Bring back Classic levels and hit detection?

[unknown]

Also, on another note, if you're going to sit and say "well what if these people dont play classic currently" THEN GO ADVERTISE THIS THREAD ON CLASSIC AND HAVE YOUR CURRENT PLAYERS VOTE AND STOP WHINING. thanks

[unknown]

All you do EVERY TIME you post is have something NEGATIVE to say. Seriously, I am entitled to my opinion, and I don't care what you think about what I think, dig me? I am just being realistic. Come back when you actually have some constructive criticism, if you know the definition, you illiterate, immature, little girl. You obviously shouldn't be staff if you can't be literate or even give a realistic, constructive opinion about your server. All you do is get defensive for no reason. What do you even know about classic, or graal in general? You're some newbie who didn't even pay for graal, you got it from someone who quit. Looks like you owe graal some money

[BlackSolider]

Just because a current classician votes for "bringing back original levels and hd" doesn't exactly mean they want "old classic" back; perhaps they simply want new content, no matter what it is.

Keep that in mind.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by BlackSolider

Just because a current classician votes for "bringing back original levels and hd" doesn't exactly mean they want "old classic" back; perhaps they simply want new content, no matter what it is.

Keep that in mind.

Thats a good point, but I would think most people wouldn't mind some new development in certain areas/departments. Theres just a certain bit that should just be what it was IMO.

I do want to say, I understand you guys who are a bit defensive on the subject of change here, because most of us old classic players were the same way, but obviously thats why we left when they didn't leave it classic. Kind of an odd subject, never thought it would even come to this.

[DarkCloud_PK]

I like how people are talking about realistic when they are talking about suggestions such as taking half a decade to convert ourselves back to 2001 or 2004 or whatever the hell year the majority want(which is a pickle in itself, no matter which old classic you pick, it isnt going to be the 'right' one).

It was suggested to just shut the NPC server down? What will that give you, default HD with a bunch of broken custom systems.
How long do you think the globals would let us having our NPC server down intentionally? Really?

As for the people commenting on there being no sparring, no events, no hats, no etc.
There's sparring everywhere if you actually click on our server and log in.
Hell, we even have a default sparring area with a decent queue system.
Too bad half you BTK retards don't even know of the default sparring and PK areas' existence, much less acknowledge them. It wouldn't help your whole unachievable arguement, now would it? We have default HD around, try leaving town center spar and spar on classic? Oh wait, you're not going to do that because the HD arguement is just a god damned excuse to stay off classic, but it would hurt your pride too much, your roots, to say that UN is your home now, and not where you grew up(Classic), if you even played during those days, or just pretend you did.
You can wear whatever the hell hat you want, its called sethat unless you want us to develop a community based on hats like 2K1, that went down the toilet. An economy based on hats? Really?

[contego]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

I like how people are talking about realistic when they are talking about suggestions such as taking half a decade to convert ourselves back to 2001 or 2004 or whatever the hell year the majority want(which is a pickle in itself, no matter which old classic you pick, it isnt going to be the 'right' one).

It was suggested to just shut the NPC server down? What will that give you, default HD with a bunch of broken custom systems.
How long do you think the globals would let us having our NPC server down intentionally? Really?

As for the people commenting on there being no sparring, no events, no hats, no etc.
There's sparring everywhere if you actually click on our server and log in.
Hell, we even have a default sparring area with a decent queue system. Too bad half you you BTK retards don't even know of the default sparring and PK areas' existence, much less acknowledge them. It wouldn't help your whole unachievable arguement, now would it? We have default HD around, try leaving town center spar and spar on classic? Oh wait, you're not going to do that because the HD arguement is just a god damned excuse to stay off classic, but it would hurt your pride too much, your roots, to say that UN is your home now, and not where you grew up(Classic), if you even played during those days, or just pretend you did.
You can wear whatever the hell hat you want, its called sethat unless you want us to develop a community based on hats like 2K1, that went down the toilet. An economy based on hats? Really?

Nothing of relevance, and problaby should be edited. But please let's focus on the topic at hand.

DarkCloud - "Present Dev Admin" (quoting your signature on your post). When I was GM, I said it like it was and I'm not going to sugar coat it now; It's abundantly clear that the HD is a large factor of Classic's low playercount. All you need to do is take it that direction. You're not helping this situation, you and Master Storm are the people we need to convince. All the people on the poll are all fighting for the samething, it's not an attack personally on you as a person.

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by contego

Nothing of relevance, and problaby should be edited. But please let's focus on the topic at hand.

DarkCloud - "Present Dev Admin" (quoting your signature on your post). When I was GM, I said it like it was and I'm not going to sugar coat it now; It's abundantly clear that the HD is a large factor of Classic's low playercount. All you need to do is take it that direction. You're not helping this situation, you and Master Storm are the people we need to convince. All the people on the poll are all fighting for the samething, it's not an attack personally on you as a person.

There's tons of relavance I just noted, that you completely ignored.
THERE IS DEFAULT HD ON CLASSIC RIGHT NOW THIS VERY SECOND, AND NOT A SOUL USES IT.

Obviously not that big of an issue, I know what classic's issues are a hell of a lot more than you do, and its not because of the HD.

[contego]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

There's tons of relavance I just noted, that you completely ignored.
THERE IS DEFAULT HD ON CLASSIC RIGHT NOW THIS VERY SECOND, AND NOT A SOUL USES IT.

Obviously not that big of an issue, I know what classic's issues are a hell of a lot more than you do, and its not because of the HD.

DC you've got to have an open mind. -.-

Bell, please just backup the server and do like Tyhm suggests which is basically beefing up secruity.

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

It was suggested to just shut the NPC server down? What will that give you, default HD with a bunch of broken custom systems.
How long do you think the globals would let us having our NPC server down intentionally?

I was quite obviously suggesting that so you could upload the old content with less effort. The custom systems are irrelevant.

If it's best for the server, why would the globals resist?

[Bell]

It was suggested to just shut the NPC server down? What will that give you, default HD with a bunch of broken custom systems.
How long do you think the globals would let us having our NPC server down intentionally? Really?

Way to get fired and banned right quick.

[unknown]

nice comment DC, since no one even said anything about there not being a spar or pk area.

and its REALISTIC if you can do it, which you just said, IT CAN BE DONE, so what are you talking about? you're obviously someone who just doesn't want to put some work in.

Maybe if you would actually read what people say before posting and looking stupid...

I sparred in your supposed default HD room in exos place, still feels a bit odd.

As far as hats, you should have to buy them, and economy is something classic could use, and it doesn't have to just be based on hats.

To sum things up, everyone would pretty much settle for the hit detection back. Development on classic could continue, but it should continue in the direction of great quests like Thyms, with a great storyline, events of course, AN ECONOMY....whether you like it or not, it adds to a part of the game and keeps people interested and motivated to actually PLAY. So much for your comment about 2k1, since UN has a great economy and blows the rest of the servers away.

YA!

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by unknown

nice comment DC, since no one even said anything about there not being a spar or pk area.

A lot of this thread is another request from people who don't actually play classic(logging on once a year isnt playing classic), asking for all the default systems and old levels.
Because of this, we made default HD spar and PK rooms to cater to those people.

They never get used, so why bother listening to the people asking for things if they don't USE what they ASK for?

Originally Posted by unknown

and its REALISTIC if you can do it, which you just said, IT CAN BE DONE, so what are you talking about? you're obviously someone who just doesn't want to put some work in.

Is a half decade year project of bringing us BACK double that time as far as level quality and scripting capabilities go really the kind of realism we want?
It can be done, shooting yourself in the face can also be done, there's a lot of things that CAN be done, but it doesnt make it a good idea automatically.

Originally Posted by unknown

Maybe if you would actually read what people say before posting and looking stupid...

Maybe if you learn some common sense about things and cost vs benefits, maybe you wouldn't look so stupid to everyone outside of your town center spar clique, all of which whom dont have a clue about what Classic is about, because they don't play classic outside of Ares, they play UN, you are newbie UN players. You have no right to tell Classic what direction it should be going in, as you're not a Classic player.

Originally Posted by unknown

I sparred in your supposed default HD room in exos place, still feels a bit odd.

It's all default systems, ALL custom classic systems removed, let me reiterate.
It IS default. If you feel a difference, well, that's you looking for excuses.

Originally Posted by unknown

As far as hats, you should have to buy them, and economy is something classic could use, and it doesn't have to just be based on hats.

To sum things up, everyone would pretty much settle for the hit detection back. Development on classic could continue, but it should continue in the direction of great quests like Thyms, with a great storyline, events of course, AN ECONOMY....whether you like it or not, it adds to a part of the game and keeps people interested and motivated to actually PLAY. So much for your comment about 2k1, since UN has a great economy and blows the rest of the servers away.

YA!

Let's have a hat economy, a thing you can wear on your head as an economy, so much fun, it worked on 2K1 and UN amirite guys? From what I've heard, the UN hat economy blows.

[unknown]

lol whatever man. you sit here and say I'm a UN newbie, yet in my day I probably played more classic than you have your entire graal career. I started on classic, and tried to stick it out as long as possible, obviously its good I left isnt it? And if you can't take into consideration, what other players from other servers want so they will come to yours, youre a horrible staff members. cost vs benefits? wow you'd have to do some work and admit all your attempts in the past were for nothing. SOME THINGS ARE BETTER LEFT ALONE. also, you have a better idea for an economy? who cares if its something you where on your head...an economy is an economy, and what draws players, draws players. You'd be a horrible business man, stick to taking those horrible wannabe model pictures.

Also, please inform me "What Classic's about" its obviously not about being Classic, or about the players and what they want, EVEN IF THEY ARENT CURRENTLY PLAYING CLASSIC.

wow...

[DarkCloud_PK]

are you really going to be another one of those people that gives me that crap that they started since zelda online?
I really don't think you can top my over 7K hours online, so don't try to tell me about back in your day, son.

[unknown]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

are you really going to be another one of those people that gives me that crap that they started since zelda online?
I really don't think you can top my over 7K hours online, so don't try to tell me about back in your day, son.

are you really going to be another one of those people that gives me crap that just because someone plays UN they aren't worthy of an opinion on your server?
I really don't think your 7k hours are relevant, considering you always idled and never really played the game, so don't try to tell me about back in your day, dad.

P.S. if I added all my accounts, I'd probably have the same amount of hours, junior.