in the first place. All you kids who argue it are the kids who sit around there and chat so I don't see why you'd care if the detection or the levels changed. Go use a chat client.

[BlackSolider]

So, according to you, "Classic" means using the levels from the early 2000s and never changing them at all?

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by unknown

I can name people if you want, but I dont have to since theres a poll showing it. Let me know if you want those names.

Originally Posted by contego

If I were to go out of my way to make a pointless list of names for you it would accomplish nothing. However I can say there are definitely more than 20 players from that time line that now play Era, and Zodiac. These people couldn't get into Unholy Nation or NPulse because that Graal they know is Classic, and that Classic is gone.

Go for it.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Go for it.

first off, half of btk is old and consistent players, so that sums that up.
but...even if I name people, you probably wouldn't even know them so whats the point?

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by unknown

first off, half of btk is old and consistent players, so that sums that up.
but...even if I name people, you probably wouldn't even know them so whats the point?

Hahaha okay. There's like 13 active BTK members on Graal, and the majority of those players are not old Classic players. Go on, list these players.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Hahaha okay. There's like 13 active BTK members on Graal, and the majority of those players are not old Classic players. Go on, list these players.

Me
Contego
Hardkore
Dew
Player
Gori
Hiro
KDawg
Chaos
Dunez

Those are the BTK people who are active and were old classic players

Pendragon
KIO
Deacon
Heroin
Luda
Tom Chill
Leon Chill
Unknown Mirage
Solicitus
Core
Goten
Kasper Chill
Cell Chill
DecemberChill
Neo Demigod
PH@NTOM
Lithium
KOH
Itachi
Exodus

and thats just who i could think of who i see around on UN lately.

This list doesnt include the people who I could convince on my buddylist on aim who used to play or the people who might give classic a chance once they see the numbers rise in the serverlist.

[contego]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Hahaha okay. There's like 13 active BTK members on Graal, and the majority of those players are not old Classic players. Go on, list these players.

Another constuctive post. Rufus you clueless fk. Check out the most active Global guild on Graal. Please get your ADD in check and stay focused on the subject at hand. if you want to bash on BTK then please do so on a different thread.

And that post should have been deleted. Nothing to do with this thread.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

So, according to you, "Classic" means using the levels from the early 2000s and never changing them at all?

for the most part, yes...I mean, it would be nice to fix tile errors and thats about it. I understand possibly the development of an island for playerhouses and such, but leave the older levels alone. The only development classic needs is npcs, economy, and events IMO.

[contego]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

So, according to you, "Classic" means using the levels from the early 2000s and never changing them at all?

Yes and No.

Improving things such as npcs, ganis, events, or quests to achieve items and such.

Come up with other events like Unholy Nation has Castle Wars, classic orginally wanted a guild wars area that was never finished.

These are projects that need focus.

Not the hit detection, tileset, and changing the playerworld.

[unknown]

Now that I think of it, why are you even being such a try-hard Rufus? Aren't you just one of these kids who sadly wasted the last 5 years since you started on classic? What do you even know about this game? None of you classic kids know anything, you don't even PLAY the game, you just sit and idle or chat. Dalton is a perfect example. Don't talk like you don't want the levels and HD back. Also, like contego said, look at BTK, if we brought just our people there, thats doubling your playercount, not to mention all the others we could bring possibly...

For your next post, I recommend you actually bring some logic.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by unknown

Me
Contego
Hardkore
Dew
Player
Gori
Hiro
KDawg
Chaos
Dunez

Those are the BTK people who are active and were old classic players

Most of these people are inactive or stroll on 'now and again' therefore they're not exactly what I was asking for. Out of 63 members this is hardly half of the guild either.

Originally Posted by unknown

Pendragon
KIO
Unknown Mirage
Solicitus
Cell Chill
PH@NTOM
Exodus

Inconsistent players that again, stroll on from time to time.

Originally Posted by unknown

DecemberChill
Neo Demigod

Inactive.

Originally Posted by unknown

This list doesnt include the people who I could convince on my buddylist on aim who used to play or the people who might give classic a chance once they see the numbers rise in the serverlist.

I guess that leaves us with 8 active players on your list that might actually play with changes made to the server. Though looking over this list, 5 of them already do.

Originally Posted by contego

Another constuctive post. Rufus you clueless fk. Check out the most active Global guild on Graal. Please get your ADD in check and stay focused on the subject at hand. if you want to bash on BTK then please do so on a different thread.

And that post should have been deleted. Nothing to do with this thread.

He made a pretty bold statement with no substance to it. Making this post a focal point, especially when it wasn't even directed at you, is what is removing the focus here. I don't see where I attempted to "bash" BTK; your member figures simply don't correlate with activity, which was what I was asking for.

Originally Posted by unknown

Now that I think of it, why are you even being such a try-hard Rufus? Aren't you just one of these kids who sadly wasted the last 5 years since you started on classic? What do you even know about this game? None of you classic kids know anything, you don't even PLAY the game, you just sit and idle or chat. Dalton is a perfect example. Don't talk like you don't want the levels and HD back. Also, like contego said, look at BTK, if we brought just our people there, thats doubling your playercount, not to mention all the others we could bring possibly...

For your next post, I recommend you actually bring some logic.

I'm trying oh so very hard by posing a pretty basic question. It's pretty obvious why I asked the question, and the responses I received from it pretty much support its reasoning. I am a player who played Classic for what it is, rather than leaving over safety blanket issues such as the default hit detection and old level packs.

You know nothing about the current Classic. You think that sitting around and talking is a problem limited to just our server? You're hardly "play[ing] the game" on Unholy Nation so what is different about Classic? Right, we're missing some old setting and an old hit detection, how did I not notice? You'd think it'd be new content that we needed.. y'know.. what the actual players of the current server have been asking for, but apparently that is not the case! What both you and Contigo are saying is hilariously delusional, and apparently you're the ones that needs to look into the logic behind the reality of the situation, not your worthless nostalgia.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Most of these people are inactive or stroll on 'now and again' therefore they're not exactly what I was asking for. Out of 63 members this is hardly half of the guild either.

Inconsistent players that again, stroll on from time to time.

Inactive.

I guess that leaves us with 8 active players on your list that might actually play with changes made to the server. Though looking over this list, 5 of them already do.



He made a pretty bold statement with no substance to it. Making this post a focal point, especially when it wasn't even directed at you, is what is removing the focus here. I don't see where I attempted to "bash" BTK; your member figures simply don't correlate with activity, which was what I was asking for.



I'm trying oh so very hard by posing a pretty basic question. It's pretty obvious why I asked the question, and the responses I received from it pretty much support its reasoning. I am a player who played Classic for what it is, rather than leaving over safety blanket issues such as the default hit detection and old level packs.

You know nothing about the current Classic. You think that sitting around and talking is a problem limited to just our server? You're hardly "play[ing] the game" on Unholy Nation so what is different about Classic? Right, we're missing some old setting and an old hit detection, how did I not notice? You'd think it'd be new content that we needed.. y'know.. what the actual players of the current server have been asking for, but apparently that is not the case! What both you and Contigo are saying is hilariously delusional, and apparently you're the ones that needs to look into the logic behind the reality of the situation, not your worthless nostalgia.

half the guild being, we would bring half our guild. I was just naming the people who have played classic.

Inconsistent players that again, stroll on from time to time.

Whats your definition of consistent? The BTK members I named are pretty active other than KDawg and Chaos which we know why chaos isnt active. Funny I see pendragon, KIO, Cell, PH@NTOM, Unknown Mirage, December, Neo all on this week.

I find it funny you call it a safety blanket when it is what it is, CLASSIC, which means it shouldnt have changed, especially something as essential as hit detection which no other server has done. Tell me why they changed it?

I don't care about the current classic? haven't since about 2003-04 I wonder why?

I am not saying you dont need development, but theres no need to change the levels or old quests, though like I said previously in one of my earlier posts, I would be satisfied if even just the HD was changed and not the levels.

As far as development goes, you need to improve not on levels, no server really does, its all about EVENTS, NPCS, and possibly QUESTS, as well as some scripts here and there.

Do me a favor and define consistent and classic, because you're "Delusional"

Also remind me what you know about the current classic, level14? cause you guys never leave the same levels or even pk or spar.

[BlackSolider]

*cough* 31 people online atm. Is it that great? No. Is it enough to have some fun? Sure.

[dmhabe]

Only reason Classic has 31 people on at the moment is because we are all talking about it...I logged on everyone was sitting outside the Graal Online Bank talking.