Bring back Classic levels and hit detection?

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by Nightmareangel

Maybe but which version would they be? I know you prefered Classic way back in the day where as I prefered Classic (GTA) circa 2002-2003. Someone's gonna get burned har har.

I do prefer "Old Main", but I'd rather have GTA over what there is now. :P
Of course, I fully support adding new content to both.
In fact, I believe it would be best to have a server that combines both editions and new content, but unfortunately it's the least likely option.

Originally Posted by Nightmareangel

Nopers

Is it technically impossible?
Can't someone "accidently" crash it and forget to turn it back up?

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Minoc

Can't someone "accidently" crash it and forget to turn it back up?

There is the ability to turn off the NPC server by saying /npcshutdown in RC.

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by Rufus

There is the ability to turn off the NPC server by saying /npcshutdown in RC.

Then I strongly recommend doing that.

[BlackSolider]

Ok one thought on the poll.

Do NOT assume because of the numbers that each of those 37 people who voted are oldies willing to come back to a "new" classic. I assume that many oldbies voted for the return, but many current classicians also voted for it as well. Not because they played the old classic levels, but simply because they aren't satisfied with current classic and are thus assuming old classic levels will automatically be better.

Stop assuming that those 37 people want "old classic" back. I'm willing to bet that a good amount of current classicians never saw old classic, but simply want new content, no matter what it is.

[maximus_asinus]

Assume that all 37 people who voted for old content will login to Classic if the old content was restored. As of right now that is a 370% increase in Classic population.

We're at a point where we're going to have to bend to one group's whim or we're going to lose it all. We're not making any progress continuing down the path we're on now so what does that tell us?

[DarkCloud_PK]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Assume that all 37 people who voted for old content will login to Classic if the old content was restored. As of right now that is a 370 PERCENT increase in Classic population.

We're at a point where we're going to have to bend to one group's whim or we're going to lose it all. We're not making any progress continuing down the path we're on now so what does that tell us?

how long would they stick around?
longer than the spikes on 2k1 and 2k lasted?
a 370 PERCENT increase for 2 weeks, how lovely.

edit: pls fix percent sign

[maximus_asinus]

Originally Posted by DarkCloud_PK

how long would they stick around?
longer than the spikes on 2k1 and 2k lasted?
a 370 PERCENT increase for 2 weeks, how lovely.

edit: pls fix percent sign

Such a pessimistic attitude. Do all staff members think along the same lines as you?

[contego]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Such a pessimistic attitude. Do all staff members think along the same lines as you?

DC is an old friend, but it's disturbing that all the people fighting the change are the current staff, esspecially the Dev Admin and Manager. This looks like a job for the globals.

[Minoc]

By the way, is there any way to completely get rid of the NPC server?

[BlackSolider]

Whether we take months/years to restore the "old classic" levels, or whether we take months/years to slowly add new content, the main problem is we don't have the development power to do either effectively.

I don't know what projects are specifically planned right now, but things still haven't gotten much better since the PWA decision, whether you agreed with it or not.

Unless a dozen or more people get together and dedicate their time this summer to deving their asses off (not 24/7, but a few hours a day maybe,) no matter what path we decide to take, nothing is going to happen.

Classic is on it's last legs right now. We need a 4th quarter comeback, and to do that, we need some leadership, which we are sorely lacking. I never played "old classic" (my first server was graal2000 when I started in 02,) nor do I know the exact plans the current staff has in mind. But unless we decide which path to take, then dedicate our time to it, classic is going to lose the small (some would say foolish) community it has left.

[HarDKoRe1234]

Bring it back

[BlackSolider]

Classic can't afford to sit around in it's current state for a year while a few people work tirelessly on such a large-scale project. We need immediate help that doesn't fizzle out in less than a month.

For a long time, GCs were able to keep the server alive simply by hosting a lot of events. That was back when we constantly had 30-40 people online, even during some weekdays. That is hardly the case right now, and thus GCs can't carry the server on their backs like they used to be able to do. Classic needs content to draw people in and keep them occupied, enabling GCs to get back to their mega-hosting ways of 06-07.

Classic would not survive a year as is waiting for this massive project to be complete. Even if we did it in chunks, new overworld levels + a quest or two a time doesn't solve all of our problems. Our staff team is far too small to work on both this project and our other issues.

[dmhabe]

44-1

[unknown]

All I know is, if you're not willing to try and make the change, no matter how difficult, you don't care enough. Of course you can't count on the playercount to just rise, but regardless, classic should be classic, even if people don't really come back. All I know is, it is definitely worth a try, and if its not worth a try, just let it die. Seriously, bury classic, I could care less at its current state. I hope the current classic players wise up and switch to UN and let it die if none of these changes go through. I really hope classic, NP, and Delt all get shutdown since they are just stealing potential players and potential staff.

As far as new dev on classic, it would be cool for a nice storyline and a nice spar arena and keep the events house and all. Maybe an island for player developed houses/material. But most of it should just be CLASSIC.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by unknown

All I know is, if you're not willing to try and make the change, no matter how difficult, you don't care enough. Of course you can't count on the playercount to just rise, but regardless, classic should be classic, even if people don't really come back. All I know is, it is definitely worth a try, and if its not worth a try, just let it die. Seriously, bury classic, I could care less at its current state. I hope the current classic players wise up and switch to UN and let it die if none of these changes go through. I really hope classic, NP, and Delt all get shutdown since they are just stealing potential players and potential staff.

As far as new dev on classic, it would be cool for a nice storyline and a nice spar arena and keep the events house and all. Maybe an island for player developed houses/material. But most of it should just be CLASSIC.

i could care less about what u think but , you already know classic will not die or quit the classic tab, and whoever dev on delt classic or NP its their choice not urs , understood?